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!Klams posted:Never.... ever? Never. E: gah new page, peep this librarian. 
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!Klams posted:Oh I don't have a rulebook If it helps, the core rules are a free download: https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/40k/warhammer_40000_en.pdf
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Aug 24, 2017 13:33
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xtothez posted:If it helps, the core rules are a free download: Oh sweet, thanks!
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Aug 24, 2017 13:49
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Artum posted:Never. The barest bit of dust dangling off the end of his hand makes me think he's trying to shake the last bit of warp stuff off his pristine fingers.
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Aug 24, 2017 13:56
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Irate Tree posted:The barest bit of dust dangling off the end of his hand makes me think he's trying to shake the last bit of warp stuff off his pristine fingers. GW case foam and all these pointing fingers dont mix well.
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Aug 24, 2017 13:58
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xtothez posted:If it helps, the core rules are a free download: That's a good-looking librarian! I particularly like how you painted his eyes. Artum posted:Apparently since flier spam was fixed the new hot bullshit list at tournaments was character spam, someone ran Guilliman, celestine, draigo, a librarian, 6 culexus, 3 eversors, 2 vindicares and 5 heavy bolter sisters and abused the poo poo out of being able to screen characters with other characters. That's pretty gross. Though I will say that one of the things I like most about New(tm) Games Workshop is that we can expect things like that to get fixed.
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Aug 24, 2017 14:01
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What's the deal with models with the Fly keyword and assaults? I keep seeing people say you can't assault flyers without it but the units I've read don't have any info like that and I didn't see it in the core rules. For instance, a Heldrake has Fly and has a move stat of 30". Is there anything from preventing these first turn assaults at a threat range of 32-42"?
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Aug 24, 2017 14:16
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PierreTheMime posted:What's the deal with models with the Fly keyword and assaults? I keep seeing people say you can't assault flyers without it but the units I've read don't have any info like that and I didn't see it in the core rules. This restriction works on a per-unit basis. If you look at units like Crimson Hunters or Razorwings they have a copy-pasted 'Airborne' rule which prevents assaults like that (often alongside a -1 to hit from shooting). If the unit doesn't have that rule (like the Heldrake) it works as normal.
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Aug 24, 2017 14:20
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xtothez posted:If it helps, the core rules are a free download: We've found our unicorn, the one person who benefits from the free core rules
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Artum posted:Apparently since flier spam was fixed the new hot bullshit list at tournaments was character spam, someone ran Guilliman, celestine, draigo, a librarian, 6 culexus, 3 eversors, 2 vindicares and 5 heavy bolter sisters and abused the poo poo out of being able to screen characters with other characters. How does screening characters with characters work?
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Aug 24, 2017 14:31
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:How does screening characters with characters work? You put them in a blob with the toughest or least valuable at the front tanking shots for the rest. Presumably the assassins pop up and block off shots too.
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Aug 24, 2017 14:33
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:How does screening characters with characters work? You can only hit Culexus on a 6, and if they're the closest of the characters you have to fire everything into them.
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Aug 24, 2017 14:36
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:How does screening characters with characters work? Corrode posted:You put them in a blob with the toughest or least valuable at the front tanking shots for the rest. Presumably the assassins pop up and block off shots too. Combined with culexus being only hittable on 6s toughness 4 5 wounds 4++ and cheap.
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Aug 24, 2017 14:37
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Corrode posted:We've found our unicorn, the one person who benefits from the free core rules Almost, except it doesn't have information about command points save for some rudimentary (and misleading) stuff if you use 'power level' which seems like it could be WILDLY unfair with wargear not being factored in?
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Aug 24, 2017 14:46
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!Klams posted:Almost, except it doesn't have information about command points save for some rudimentary (and misleading) stuff if you use 'power level' which seems like it could be WILDLY unfair with wargear not being factored in? Its extremely shenanigans prone but it makes for a solid pick up game and is surprisingly consistent for 100 power being about 2k points.
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Aug 24, 2017 14:49
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Power Level's only downfall comes from extremely customizable units, like Deathwatch Vets or BA Death Company. You end up overpaying unless you throw in the kitchen sink. It seems largely fine otherwise.
