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In my case, lightning is just my best element. Figured I'd use it as a starting point to gauge the challenge level.
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These were my quick boss notes/suggestions from my final Magicite Preparation guide:I posted:
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From what I've read, Sea Lion and Hydra are also the 'simplest' in that they are basically no frills damage blitzes, outside of their standard resistance-lowering attacks. Sea Lion does have a Water attack in Tsunami, but it actually doesn't hurt that much unless you're slapping Gigas Armlets on everyone, so it's just weathering lots of Ice damage and the occasional nasty Savage Wings. Hydra is also pretty much pure Thunder with some Gravity thrown in the mix. While I wouldn't call them super simple, you won't have to deal with blinks or stoneskins or form changing or status effects like the other bosses.
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Aug 25, 2017 01:57
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HPanda posted:Ugh, Bismark. I've been trying this one today but haven't succeeded yet. I know I must have the pieces, but it has yet to come together. There, mastered it in 49 seconds. Good enough. Final team was Lightning (USB), Garnet (Trial by Lightning BSB), Kain (BSB), Ramza (Shout and Tailwind), and Rosa (USB). Nothing special for strategy, just boosting Lightning up as well as I could, using Garnet as a secondary healer just spamming her Command 1, Getting Kain into his BSB with Lightning Dive as soon as I could, Shouting with Ramza, and using Rosa's USB when it came up. Only casualty was Garnet at about the midpoint. That damage output is not messing around.
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Aug 25, 2017 02:00
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The good news is that Bismarck is one of the two worst bosses of the set (the other being Golem). If you can handle Bismarck's offenses, most of the other Magicite bosses should be easier to handle, unless you get unlucky with Paralysis/Interrupt from Liquid Flame/Golem. I'll probably go after Fenrir or Bismarck next. Fenrir's easier and I somehow have more options for that fight (Vivi/Serah BSBs for magic, Squall OSB for physical, and Laguna's Imperil), but my Lightning team is maybe a bit more cohesive.
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Aug 25, 2017 02:13
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Thanks for the pull advice earlier. I decided to do one pull of banner 1 and got Curilla's USB.and Shantotto's SSB. Looks like the USB is a decent Shout clone, so it'll be nice to not have to worry about that! I really could just use a good healer soul break, now.
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Aug 25, 2017 02:21
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Got Aphmau's USB. Instant medica, hastega, and party instacast? Hell yeah. Also Curilla's BSB and SSB, and Zeid's BSB. Pretty good pull I'd say.
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Aug 25, 2017 02:31
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Actually I just really took a look at the second banner. Anyone have any comments on Ayame? I would love another Ice DPS to pair with Fran and Reks to a lesser extent. Then again, it's probably still best to pull a couple of times on the Bartz banner or the superfests and save for a month 
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Aug 25, 2017 02:39
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Bismarck improved to 45.15, which is good enough for now. Lightning's BSB2 is capping, which means I really should be using her USB for 2 more hits, but I'm not because I didn't realize that until after I killed him a second time.
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Aug 25, 2017 02:51
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ceaselessfuture posted:Actually I just really took a look at the second banner. Anyone have any comments on Ayame? I would love another Ice DPS to pair with Fran and Reks to a lesser extent. She's probably the second best physical Ice DPS (after Squall). You could do far worse than her.
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ceaselessfuture posted:Actually I just really took a look at the second banner. Anyone have any comments on Ayame? I would love another Ice DPS to pair with Fran and Reks to a lesser extent. Ayame's BSB is the real stand out. Squall BSB2 exists so it's not the best Ice DPS, but it's still amazing. She does self-buff a lot better then Squall can with her BSB Command 2 and Hailstorm access. It's a shame her Dives are more Samurai focused rather then Ice focused since she loses out on dualcasting Snowspell Strike. I'm still gonna vote for saving instead of pulling unless you need XI synergy for the Seeker/Dark Dragon Torment CM.
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Aug 25, 2017 03:02
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Looks like both BSBs are on the 30th banners too, so I guess that's settled!
