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it's not inconsistent to repress fascism by any means necessary, unless you're a dipshit lib who believes all viewpoints are equally valid and should be tolerated no matter what
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Byolante posted:Abusing people won't encourage them to change their ways, it will just teach them to hate yours. God forbid there be consequences for advocating genocide
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Byolante posted:Abusing people won't encourage them to change their ways, it will just teach them to hate yours. oh drat so its my fault the nazi is full of hate now
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Aug 24, 2017 06:11
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just cant fuckin win with these nazis jeez
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Aug 24, 2017 06:12
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:You would think that, but the people you are arguing with are fetishtizing violence against the ever expanding "other." They obviously aren't consistent in their beliefs and only talk about punching Nazi's because that is popular right now. I'm sure once the next Woke Woman movie comes out, they will get over it and not post about violence as often as a sociopath does. Ha ha WHAT do you even realize what forum you're on, also double lmao for implying "Nazi" = "ever expanding other." Christ. Pener Kropoopkin posted:it's not inconsistent to repress fascism by any means necessary, unless you're a dipshit lib who believes all viewpoints are equally valid and should be tolerated no matter what But but how can I retain my moral superiority over anyone with a backbone?!?!
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Nazis think they're being abused because it's too hard for them to date white women.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:it's not inconsistent to repress fascism by any means necessary, unless you're a dipshit lib who believes all viewpoints are equally valid and should be tolerated no matter what Don't you see we gotta sit down and politely explain to Nazis that black people aren't actually golems shaped from clay by the perfidious Jew
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Nazis think they're victims because they're having a sliver of the violence they wish to inflict upon the already marginalized brought upon them.
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Taintrunner posted:Nazis think they're victims because they're having a sliver of the violence they wish to inflict upon the already marginalized brought upon them. how do you know it's not innocent soccer moms that want death to the jews and blacks youre hitting................ or little girls!!!!!!!!! 
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what im saying every last one of u who thinks its a short hop from hitting literal actual nazis to extermination of the non liberals can ride the slippery slope up my greasy rear end in a top hat
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Goons who fetishise righteous violence against political opponents refuse to acknowledge that "nazi" is a weasel word ITT
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the trump tutelage posted:Goons who fetishise righteous violence against political opponents refuse to acknowledge that "nazi" is a weasel word ITT shut the gently caress up, Nazi
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ahahahah weasel words i havent heard that in a long time
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the trump tutelage posted:Goons who fetishise righteous violence against political opponents refuse to acknowledge that "nazi" is a weasel word ITT yes we should be uphold how careful this thread has been treating semantics
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Aug 24, 2017 06:22
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Al! posted:ahahahah weasel words i havent heard that in a long time I used it earlier today in my epic, one-of-a-kind take down of Neo-liberal tax policy.
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get that OUT of my face posted:staying true to my word, i got an email from medium this morning urging me to read a group of articles. i didn't get past the first one, provocatively titled "10 Reasons Why Bernie Sanders Must Be Stopped." googling tells me that this is all he's written about on medium for a while and that this is his twitter bio i assume this guy is a 4 donutstar general in the neoliberal asshat army
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:You would think that, but the people you are arguing with are fetishtizing violence against the ever expanding "other." They obviously aren't consistent in their beliefs and only talk about punching Nazi's because that is popular right now. I'm sure once the next Woke Woman movie comes out, they will get over it and not post about violence as often as a sociopath does. I'm glad that you've found a safe space to jerk yourself off over feeling victimised by a creation of your mind, rather than anything being discussed in this thread.
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Tokamak posted:I'm glad that you've found a safe space to jerk yourself off over feeling victimised by a creation of your mind, rather than anything being discussed in this thread. I'm not victimized in anyway whatsoever, I'm just calling out people who wish they were so they could "bash the fash" and then everyone at the safe-space parade will start clapping. It's a high school revenge fantasy and it's embarrassing to encourage.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:I'm not victimized in anyway whatsoever, I'm just calling out people who wish they were so they could "bash the fash" and then everyone at the safe-space parade will start clapping. somebody at a "safe space parade" was killed you loving dumbass
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ppl are on to the fact that the safe space thing is 100% projection 100% of the time right
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:I'm not victimized in anyway whatsoever, I'm just calling out people who wish they were so they could "bash the fash" and then everyone at the safe-space parade will start clapping. How is it possible to be this white and comfortable, this utterly infantile, that you think people who don't like actual Nazis marching in the streets are really just still mad at jocks
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:I'm not victimized in anyway whatsoever, I'm just calling out people who wish they were so they could "bash the fash" and then everyone at the safe-space parade will start clapping. I'm not sure why you are bothered by a clapping parade to see the next woke woman movie to be honest.
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Tokamak posted:I'm not sure why you are bothered by a clapping parade to see the next woke woman movie to be honest. Turned out the women only screenings of wonder woman were illegal lol
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Crane Fist posted:How is it possible to be this white and comfortable, this utterly infantile, that you think people who don't like actual Nazis marching in the streets are really just still mad at jocks How sheltered do you have to be to think that this is a recent phenomenon? White supremacists have never stopped marching or doing events. The only difference with this recent one is that they drove in from all over the nation instead of being the poorly attended mess of 5-25 local idiots being caged off from a shitton of counterprotesters.