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Aug 24, 2017 14:57
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Power Level's only downfall comes from extremely customizable units, like Deathwatch Vets or BA Death Company. You end up overpaying unless you throw in the kitchen sink. It seems largely fine otherwise. Also power level does not deal with summoning at all.
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Aug 24, 2017 14:59
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MasterSlowPoke posted:You can only hit Culexus on a 6, and if they're the closest of the characters you have to fire everything into them. HAHAHAHHA that's loving idiotic and I love it. Actually I love Culexis assassins and will totally be fielding a few in my REGAL SKULLS chapter whenever I get to the point where I have more than one dude painted.
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Aug 24, 2017 14:59
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Alright this is getting loving silly. Cant order a whirlwind into the local store alongside all the new merch. Cant buy one off the site because they're unavailable online. Cant buy one off ebay. Does loving no one have a whirlwind?
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Aug 24, 2017 15:02
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No, they're being repacked Also why do you want one?
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Aug 24, 2017 15:08
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Artum posted:Never. That's a sweet model, dude. The eyes and glow in the hand are amazing.
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Aug 24, 2017 15:30
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 this is actually a kinda clever way of doing a whirlwind/hunter. use your rhinos as everything for cheap.
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Aug 24, 2017 15:35
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The Glasgow store is lovely and is absolutely massive. More boxes on the walls than any store I've been to yet, unfortunately the one thing they didn't seem to have was a hellhound, which I popped in to get 
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Aug 24, 2017 15:40
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Corrode posted:No, they're being repacked Because shelling people is rad and they're a cheap unit that demands a response from my opponent. Also: GOD. WHY. WHY DIDN'T I DO THIS BEFORE. It's so god damned clean and easy to to trim down snip marks using a knife.
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Aug 24, 2017 15:41
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Corrode posted:No, they're being repacked So he can run it as a Hyperios?
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Aug 24, 2017 15:52
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I snagged some Dark Imperium characters for cheap and now I'm kinda wondering if a Crimson Fists primaris captain would have one red fist or two.
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Aug 24, 2017 16:18
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2. He's a vet by default I'd say.
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Aug 24, 2017 16:27
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https://warhammer40000.com/mission-5-countdown-destruction/ Summary: Attacker's only win condition is to get 1/3 of their PL off the map, flyers don't count for army PL purposes or for fleeing. Models within 6 inches of the attacker's board edge die at the end of turn 1, increasing by 6 inches each turn. This is such a lovely mission. It's trivial for me to make it so my stormraven is carrying 1/3 of my PL. 2 HQs, 5 terminators, and a dread are 30 PL and since the stormraven's 15 PL don't count against me, my total army PL is 88. Imperium is attacker and attacker goes first, no seizing. I can fly my stormraven to the opposite map edge, then turn 2 drop them all off and win the mission. Even if the stormraven dies they'll just walk off the board turn 2 anyway. chutche2 fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Aug 24, 2017 |
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Aug 24, 2017 16:27
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chutche2 posted:https://warhammer40000.com/mission-5-countdown-destruction/ Sure, if you're a list tailoring butthole instead of someone enjoying a unique fluffy mission from a global campaign.
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Aug 24, 2017 16:36
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Hamshot posted:Sure, if you're a list tailoring WAAC butthole instead of someone enjoying a unique fluffy mission from a global campaign. That's how I run my stormravens anyway. It's an 1850 list and in those lists I always bring a stormraven with 5 terminators, a dread, and 2 characters of some sort. It's FA/Flyer week so it encourages you to bring flyers. This is what I would be taking regardless. But running it like I normally do means I can get essentially an instant win if I choose to do so. They have to disembark first because you don't get credit if they leave while inside a flyer at least. Anyway, I'm planning on bringing 3 predators, some tac marines in a razorback, said stormraven, and a jump Lt leading 9 jump vanguard for my list this weekend. That makes everything speed 12 other than the stormraven. I'll probably put a captain or chaplain plus an apothecary in the stormraven, which means they'd be just under the PL threshold for an instant win. chutche2 fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Aug 24, 2017 |
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Aug 24, 2017 16:38
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Yeah, that's not a list tailoring issue - it's just a bad mission.