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So I did 3 pulls so far on FF15 banner 2/11: Noctis BSB/SSB 1/11: Gladiolus SSB 3/11: Iris BSB, Gladiolus BSB, Iris SSB So....Not a terrible round of pulls to get everyone's BSB....but it would have been cool to get the bsbs + LMRs Would be nice to doublecast noctis combat and healing combat... That being said, aside from that the only things I'm now missing on the banner is Noctis OSB and Glad's OSB, which aren't as exciting.
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ApplesandOranges posted:The good news is that Bismarck is one of the two worst bosses of the set (the other being Golem). If you can handle Bismarck's offenses, most of the other Magicite bosses should be easier to handle, unless you get unlucky with Paralysis/Interrupt from Liquid Flame/Golem. I had the opposite experience, I got Bismarck down in under a minute but I can't even get Fenrir to 50%, my ice options are trash and he hits really hard, and going physical is super annoying because of the blinks always coming at the worst possible time. Hydra just blitzed me with so much AoE that even with two healers, my timing was a little off and he burned down one of my DPS characters, which was pretty much the end of that.
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Stirdog posted:Is there a reason everyone is going after Bismark first? I'm probably going to try Golem first, or maybe second after Fenrir, since I have Cloud's BSB2+USB, Zack's BSB+CSB, Alphinaud's BSB, and Fujin's BSB, so I can do a metric fuckload of wind damage... after I get some SB gauges built up. Downside is I still need to bring someone like OK for hastega, but he can pull support duty to backup y'shtola if needed, leaving me with Cloud/Zack and either Alphinaud or Fuijin for wind damage dealing.
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pichupal posted:Ayame's BSB is the real stand out. Squall BSB2 exists so it's not the best Ice DPS, but it's still amazing. She does self-buff a lot better then Squall can with her BSB Command 2 and Hailstorm access. It's a shame her Dives are more Samurai focused rather then Ice focused since she loses out on dualcasting Snowspell Strike. The XI banners are still worth considering for Magicite options too; Curilla's USB is a great stacking buff and provides Radiant Shield, Aphmau's USB is arguably in the top tier of healer USBs out there, and her BSB is an okay workhorse that gels well in a Lightning team. Only issue is that Curilla is a bit of a 'meh' character and Zeid isn't really anybody to write home about outside of being a decent Dark DPS (and there are better Dark banners to come). Stirdog posted:Is there a reason everyone is going after Bismark first? I went after Sealion, but that's because my Fire team is far and away my best set.
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Aug 25, 2017 03:30
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Someone on Reddit fell for the FF11 "Lucky" trap banner.
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Well, after several tries I managed to get Fenrir down in 51 seconds. OK (VoF, Affliction Break/Haste) Rosa (USB, Curaja/Protect) Rinoa (Ice-Chain, Valigarmanda/Abyssal Shards) Edea (BSB, Chain-Blizaga/Memento Mori) Laguna (Imperil SSB, Lifesiphon/Icicle Shot) I was still pretty heavily at the mercy of RNG for nobody to get focused and for Rosa to take enough hits to keep the SB flowing. Not sure how the hell I'm supposed to shave 21 seconds off that. Takes me nearly that long to build meter and get the ball rolling.
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My elemental coverage is pretty weak, but it seems like Refia and Galuf can punch a hole in Sealion pretty reliably. Are there any guides/comments regarding the actual magicites themselves? On a first glance, they seem pretty elementally narrow and geared towards just doing more magicite stuff. How good are these in other contents, how high are the bonuses to stats these grant?
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Attestant posted:My elemental coverage is pretty weak, but it seems like Refia and Galuf can punch a hole in Sealion pretty reliably. A long time ago someone posted a handy guide about this, but I have no idea where it came from and now I can't find it. It kinda seems like 1 and 2 star magicites are not really worth spending arcana on, and I know everyone recommends Enkidu and Mom Bomb for being useful in a lot of content. Other than that it mostly seems like really tiny elemental damage boosts / resistances, which I mean I'll take it, but I doubt they make a huge impact. I haven't seen it all yet so there could be some more cool stuff. I do know that using a lvl 50 Bismarck magicite in a battle is super disappointing, though. His attacks deal like 300 damage lol. I dunno if that ramps up hardcore as you break their levels but so far it's not even worth the extra time the animations take, even on squishier bosses.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:A long time ago someone posted a handy guide about this, but I have no idea where it came from and now I can't find it. It kinda seems like 1 and 2 star magicites are not really worth spending arcana on, and I know everyone recommends Enkidu and Mom Bomb for being useful in a lot of content. Other than that it mostly seems like really tiny elemental damage boosts / resistances, which I mean I'll take it, but I doubt they make a huge impact. I haven't seen it all yet so there could be some more cool stuff. Well, I mean, I'd use Bismark because of the instant Fire blink but thats just me, anything else he wants to do is on him. You wanna try telling a whale he can't splash around?
