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I hope you all like practicing for spacetoaster's retirement ceremony
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 19:13 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 13:17 |
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If I have kids, they're getting the gently caress out of the house after they graduate highschool. I know too many 28 year olds who have been living with their parents for the last 10 years while finishing undergrad.
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 19:31 |
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Pesticide20 posted:I hope you all like practicing for spacetoaster's retirement ceremony It's gonna be yuge.
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 19:41 |
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spacetoaster posted:You should have known better than to joke with me. Dude, it's me. How often do I seriouspost in GiP?
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 19:47 |
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spacetoaster posted:?? Why? My kids have been across 3 continents and they aren't even teens yet. It's a lot more complicated when the Army isn't backing the move, passports, or anything else. That and admit that going places and doing things, while enjoyable now, was cheaper and easier before children.
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 19:55 |
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psydude posted:If I have kids, they're getting the gently caress out of the house after they graduate highschool. I know too many 28 year olds who have been living with their parents for the last 10 years while finishing undergrad. My dad gave me this so, I'll likely pass it on to them. "I'll give you food, I'll give you shelter, if you call me at 2 AM and need me to come get you, I will without consequence. But I will never lend you money." No I am not Jewish you anti-semites. But it's true. If my sons want to grow and just live with me and be apart of the family great. As soon as they decide that the free ride is too hard though, that's when they get the boot. gently caress you, earned mine.
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 19:58 |
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tastefully arranged labia posted:Dude, it's me. How often do I seriouspost in GiP? I'm home sick today. Having a cold in 90+ degree weather is really bad. Soulex posted:It's a lot more complicated when the Army isn't backing the move, passports, or anything else. That and admit that going places and doing things, while enjoyable now, was cheaper and easier before children. I wasn't talking just about Army moving. My wife is European and I have family in Asia. We try for at least one overseas family trip every year or so. It is expensive, but it's doable if you get leave during the off seasons for airline fares. Also if you go to an airport with a direct flight. I'm planning a trip to istanbul for a week and I'm fairly certain I can keep it under 5,000 bucks.
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 20:01 |
psydude posted:If I have kids, they're getting the gently caress out of the house after they graduate highschool. I know too many 28 year olds who have been living with their parents for the last 10 years while finishing undergrad. I'll let my kids stay at home until they are 22 if they are making actual effort to get a degree. If they're just loving around I don't care to pay for that. Maybe I'll let them stay if they pay rent but my rates will be steep.
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 20:02 |
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spacetoaster posted:I'm home sick today. Having a cold in 90+ degree weather is really bad. Yeah but I can't afford that? I'm just saying, given the options, travel more before kids. You can always go back somewhere but the exploration part is sooooo much easier than if it is with kids your first time. I know this because my first experience with that was someone abandoning my rear end with my wife, newborn, 2 dogs and PCS suitcases at the wrong goddamn terminal and refused to help me so I had to run everywhere on two recently operated on legs while my wife sat like a gypsy with all of these bags and I'm trying to get these dogs registered and if we hadn't had met some nice and understanding Germans, I would have missed my flight and holy poo poo would that have been the worst goddamn thing. My 1SG had recently given me like a 4/2 or some weird poo poo on my NCOER even though she wasn't in my rating chain. It went up as a 2/2. Missing a flight would have been an egregious sin. I was treated worse than someone who literally murdered someone and was on trial for it Seriously.
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 20:19 |
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The dude that abandoned me wa someone who had a habit of screwing people over. For instance, he hosed me over (naturally) but he got into a DUI accident, had surgery, no repruccusions and someone who was going to the field for a few months said 'don't stay at the barracks, stay at my place and watch over it. My car too (Escalade)." He proceeded to put a microwave next to the toilet or something, gave a copy of the house key to his girlfriend, leave used condoms all over the place, broke the bed, broke some stuff in the Escalade, and left a big steaming junk of mess requiring about two days of heavy cleaning to get rid of the trash and food stuffs. So I'm not just saying that to bitch, dude was a loving tool. He's the one that got wounded twice and made a career out of being a loving idiot who could compulsively lie and believe it.
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 20:24 |
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Soulex posted:The dude that abandoned me wa someone who had a habit of screwing people over. For instance, he hosed me over (naturally) but he got into a DUI accident, had surgery, no repruccusions and someone who was going to the field for a few months said 'don't stay at the barracks, stay at my place and watch over it. My car too (Escalade)." What is your budget for a vacation? I'm just curious. Also, I'm guessing you, wife + 2 kids?
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 20:28 |
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spacetoaster posted:What is your budget for a vacation? I'm just curious. Also, I'm guessing you, wife + 2 kids? Now 3, but all I get is disability and school BaH so budget is free. Yeah camping, we plan on that when we get less busy but then we have the two dogs...
