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Serf
May 5, 2011


Al! posted:

you mean you know people who say that to make long held beliefs more palatable to you

you never can tell, but there are dudes i know who seemed like relatively normal libs, but late 2014~ blm/gamergate began the process of breaking their brains to the point where now they're all about pepes and poo poo

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WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

the trump tutelage posted:

You're aware that other posters in this thread have said that 'tear gas should be the least of their worries' wrt Trump supporters, right? Or that you're guilty by association if actual nazis crash your protest. There's good reason to be incredulous.

I can't speak for other posters, posting in a thread doesn't mean I agree with every single other person posting in it, I can only speak for myself.

Don't put words in my mouth, I did not say CMC should be punched for any reason.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Serf posted:

you never can tell, but there are dudes i know who seemed like relatively normal libs, but late 2014~ blm/gamergate began the process of breaking their brains to the point where now they're all about pepes and poo poo

i think you have do bring a lot of baggage into either of those things for them to drive you nuts

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
Youll notice the kind of idiot who thinks google violates their free speech would also not advocate for a nationalization of it because that's the only way for it to be compelled to respect free speech.

Using them to attack the right is just letting the capitalists sell the rope with which to hang them.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

WampaLord posted:

I can't speak for other posters, posting in a thread doesn't mean I agree with every single other person posting in it, I can only speak for myself.

Don't put words in my mouth, I did not say CMC should be punched for any reason.

I didn't say that you did, but you did say he wasn't called a nazi, which is maybe technically true but there are posters here who'd say he deserves it nonetheless because he's close enough. That's why the nazi label is a weasel word and a flimsy pretext for violence when the perspective extends beyond Charlottesville.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

the trump tutelage posted:

I didn't say that you did, but you did say he wasn't called a nazi, which is maybe technically true but there are posters here who'd say he deserves it nonetheless because he's close enough. That's why the nazi label is a weasel word and a flimsy pretext for violence when the perspective extends beyond Charlottesville.

Again, I can't speak for other posters, you're going to have to ask them what their opinion is.

It's not a weasel word, I'm exclusively using it to refer to the people who marched with Nazis flags and chanted Nazi slogans and did Nazi salutes. I'm not referring to everyone slightly aligned with the right as a Nazi, stop projecting that onto me. All I'm saying is that people who are aligned with the right need to wake the gently caress up and realize that their side has been encouraging this sort of thing and that maybe it should spark some self awareness about who you've decided to side with.

Telling me that "other people have" is pointless. You can always find any idiot saying anything, engage with my argument if you want to talk to me.

"maybe technically true" loving lmao

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
its almost as if the guy youre arguing wants to blur the lines between nazis and ordinary people

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Al! posted:

its almost as if the guy youre arguing wants to blur the lines between nazis and ordinary people

Look, I get that I'm probably not going to change any minds in here, since 99% of people are cool and good enough to go "gently caress Nazis!" but then you get the 1% of people who go "welllllll..." and it's loving frustrating as poo poo.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
Notice how the aclu would rather defend nazis than hip hop concerts.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
Guys everyone knows who we're talking about when we talk about punching Nazis *sucker punches a woman wearing a parody MAGA hat*

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Call Me Charlie posted:

Implying that I sided with the nazis by voting for Trump

you sided with the nazis by voting for Trump, idiot

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

the trump tutelage posted:

Guys everyone knows who we're talking about when we talk about punching Nazis *sucker punches a woman wearing a parody MAGA hat*

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

GuYs EvEryOnE kNoWs WhO wE'rE tAlKiNg aBoUt WhEn We TaLk AbOuT pUnChInG nAzIs *SuCkeR pUnChEs A wOmAn WeArInG a PaRoDy MAGA hat*

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

trump tutelage is incredibly incensed that anybody would want to hurt him for defending Nazis, or even *sniff* :qq: call him a Nazi :qq:

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

I spent a lot of time and effort making that avatar to go with my fantasy novel series reference username tyvm.

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

I want to punch him for an entirely different set of reasons

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
Do you get bonus points if you lose for being on 'the moral high ground' or something?

call to action
Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
When you think about it, one racist murderer is sort of like a nationalized campaign of mechanistic terror, killing millions

the trump tutelage posted:

Actually sir "nazi" can refer to everyone from literal white supremacist neonazis to free speech absolutists depending on how directly you are challenging the parameters of nazi punching in the current political climate. It's a new paradigm!!

Anyone eating at Chick-Fil-A is a homophobe by association, I say light cars at the drive thru on fire

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
the entirety of national socialism lept athena-like fully formed from hitler's brow in 1939.

call to action
Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Everyone to my right is a nazi, everyone to my left is a tankie

Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

by Smythe

WampaLord posted:

That's not what I was doing. Also, literally no one wants you to love Hillary except DNC centrist hacks like JeffersonClay.

Don't let your Trump vote define you, there is still good in your heart, you just have to not quadruple down on "Oh yea? Call me a nazi, huh? Well I'll vote Republican double harder next time!" when no one called you a Nazi.