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BGrifter posted:Someone on Reddit fell for the FF11 "Lucky" trap banner. Haha gently caress what a punch to the dick/vagina
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the magicite will do pretty respectable damage when you have a stable of high-level ones (like 80-99). Remember, the stats used to cast their soul breaks are primarily based on the main magicite, but also augmented by all the sub magicite. By high levels, they can often do 9999x4 AoE, which ain't bad, especially with Bismark and Liquid Flame, which are instant cast. But yeah, other than Enkidu they're kinda niche, but the imperil ones aren't bad if you've got an elemental team going (and the game sort of pushes you in that direction with a lot of high-level bosses resisting every element but one).
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BGrifter posted:Someone on Reddit fell for the FF11 "Lucky" trap banner. Haha, isn't that one of the very few SBs that requires 2 gauge bars per use, too?
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Bismarck is survivable with water resist trinkets to the point I can solo heal it. My vanille is pretty much decked out with full legend dive and bsb/usb though.
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These magicite dungeons are really letting me know how much my elemental gear sucks. I managed lightning since that's my current best element, but I have yet to manage any of the others. It seems that a lot of my elemental stuff is getting pretty old. It would be really nice to have those elemental banners right about now.
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Snazzy Frocks posted:Bismarck is survivable with water resist trinkets to the point I can solo heal it. My vanille is pretty much decked out with full legend dive and bsb/usb though. Having managed to beat Bismark, I'll likely be able to solo-heal it soonish, I'd wager. I do like the sort of odd progression magicite brings.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Haha, isn't that one of the very few SBs that requires 2 gauge bars per use, too? Yes, yes it is. The biggest gently caress you pull.
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Since I have no water SBs the Bismarck clear doesn't ever lead me to beat the fire boss. A new target is needed. I think I can do the ice magicite after preparing. Steiner BSB Terra OSB (and BSB but probably not worth it) Ysh OK BSB Ramza USB Something like that with either OK or Ramza moonlighting as an Entruster while keeping their own buff up. Steiner is 81 and Terra is 84 so there's some work to be done. At least they have partial 4* dives. Meanwhile I'll keep farming the great white whale.
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Mastered Fenrir, Sea Lion, and Golem so far. Biggest two takeaways for me have been that ninja magic is real good, and radiant shield is real good. Edge using 3star ninja magic was beating out chain firagas, and his gusts were outdoing alphinaud's meltdowns on golem. Lvl 76 alph could have earned his spot just using deployment tactics then defending, I'll probably just have him carry backup cures from now on. When bosses have 20k defense and resistance, using things to get around it is really good. I'd like to get first time clears on them all to collect all those crystals and start picking magicite to level, but I still have zero water sbs, so that one may have to wait. Unless I can get away with honing up multiple copies of the 3star water ninja, which is looking like it might just work. Also, equipped magicite gets xp from any battle you do, so make sure to throw something on even if it's not super relevant.
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Been farming Fenrir with my ice squad 99 Squall, fully dived, BSB2, Snowspell Strike/Blizzara Strike (the latter is never used except in case of being short a little bit on SB) 99 Ramza, Shout/USB, Full Break, Lifesiphon (FB sucks here but it IS an extra 300+ dmg per snowspell strike, and when Squall loves triplecasting it, it adds up.) 80 Snow, BSB, Gaia's Cross, Lifesiphon (GC doesn't really do much here but it does make him eat the Bites, and then Masterful Mercenary RM gives me a solid counter) 99 Vanille, BSB, Renewing Cure, Curada. 99 Y'sh BSB Curaja Protectga (Wrathspam is fun, but two healers makes it a bit overkill.) Three kills in...three copies of Fenrir. Guess I'll have one beastly little puppy instead of my bro Enkidu just yet.