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 20:51 |
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Soulex posted:Now 3, but all I get is disability and school BaH so budget is free. Yeah camping, we plan on that when we get less busy but then we have the two dogs... I don't know where you live, but start here: http://www.operationwearehere.com/index.html There are lots of places, other than the site I posted, that do all kinds of free/cheap stuff for for veterans.
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 21:41 |
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spacetoaster posted:I don't know where you live, but start here: http://www.operationwearehere.com/index.html This is new, and I'll give it a look. Thanks dude!
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 21:43 |
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So I been letting my ETS guys call in for PT and go gently caress off until they gi on terminal leave. Well one of my E4 was not able to take terminal because the 3 months I let him take care of his transition, he didn't do anything. His ETS day is next week and he still haven't empty his locker out of CIF to start cleaning it. And now he wants someone to escort him around all day because he has no car or a license. What the gently caress? That guy is going to be homeless as gently caress. How do you gently caress up clearing and waste all your terminal leave? How are you such a failure that you're 23 and can't drive?
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 22:32 |
Give him an article 15 and extend his ETS until he is done with his extra duty. But be all father-like and say "I'm very disappointed in you. Use this time organizing these rocks to think about what you've done and what you could've done different."
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 22:35 |
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Kaliber posted:So I been letting my ETS guys call in for PT and go gently caress off until they gi on terminal leave. Well one of my E4 was not able to take terminal because the 3 months I let him take care of his transition, he didn't do anything. His ETS day is next week and he still haven't empty his locker out of CIF to start cleaning it. And now he wants someone to escort him around all day because he has no car or a license. Sounds like that young man's leadership failed him. Seriously. Get him to re-enlist for a PCS somewhere else.
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 22:36 |
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Kaliber posted:So I been letting my ETS guys call in for PT and go gently caress off until they gi on terminal leave. Well one of my E4 was not able to take terminal because the 3 months I let him take care of his transition, he didn't do anything. His ETS day is next week and he still haven't empty his locker out of CIF to start cleaning it. And now he wants someone to escort him around all day because he has no car or a license. Sounds like he needed more engaged leadership.
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 22:36 |
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I inherited about 45 ETS/PCS guys from all the platoons before our transition plus 5 art 15 chap dudes so it's been a pain in the rear end to keep track of everyone. This dude is 15% over body fat, his old PSG has been forging his ABC paperwork and apparently he hasn't passed an APFT in over a year either so there's no chance in hell he'll be able to reenlist. The only reason why we let that slide, is because by the time his old PSG left was because he was 90 days out from terminal leave and it was decided that it was easier to just let him get out then let that poo poo drag on with a chapter. But I'm about to make one of my three NCOs escort him everywhere. I got one NCO who is about to get the boot for a DUI/crashing into a church, another who has an ankle bracelet and has to meet his PO weekly for his fast and furious race + car crash, and my only squared away one who's transitioning out next week and able to drive. Sucks to be the squared away one who never gets in trouble.
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 22:55 |
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Kaliber posted:I inherited about 45 ETS/PCS guys from all the platoons before our transition plus 5 art 15 chap dudes so it's been a pain in the rear end to keep track of everyone. This dude is 15% over body fat, his old PSG has been forging his ABC paperwork and apparently he hasn't passed an APFT in over a year either so there's no chance in hell he'll be able to reenlist. The only reason why we let that slide, is because by the time his old PSG left was because he was 90 days out from terminal leave and it was decided that it was easier to just let him get out then let that poo poo drag on with a chapter. I got stuck on a similar "mission". I had my clusterfuck of a E4 outprocessed of the Army if 2.5 days. You just have to plan the route and have a stack of statements of charged presigned.
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 23:42 |
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The worst has been the PCS/ETS awards. I made sure the 15 soldiers from my old PLT was good to go and about 90% of them were approved within the first two weeks. I just took this PLT over about a month ago and went on leave for 2 weeks and before I left, I found out about 2/3 of the soldiers sent to me had no awards written, there was no rough drafts, none of them had levy briefs done, or was even prepared for it their PCS or know what to do. So now it's been an uphill battle to get everything done because the majority of them are leaving mid Sept. It doesn't help that the division made us do all our team, sqd, plt, company training, NTC, support National Guard and the other BDE for their NTC rotation, just to come back and disband 3 months later. We literally had no time to prep for losing every goddamn 11B at once. The best part of all this is, the first people to leave were the NCOs. So for every 20 e1 to e4 running around, there's one NCO. The BDE as a whole been sucking major dick with discipline problems due to this. Coke, weed, guns, alcohol problems has been ridiculous the last 2-3 months. Kaliber fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Aug 24, 2017 |
# ? Aug 23, 2017 23:53 |
We had a platoon of chapters. Not ETS/PCS. Those guys stayed in their platoons. But after deployment we had so many drug busts and DUIs that our HQ platoon became the chapter platoon. Those fuckers showed up to first formation and bounced. Never did details (and if they did, everyone was doing the detail). Never did PT. Never really did poo poo. The only thing they did was pull CQ runner more than the other platoons. You know how people get married to get out of the barracks? That's what that platoon was for drug use.
