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Genocide Tendency
Dec 24, 2009

I get mental health care from the medical equivalent of Skillcraft.


Mr. Nice! posted:

The storm surge isn't a concern. The concern is the 30-40 inches of water in a couple days dumping on areas that get less than that annually.

Again. I don't know the topography. Even a 6 foot surge can gently caress poo poo up depending on the topography. So its not automatically discredited. But yes. And I mentioned it earlier. The rain, especially inland is going to ruin a lot of poo poo. It will probably cause the most damage, since the building codes in the area where winds will be the worst are stringent.

Speaking of Surge numbers... The latest estimates:

N Entrance Padre Island Natl Seashore to Sargent...6 to 12 ft
Sargent to Jamaica Beach...5 to 8 ft
Port Mansfield to N Entrance Padre Island Natl Seashore...5 to 7 ft
Jamaica Beach to High Island...2 to 4 ft
Mouth of the Rio Grande to Port Mansfield...2 to 4 ft
High Island to Morgan City...1 to 3 ft


The 1am central update is in. Cat 2 at 105 and 967mb.


SUMMARY OF 100 AM CDT...0600 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...25.6N 95.1W
ABOUT 210 MI...335 KM SE OF CORPUS CHRISTI TEXAS
ABOUT 210 MI...335 KM SSE OF PORT OCONNOR TEXAS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...105 MPH...165 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 315 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...967 MB...28.56 INCHES

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KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

Read nothing, scroll down a bit and watch that video. I was yelling "STAAAAAAAAHP :D" when it turns out Michael Bay inspired.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Genocide Tendency posted:

Again. I don't know the topography. Even a 6 foot surge can gently caress poo poo up depending on the topography. So its not automatically discredited. But yes. And I mentioned it earlier. The rain, especially inland is going to ruin a lot of poo poo. It will probably cause the most damage, since the building codes in the area where winds will be the worst are stringent.

Speaking of Surge numbers... The latest estimates:

N Entrance Padre Island Natl Seashore to Sargent...6 to 12 ft
Sargent to Jamaica Beach...5 to 8 ft
Port Mansfield to N Entrance Padre Island Natl Seashore...5 to 7 ft
Jamaica Beach to High Island...2 to 4 ft
Mouth of the Rio Grande to Port Mansfield...2 to 4 ft
High Island to Morgan City...1 to 3 ft


The 1am central update is in. Cat 2 at 105 and 967mb.


SUMMARY OF 100 AM CDT...0600 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...25.6N 95.1W
ABOUT 210 MI...335 KM SE OF CORPUS CHRISTI TEXAS
ABOUT 210 MI...335 KM SSE OF PORT OCONNOR TEXAS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...105 MPH...165 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 315 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...967 MB...28.56 INCHES

I mean, yeah, for sure coastal areas are going to get hosed by the surge, but the real issue is going to be Austin, Houston, etc getting 2-3x their annual rainfall in a 2-3 day span. Flooding is gonna be bad, yo.

tyler
Jun 2, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryZJWLMe1ag

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010

mlmp08 posted:

You bring dishonor to Bowie.

It's actually Dolph Lundgren. I met him once at work you know.

Syncopated fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Aug 25, 2017

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
I'm waiting for one of the dams to burst and flood that nuclear power plant in the rain zone. Texas Fukushima.

piL
Sep 20, 2007
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Taco Defender
Texas Fukushima is a pretty kickass band name.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Would also work as a character in a cyberpunk novel.

But yeah apparently the plant in Matagorda County, one of the two nuke plants in the state, is vulnerable to being knocked out by an upstream dam failure. I'm ready for the Matagorda Zone.

Edit: Dolph Lundgren owns btw. He's my favorite of the 80s action stars.

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Aug 25, 2017

Wonder Free
Jun 19, 2006

Throw some D's..

Genocide Tendency posted:

Again. I don't know the topography. Even a 6 foot surge can gently caress poo poo up depending on the topography. So its not automatically discredited. But yes. And I mentioned it earlier. The rain, especially inland is going to ruin a lot of poo poo. It will probably cause the most damage, since the building codes in the area where winds will be the worst are stringent.

Speaking of Surge numbers... The latest estimates:

N Entrance Padre Island Natl Seashore to Sargent...6 to 12 ft
Sargent to Jamaica Beach...5 to 8 ft
Port Mansfield to N Entrance Padre Island Natl Seashore...5 to 7 ft
Jamaica Beach to High Island...2 to 4 ft
Mouth of the Rio Grande to Port Mansfield...2 to 4 ft
High Island to Morgan City...1 to 3 ft


The 1am central update is in. Cat 2 at 105 and 967mb.


SUMMARY OF 100 AM CDT...0600 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...25.6N 95.1W
ABOUT 210 MI...335 KM SE OF CORPUS CHRISTI TEXAS
ABOUT 210 MI...335 KM SSE OF PORT OCONNOR TEXAS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...105 MPH...165 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 315 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...967 MB...28.56 INCHES

A 6 foot surge will definitely mess up the coastal areas. Depending on when they were developed a lot of them will be grandfathered into the more stringent codes and into the NFIP. The beaches here have a ton of one story homes in an area with a base flood elevation of 5 or so feet. Couple that with rain and high tide and some areas are boned unless they're elevated.