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I don't have lightning USB or bsb2, nor do I have tgc osb. Also lack amazing healing usbs (only relm's), edge ssb, and ok bsb. I DO have the following lightning options: rapha bsb Ashe bsb Lightning ssb2 (en-lightning) and OSB Kain bsb Fully dived Celes with ssb and lmr And staples: Ramza shout/chant Krile sheepsong Papalymo ley lines Vanille bsb Yshy wall/proshellgenga/bsb Firion BSB Fran bsb/lightning imperil ssb Noctis ssb My first Bismarck attempt failed with: Ramza shout Lightning ssb/OSB Kain bsb Vanille bsb Yshy bsb and later wall after rw ended at ~1 min point Lots of Inc damage and not much going out. What a. I doing wrong?
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Fister Roboto posted:Am I missing something or does the 11 realm still not have anyone who can use Full Break? You are correct. Also apparently 1 min 20 sec is the mark for all magicite bosses to go into all out attack mode
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I'm hitting that point in realm dungeons (XII) where I'm either only getting one stamina shard or none for completion. Should I just start going back through elites that give 2 shards to keep riding free stamina refreshes, or do later realm dungeons start giving more stamina shards again? Trying to make the best use of the 1/2 stamina while it lasts.
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Riftling posted:I'm hitting that point in realm dungeons (XII) where I'm either only getting one stamina shard or none for completion. Should I just start going back through elites that give 2 shards to keep riding free stamina refreshes, or do later realm dungeons start giving more stamina shards again? Trying to make the best use of the 1/2 stamina while it lasts. 2 stamina shards is the exception, not the rule. Getting all of them is an eventuality, so do whatever content you can. 1/2 price dungeons happen for at least a week every month when the new realm dungeons get released, which will be happening in another week or so for September. The 30th anniversary fest at the end of September will probably also have 1/2 price stamina, too. Edit: Realm dungeons are always available, so it's usually a good idea to prioritize getting as far as you can into the limited time events because the rewards from those are gone forever after the event ends. Boogaloo Shrimp fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Aug 25, 2017 |
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I can get Hydra down to about 30% or so before the RW drops off and I get wasted. I did recently draw Gladio's OSB (sadly without his Enearth BSB to go with it), so I'll probably level him and Tifa up and give it another go. Would be nice to try to get Dorgann's BSB next week to go with it, but it's that 1% chance.
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Thundercracker posted:You are correct. It's actually based on number of turns taken by the boss, but given they all have the same speed (except Liquid Flame, I guess?) and their moves all have standard charge time, it's basically the same thing as a hard minutes/seconds time limit. Since Liquid Flame is slower (but has instant-cast moves) and keeps resetting his ATB with form changes, I figure it takes a fair bit longer to hit a "berserk state" for that fight, if there even is one. ApplesandOranges posted:I can get Hydra down to about 30% or so before the RW drops off and I get wasted. I did recently draw Gladio's OSB (sadly without his Enearth BSB to go with it), so I'll probably level him and Tifa up and give it another go. Would be nice to try to get Dorgann's BSB next week to go with it, but it's that 1% chance. I'm not looking forward to Hydra, despite having done Golem first. Golem's summon skill isn't that great, and my best Earth characters are... ah... Noctis and Master, I guess. KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Aug 25, 2017 |
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Thundercracker posted:You are correct. Yup, that's about right and why Turtle strats are a bad idea: all of them will overwhelm pretty any level of defense once they get there. Also your rewards will be terrible even if you do manage to clinch it. Fun fact, though: Elara's Wall lasts for thirty seconds per cast so there's not a lot of point brining Y'sh or Tyro Wall. If you need that third cast you'll probably be flattened anyways. Edit: Oh, and might as well throw this in too. The Magicites are expected to be farmed. For a bit now JP side has been running a monthly pair of Cid's Missions worth 5 Mythril total. 2 for clearing Magicites ten times that month and another 3 for ten more on top of that. LornMarkus fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Aug 25, 2017 |
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