infernal machines posted:

in what sense is that "support"?

The Management posted:

are you ready for a samsung galaxy note event motherfuckers?

because you're getting one! today!!

how big will the screen be?
what stupid gimmick will they add only to abandon next year??
bixby???

get hype!!!

EL BROMANCE posted:

on the other hand, what does supported actually mean in the android world. 'acknowledge it exists but nothing works'?

Blue Train posted:

I could see why you may think that, but supported status in this instance simply means you can download the factory image for it still

Blue Train posted:

I could see why you may think that, but supported status in this instance simply means you can download the factory image for it still

Blue Train posted:

I could see why you may think that, but supported status in this instance simply means you can download the factory image for it still

Endless Mike posted:

lmbo

My Linux Rig posted:

ROFL

infernal machines posted:

Stymie posted:

can't wait to see tim reimplement the same stupid gimmicks later when he gets panicked after seeing ads showing off said gimmicks

LastInLine posted:

In other Oreo news, I was just doing the same thing I do every day on my Pixel XL and listening to a little Google Play Music while I worked. When I was done I woke the phone to stop playback but the pause button was unresponsive on the app and I paused the music on the notification and swiped the notification away.

The entire phone then became unresponsive. The back and home keys did nothing but the overview button brought up split screen mode and activated Chrome beneath GPM. I dragged that down and away and pushing the overview button again allowed me to swipe away GPM. Unfortunately from that point on, every app had the half of the Chrome windown covering the bottom half of the screen. Even after I used the option to restart Nova in the settings the bottom half of the screen showed my last Chrome window with the icons and app pullup over top of it. It was present inside any app I opened.

I would've taken a screenshot but the whole image was covered in personal information, both on the desktop behind Chrome and in the Chrome window itself.

I had to restart the phone to get it to work. Kind of a far cry from where my Pixel was a week ago.

Blue Train posted:

Lol

quote:

I have a lot of other criticisms about the software beyond that bizarre failure (which, it should be noted, I haven't experienced anything like since the early Lollipop days of the Nexus 5). It just doesn't feel finished in any meaningful way.

The colored notifications are truly terrible, especially on things which change the lockscreen to cover art since the notifications themselves take their colors from that same cover art allowing them to get lost in the background. Beyond that obvious usability mistake, the visual incongruity and poor legibility of colored notifications should've been enough to see what a bad idea it was.

The auto fill providers sounds like a great idea until you realize that Chrome isn't compatible yet which means you can't use it on the web or apps which use web views. I'm not sure how such a thing is allowed to happen but there it is.

I was under the impression that notifications were supposed to be more manageable under Oreo with notification channels, dots, snoozing, etc. but to my mind they're more unwieldy and difficult to understand than they were before. I'm not even sure where half of the stuff is managed and you've got priority, dots, lights, sounds, and channels all to deal with and all, as far as I know, in separate places. For an OS which is built around acting on notifications, I feel like this is less than ideal.

The new ambient display is terrible. Why yes, definitely take away the ability to read notifications even though I explicitly said I want to be able to see all content on my lockscreen, that way it's entirely useless. Why would I want information when I could have the silhouette of an icon at a quarter of the normal size? I mean, it's not like there are multiple apps using an icon shaped like a chat bubble or anything and of course you can't use color to distinguish between similarly shaped icons.

Then of course there's still Google bullshit to deal with like randomly moving elements around like the date in the notification shade or removing the next alarm from the ambient display because gently caress you. Unlike Lollipop which was buggy and unfinished, this doesn't seem to be introducing a new style to the OS so I'm puzzled as to how so many bad decisions came to be included in it.

Blue Train posted:

It's hosed up


Also there is now a notification that tells you apps are running in the background, even if the app itself provides a notification. You can't dismiss that poo poo either so it's just always there lol

Endless Mike posted:

lol i remember google announcing colored notifications and saying that was going to be abused immediately. glad to see that come to fruition

LastInLine posted:

(lol remember being able to tweet from the notification center?)