You realize you're the one who brought up the fact I voted for Trump and you did that as a way to discredit my argument, right?

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

trump tutelage is incredibly incensed that anybody would want to hurt him for defending Nazis, or even *sniff* :qq: call him a Nazi :qq:

the guy who's not a nazi doesn't want to get lumped in with them by a group of users that want to bash the fash, color me shocked

call to action
Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Not a nazi, eh? Sounds like something a nazi would say

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Byolante posted:

Laura K Dale wrote a series of 4? last week on harassment on VOD and streaming platforms

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2017/08/15/how-those-most-affected-feel-about-twitchs-lax-moderation

Her last was an interview with Totalbiscuit who has an interesting viewpoint as being seen by the outrage warrior types as a alt-right loony for making some illadvised comments about consumer advocacy during the gamergate idiocy then more recently throwing an 8chan troll out of a convention for asking 'are traps gay' making him a target for the pepe brigade.

Sarkeesian tweeted out

https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/897886510409687041

Which led to her followers deluging abuse on Dale and causing her to post this

https://archive.fo/qsJJf/e880abcb04650ea9d7819108591781c2dac46e4f

then delete her posts and hide her twitter for a few days while she dealt with the shitstorm of getting doxxed and harassed.

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2017/08/17/on-our-totalbiscuit-article

The editor elected to say the Journalist was wrong for writing the story and appologised to the people harassing her.

https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/898208422327443456

Totalbiscuit did what he always does then dusted off his old law degree and suggested he will sue Kotaku UK for libel

edit: its worth noting the widely recognised 'start' of gamergate was the 27th

Has anyone posted the TOTALBISCUT I AM SMART I HAVE LAW DEGREE ATHEISM post yet I can't find it

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
im beginning to think these alt lite guys posting itt are not arguing in good faith

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

I'm not a Nazi, I just don't think it's good to resist them in any way.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

passionate dongs posted:

yes we should be uphold how careful this thread has been treating semantics

are you anti-semantic?

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Call Me Charlie posted:

You realize you're the one who brought up the fact I voted for Trump and you did that as a way to discredit my argument, right?

it's a pretty good way to do that

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Call Me Charlie posted:

You realize you're the one who brought up the fact I voted for Trump and you did that as a way to discredit my argument, right?


the guy who's not a nazi doesn't want to get lumped in with them by a group of users that want to bash the fash, color me shocked

holy lol if you voted for trump you are a loving moron of the highest order.


I understand not voting for voting 3rd party but actually voting for trump means your brain has holes

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Call Me Charlie posted:

You realize you're the one who brought up the fact I voted for Trump and you did that as a way to discredit my argument, right?

You reAlIze yOu'rE ThE onE wHo bRougHt uP ThE faCt I vOteD FoR TRuMp AnD yoU Did thAt As a wAy tO diScRediT My aRguMenT, rIghT?

Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

by Smythe

Venom Snake posted:

holy lol if you voted for trump you are a loving moron of the highest order.


I understand not voting for voting 3rd party but actually voting for trump means your brain has holes

I voted third party in 2012 (go rocky anderson)

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Call Me Charlie posted:

I voted third party in 2012 (go rocky anderson)

Yeah but if you seriously voted Trump what in the world is wrong with you? I'm honestly asking what drove you to to think it would be anything but a total shitshow

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE
guy who voted for trump is also deathly scared of being called a nazi just like the other /pol/ peeps in here... hmm :thunk:

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I'm not a Nazi, I just don't think it's good to resist them in any way.

I'm not a Nazi, I just think we should let them march on the public space unopposed while we all stay home and enjoy luxury cuisine.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
surely, the democrats are going to protect us from white nationalists lol

Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

by Smythe

Venom Snake posted:

Yeah but if you seriously voted Trump what in the world is wrong with you? I'm honestly asking what drove you to to think it would be anything but a total shitshow

If you're honestly curious, have at it.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3816838&pagenumber=88&perpage=40#post472057415
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3816838&pagenumber=88&perpage=40#post472057878
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3798386&pagenumber=81&perpage=40#post472920849
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3816838&pagenumber=217&perpage=40#post474009323

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

Nice try but I'm not reading even more of your posts

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Ardennes posted:

In your own words, what ultimately pushed you to vote the way you did? Was it primarily free trade?

Call Me Charlie posted:

Free trade and infrastructure. The possibility of getting those two (and potentially changing Republican dogma regarding those subjects) was enough to make me gamble on Trump over going third party again.

loving :laffo:

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

Punching a nazi, saying nazis are bad: will lead to an oppressive authoritarian regime
Murdering political enemies, idolizing an oppressive authoritarian regime: Eh, nothing will come of it

Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

by Smythe

Remember this?

Call Me Charlie mocking you posted:

I hope you nazi fucks are ready to fight and die in Iran. THIS IS NO LAUGHING MATTER

zen death robot posted:

Same but unironic and specifically you

lol

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WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

lol nice meltdown

:byodood: "You said you wanted me to die after I said I wanted all of you to die!"

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