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# ? Aug 23, 2017 23:58 |
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I don't get the point of ETS awards. They're quitting the Army early, why the gently caress would they care about getting one more ARCOM that they can't display?
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 00:46 |
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psydude posted:I don't get the point of ETS awards. It varies, IMO. Most of the time it's just demonstrating that your leadership isn't so lazy or angry at you that they're willing to spend like 30 minutes writing up the award, and then 2 minutes fixing the corrections. On some rare occasions, it's been a chance for me to look at someone who got hosed out of a deserving award for [dumb reason here] and fix it as they leave service. For one guy, he knew full well it meant nothing at all for job prospects, but he and his spouse also knew he'd been put in for a higher award like 4 times, but every time after the first "nope" from bigwigs, his company leadership wussed out or were too lazy to edit their writing. I say this not to say I'm cool and good, but to say how easy it not just ignore people: I wrote like a 2 paragraph letter that took about 10 minutes that said essentially "if this award isn't good enough, yell at me for being a lovely writer, don't punish him, with his multiple combat tours and zero black marks on his record." Award made it through at that point! He still knew it didn't mean much for jobs and such, but his spouse, who I didn't even really know all that well, was crying just because someone finally acknowledged him. mlmp08 fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Aug 24, 2017 |
# ? Aug 24, 2017 01:03 |
I didn't get an award, but I did get a plaque immortalizing the time I told a shitbag NCO to gently caress off cause he wanted me to make everyone coffee. I threw it in the garbage on my way out along with my Class A's and everything else I didn't turn in. gently caress you Army
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 03:05 |
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Kaliber posted:I inherited about 45 ETS/PCS guys from all the platoons before our transition plus 5 art 15 chap dudes so it's been a pain in the rear end to keep track of everyone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVwFADi4Y38
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 03:09 |
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Relevant https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/young-chinese-are-too-fat-and-masturbate-too-much-to-pass-army-fitness-tests-a3617881.html
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 18:24 |
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Soulex posted:Relevant https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/young-chinese-are-too-fat-and-masturbate-too-much-to-pass-army-fitness-tests-a3617881.html We've been suffering some very real issues with bone density in new recruits.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 18:27 |
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spacetoaster posted:We've been suffering some very real issues with bone density in new recruits. I had a company commander whose brother was a CO at Jackson and said the injury rate for new recruits was insane. They were getting kids who had never really done any sort of intense physical activity who were breaking within a couple of weeks.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 18:58 |
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I remember there being quite a few brokedicks at Knox in 2010. At least a couple of them were hosed up enough to get straight-up medded out, which is pretty nuts that early on. Drink your Ovaltine, goddam.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 19:10 |
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Yeah. At my first unit, I had three trainees assigned to me who came back completely broken from basic and had to be med-boarded out (in the Army Reserve you're assigned to your unit before you ship to basic). One had a spiral fracture in his leg. They all had to show up to drill for several months on crutches before the paperwork finally went through. Kind of sucks to be 18 and basically never able to walk correctly again because of a few weeks of working out. On the other hand, I guess they were all going to get free money for life, if that's any consolation.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 19:16 |
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psydude posted:I had a company commander whose brother was a CO at Jackson and said the injury rate for new recruits was insane. They were getting kids who had never really done any sort of intense physical activity who were breaking within a couple of weeks. It's been getting worse and worse my entire career.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 19:17 |
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And then add to bone density issues the motivation to hide injuries so they can get the gently caress out of basic. So they're sometimes real good and jacked up by the time they hit AIT or hide it in AIT and then hit their first assignment and instantly are on crutches.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 19:32 |
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Only idiots would not hide their injury in basic. "Rest" is going to be locked in a room for months with no books, outside connection, freedom, or sense of self worth, and being constantly yelled at.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 19:34 |
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I dunno getting med boarded out and going home isn't so idiotic.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 19:36 |
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Vahakyla posted:Only idiots would not hide their injury in basic. "Rest" is going to be locked in a room for months with no books, outside connection, freedom, or sense of self worth, and being constantly yelled at. Is that actually happening? Do I need to call dad?
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 19:40 |
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spacetoaster posted:Is that actually happening? Do I need to call dad? I hope you call your IG dad Iggy Pop
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 19:42 |
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Vahakyla posted:Only idiots would not hide their injury in basic. "Rest" is going to be locked in a room for months with no books, outside connection, freedom, or sense of self worth, and being constantly yelled at. No but being recycled for missing a mandatory event is reason enough.
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TL relevant as always.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 21:21 |