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how sheltered do you have to be to be alarmed that first neonazi gatherings have grown from small gatherings of 5-25 people to 100s or 1000s with many untold 1000s more supporters basically everywhere on the internet that has comments within a few short years
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and one of them tried to kill 20 people.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:It's a high school revenge fantasy and it's embarrassing to encourage. I think this is sometimes the case, but definitely not always. At least in my case, I was sort of radicalized by being directly exposed to a lot of actual "high finance" employees (investment bankers, etc) during college (as a finance major myself). What radicalized me wasn't so much a sense that these people were really terrible or anything (they were actually fun to hang out with), but more the impression that their circumstances inherently made them harmful. Like, it's almost impossible for someone to immerse themselves in that sort of environment and not become toxic to society's well being. Even people in that sort of environment who genuinely mean well lose touch with "regular people" and end up proposing solutions that wouldn't actually help. Basically, I came away from the whole experience with the general impression that rich people aren't evil caricatures, but that the mere fact of "being wealthy" fundamentally corrupts people, regardless of how good their intentions might be.
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Byolante posted:Turned out the women only screenings of wonder woman were illegal lol Illegal Wonder Woman screenings. Hmm.. interesting. What else immediately springs to mind? *writes on notepad*
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Call Me Charlie posted:How sheltered do you have to be to think that this is a recent phenomenon? White supremacists have never stopped marching or doing events. The only difference with this recent one is that they drove in from all over the nation instead of being the poorly attended mess of 5-25 local idiots being caged off from a shitton of counterprotesters. That's uh That's a really bad comeback I mean think about it for ten seconds
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Another thing to keep in mind regarding the Nazi/alt-right people is that those movements tend to have a threshold of sorts. Like, there's very little transition between "relatively trivial and uninfluential" and "a big deal." Things end up hitting a point where a bunch of more risk-averse fascist-types feel the group is big enough that they can safely participate without repercussions. For every person who is currently willing to march with the white supremacists, there are probably many more who would be willing to march if they felt the movement was bigger and they could do so without any repercussions. The same goes for violence. A lot of Nazi folks currently aren't willing to commit violence because they don't feel they could get away with it, but the moment a big enough riot broke out that they felt like they wouldn't be caught, a lot of these guys would totally be willing to do some terrible stuff. edit: Basically the point here is that you won't necessarily have the opportunity to gradually watch things become worse and step in before they get too bad. It's best to just squash this stuff before it can reach the point that more people become emboldened. Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 08:07 on Aug 24, 2017 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:and one of them tried to kill 20 people. first you stop nazis from killing people in the name of white supremacy and then what? you stop normal trump supporters from killing people? soon you're going to stop people who accidentally use homophobic slurs from killing people
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Crane Fist posted:That's uh the only difference is their participation appears to have increased 100-fold in the course of a decade geez hysteria much
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Ytlaya posted:Another thing to keep in mind regarding the Nazi/alt-right people is that those movements tend to have a threshold of sorts. Like, there's very little transition between "relatively trivial and uninfluential" and "a big deal." Things end up hitting a point where a bunch of more risk-averse fascist-types feel the group is big enough that they can safely participate without repercussions. For every person who is currently willing to march with the white supremacists, there are probably many more who would be willing to march if they felt the movement was bigger and they could do so without any repercussions. The same goes for violence. A lot of Nazi folks currently aren't willing to commit violence because they don't feel they could get away with it, but the moment a big enough riot broke out that they felt like they wouldn't be caught, a lot of these guys would totally be willing to do some terrible stuff. I want to carve this into the moon with a giant laser
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Al! posted:the only difference is their participation appears to have increased 100-fold in the course of a decade geez hysteria much I mean when you really think about it, what's the difference between 25 nazis and 300? Their basic argument is the same!
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Al! posted:how sheltered do you have to be to be alarmed that first neonazi gatherings have grown from small gatherings of 5-25 people to 100s or 1000s with many untold 1000s more supporters basically everywhere on the internet that has comments within a few short years Did you miss my point where they drove in from all over the country? This isn't anything new. quote:Matthew Hal, leader of the white supremacist group World Church Of The Creator, spoke to about 70 supporters inside a library while police officers in riot gear separated shouting groups of his supporters and (hundreds of) antiracist protesters. http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/13/us/white-supremacists-rally-in-york-pa.html quote:Neo-Nazi skinheads and anti-racist anarchists fought in the streets yesterday in this central Pennsylvania city still feeling the aftermath of deadly race riots 32 years ago. http://old.post-gazette.com/regionstate/20020113yorkriot0113p5.asp And that was the first result when I searched 'white supremacists rally' with a filter from 1996 to 2004
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oh you're right now there are more of them and they're more mobile and organized drat man, look at this cool headed voice of reason over here
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just admit you made an incredibly dumb argument and move on jfc
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for some reason I don't feel any less inclined to advocate violence against fascists and neonazis
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I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. It seems like you're saying because nazis have always been around, everything is fine and it doesn't matter their numbers are increasing and they're more likely to turn up for marches?
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Al! posted:just admit you made an incredibly dumb argument and move on jfc This should be the thread title now that fuzzyskinner stopped posting
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