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Aug 24, 2017 16:39
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Artum posted:Combined with culexus being only hittable on 6s toughness 4 5 wounds 4++ and cheap. Goddamn, that sounds toxic as gently caress. Does Chaos even have any equivalent to that bullshit? Does any non-Imperial faction? If I want to protect the Swarmlord or a Walkrant, I have to buy almost another Hive Tyrant's worth of meat shields in Tyrant Guard. MasterSlowPoke posted:Power Level's only downfall comes from extremely customizable units, like Deathwatch Vets or BA Death Company. You end up overpaying unless you throw in the kitchen sink. It seems largely fine otherwise. My wife refuses to play with Power for the exact opposite reason: units with little customizability but strong stats/rules don't have an average point cost as high as maxed-out units like Nobz or Veterans.
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Beerdeer posted:2. He's a vet by default I'd say. Yes. Everyone 1st Company or equivalent has 2 red fists, which iirc means anyone Vet Sarge or above. All my sergeants are double red anyway to make them visually distinct.
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Proletariat Beowulf posted:Goddamn, that sounds toxic as gently caress. Does Chaos even have any equivalent to that bullshit? Does any non-Imperial faction? If I want to protect the Swarmlord or a Walkrant, I have to buy almost another Hive Tyrant's worth of meat shields in Tyrant Guard. IMO Hive Tyrants are the perfect example of the new character rule being arbitrary and dumb. The cut-off point just means you're flat out worse for going from 9 to 10 wounds. What they should have done is said that 10+ wound characters can only be screened with MONSTER or VEHICLE units instead. That way a Hive Tyrant strolling along behind a couple of Carnifexes is treated the same way as Gulliman escorted by Terminators, or Cawl in a Skitarii blob.
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Rhaegar posted:So I'm seriously considering picking up Warhammer Quest Silver Tower and the Start Collecting Tzeentch set so I can start a Tzeentch army. I see that there's a Tzeentch battletome but what about rules for Tzeentch in Warhammer 40k 8th edition? Will they eventually release a Tzeentch codex? If I was going to pick up one other set to start a Tzeentch army given the models already in Warhammer Quest and the Start Collecting set what do people recommend? More Tzaangors? Some Tzaangor Enlightened or Skyfires? More Acolytes? Maybe the Start Collecting Slaves to Darkness? Whoops, I just realised that's more of an Age of Sigmar question.
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So I'm looking for an Imperium melee beatstick to go with this sisters/inquisition army that I'm slowly building. Has anyone used Custodes, and if so how are they?
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professor_curly posted:So I'm looking for an Imperium melee beatstick to go with this sisters/inquisition army that I'm slowly building. Has anyone used Custodes, and if so how are they? I haven't used them personally but I've heard that they're scary as hell when used properly.
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I have a large Space Marines army, and I am considering expanding into Chaos by using Space Wolves models as Khorne stuff, actuakl new DG models as Nurgle stuff, and Sylvaneth/Dryads as demons, and having a Renegades/Traitor GUard detachment as backup. Just to sanity check, no one will really give me a hard time about using loyalist models as Chaos, as long as everything is properly WYSIWYG and its clear I'm not just codex-jumping for shits sake, right? I just don't want to start over and kinda want to represent the trajectory of a marine chapter falling to chaos over time, and get some use out of my army instead of starting over with two completely different ones.
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Tiger Millionaire posted:The Glasgow store is lovely and is absolutely massive. More boxes on the walls than any store I've been to yet, unfortunately the one thing they didn't seem to have was a hellhound, which I popped in to get Oh hey, I was in the Glasgow store yesterday too! The staff are also pretty decent, in comparison to the standard GW staffer. Anyway, I'm painting my first 10 ork boys. Looks like they're gonna be Goffs because gently caress painting all that clothing anything but black.
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JoshTheStampede posted:I have a large Space Marines army, and I am considering expanding into Chaos by using Space Wolves models as Khorne stuff, actuakl new DG models as Nurgle stuff, and Sylvaneth/Dryads as demons, and having a Renegades/Traitor GUard detachment as backup. Anyone who does is bad and dumb and should not be played with.
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