LastInLine posted:

google just changes poo poo because its been a year and people learned where things were and how they looked so time to gently caress poo poo up

im not sure but im almost certain the lockscreen clock has changed with every android release some years its bold some years its thin some years its an all caps date some years its not and this year its a little smaller than it was before and the date is back to not being all caps but its fixed width because i guess they wanted some ＡＥＳＴＨＥＴＩＣ up in this bitch

Progressive JPEG posted:

promotions within the company are given by a committee based on "impact" and it's way easier to sell changing things for no reason or launching a new product that's worse than it's predecessor as "impactful" and promo-worthy. whether the result is successful or even necessary isn't considered. as a result you get poo poo like what you said in android, or e.g. the current years-long sequence of unnecessary chat app rewrites each more irrelevant than the last

this is also why major changes tend to be on a six month cycle

LastInLine posted:

ive got to ask then how is it that the promotion committee came to value clock size changes? like when youre in front of the career tribunal why arent results or necessity taken into account?

my absolute favorite part of this forum is learning the intracacies of the weird dysfunctions in corporate cultures

The Management posted:

the answer is that android users get bored with consistency and reliability. they prefer to see constant churn of UI changes because it makes upgrades more exciting. they think the OS is an end in and of itself, not a means for getting things done.

we forget now, but there was a time when "widgets" were considered essential components of your android desktop. clock is the only widget that wasn't completely idiotic. hence four clock android screenshots.

Progressive JPEG posted:

promotions within the company are given by a committee based on "impact" and it's way easier to sell changing things for no reason or launching a new product that's worse than it's predecessor as "impactful" and promo-worthy. whether the result is successful or even necessary isn't considered. as a result you get poo poo like what you said in android, or e.g. the current years-long sequence of unnecessary chat app rewrites each more irrelevant than the last

this is also why major changes tend to be on a six month cycle

The Management posted:

the answer is that android users get bored with consistency and reliability. they prefer to see constant churn of UI changes because it makes upgrades more exciting. they think the OS is an end in and of itself, not a means for getting things done.

we forget now, but there was a time when "widgets" were considered essential components of your android desktop. clock is the only widget that wasn't completely idiotic. hence four clock android screenshots.

Doc Block posted:

describes an android using coworker at my previous non-computer-toucher job almost perfectly. dude was a "computer whiz" type, and liked rediscovering where Microsoft had moved an obscure setting to after each update, etc.

dude thought I was computer illiterate because I didn't know a bunch of dumbass Windows power user poo poo, and was shocked to learn that I was making stupid little iOS apps in my spare time, because "I thought you had to know a lot about computers to do that stuff." like, in his mind knowing where weird windows settings are and a bunch of other computer janitor stuff was Being A Computer Genius.

glad I don't work with you anymore, brandon 🖕

The Management posted:

the answer is that android users get bored with consistency and reliability. they prefer to see constant churn of UI changes because it makes upgrades more exciting. they think the OS is an end in and of itself, not a means for getting things done.

we forget now, but there was a time when "widgets" were considered essential components of your android desktop. clock is the only widget that wasn't completely idiotic. hence four clock android screenshots.

Lutha Mahtin posted:

i've used android since 2.2

Lutha Mahtin posted:

i'll show what i'm talking about. here's the standard android OS buttons that you can access inside all apps:



the right one opens the task-switcher interface, similar to alt-tab on a computer or double-tapping the home key on iOS. middle one is the home key, which takes you back to your home screen. left one is the "back" key, which backs you out to the previous screen of your app, or like if you're in the camera app because another app launched it to take a photo, it will take you back to the first app. now let's look at samsung:



i read an article saying that samsung lets you change it so the back button is on the left, but holy crap it is so silly that google allows such a basic UI idea to be "customized" in such a silly way

Lutha Mahtin posted:

but it gives you a tiny sliver of extra screen to watch youtubes!! and allows the marketing team to list a marginally larger number for the screen size! duh

CLAM DOWN posted:

Now it's even on my loving lockscreen, eat my rear end Google