I'm about to leave for another flight into Harvey. It's movement is slow and it's sitting on a warm eddy so it's intensifying rapidly. It was declared a hurricane as we flew into it yesterday, and was tickling CAT 2 when we left.

We are deploying a mapping aircraft tomorrow to survey damage, etc, but if it's does major damage I'm sure our emergency response role with be more intense.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
But climate change is a hoax guys the president told me so.

Poppyseed Poundcake
Feb 23, 2007
Isn't it a little suspicious that the hurricane is coming from Mexico?

FastestGunAlive
Apr 7, 2010

Dancing palm tree.
All part of FEMAs plan to put us in camps and give our guns to the UN

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

bird food bathtub posted:

But climate change is a hoax guys the president told me so.

I was talking to someone recently who believes climate change is a hoax.

I asked them what the worst possible outcome of believing climate change is real is, if it is indeed a hoax.

Something about killing industry, unemployment going up, the economy suffering, taxing people to build solar panels, somethingsomething.

Then I asked what the worst possible outcome of believing climate change is a hoax is, if it is indeed real.

He kind of stumbled through a response about how it's a hoax so he doesn't need to entertain the idea of it being real.

piL
Sep 20, 2007
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Taco Defender

NUKES CURE NORKS posted:

I was talking to someone recently who believes climate change is a hoax.

I asked them what the worst possible outcome of believing climate change is real is, if it is indeed a hoax.

Something about killing industry, unemployment going up, the economy suffering, taxing people to build solar panels, somethingsomething.

Then I asked what the worst possible outcome of believing climate change is a hoax is, if it is indeed real.

He kind of stumbled through a response about how it's a hoax so he doesn't need to entertain the idea of it being real.

While I appreciate the effort, this same logic justifies multiple conflicting Judaeochristian religions. And while I do believe in climate change based on little to no effort, observation, or research conducted by myself, the real world effects of false economic constraints have historically been incredibly dehumanizingly murderously awful.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


piL posted:

While I appreciate the effort, this same logic justifies multiple conflicting Judaeochristian religions. And while I do believe in climate change based on little to no effort, observation, or research conducted by myself, the real world effects of false economic constraints have historically been incredibly dehumanizingly murderously awful.

Shifting geographical and agricultural constraints have also been quite awful. Guess we have to decide which is worse.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

piL posted:

While I appreciate the effort, this same logic justifies multiple conflicting Judaeochristian religions. And while I do believe in climate change based on little to no effort, observation, or research conducted by myself, the real world effects of false economic constraints have historically been incredibly dehumanizingly murderously awful.

Rising temperatures and failing croplands are certainly going to be real economic constraints.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

no way this could possibly go badly

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/shout-allahu-akbar-and-you-will-be-shot-warns-luigi-brugnaro-mayor-of-venice-z7p79z8gr

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
I live down the street practically from the FEMA Region VI headquarters (got a cool decommissioned nuclear war bunker underneath) so I bet there will be a lot of busy bees coming to and from soon if this storm goes badly.

If FEMA will even do anything haha

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 23 hours!

What about someone in St Mark's square yelling 'deus vult'?

DKD
Dec 25, 2011

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

What about someone in St Mark's square yelling 'deus vult'?

Time to get some new statues, heck yeah

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
The first ship has crossed the Northern Shipping Route from Europe to Asia without an icebreaker. This is a first, and a bad sign for the health of the ice there.

Not good.

Naramyth
Jan 22, 2009

Australia cares about cunts. Including this one.

CommieGIR posted:

The first ship has crossed the Northern Shipping Route from Europe to Asia without an icebreaker. This is a first, and a bad sign for the health of the ice there.

Not good.

Apparently the ship itself was kind of an icebreaker

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-41037071

quote:

The ship, which features a lightweight steel reinforced hull, is the largest commercial ship to receive Arc7 certification, which means it is capable of travelling through ice up to 2.1m thick.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

CommieGIR posted:

The first ship has crossed the Northern Shipping Route from Europe to Asia without an icebreaker. This is a first, and a bad sign for the health of the ice there.

Not good.

Wow check out Negative Nelly here all concerned about the environment and poo poo. Don't think of it as a global climate catastrophe, think of it as a profit making opportunity! You'll be dead before it leads to the possible extinction of humanity so who cares?

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Naramyth posted:

Apparently the ship itself was kind of an icebreaker

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-41037071

This ship would normally still need an icebreaker regardless. Its still a problem.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Naramyth posted:

Apparently the ship itself was kind of an icebreaker

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-41037071

It's strengthened to operate in arctic waters but is not an icebreaker.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_class#Russian_Maritime_Register_of_Shipping

Untagged
Mar 29, 2004

Hey, does your planet have wiper fluid yet or you gonna freak out and start worshiping us?
It's just a difference in class and type. Yeah, it's not an "icebreaker" in the traditional sense. It's an LNG ship. But it's Arc7 rating is actually better in some ways or equal to the Icebreaker6 designation many of the purpose built Russian icebreakers have.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Naramyth posted:

Apparently the ship itself was kind of an icebreaker

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-41037071

I am old, and thus remember when SS Manhattan did it in--what? 1971?

fake edit: 1969

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

is texas dead yet

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!


texas died on February 19, 1846.

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

I live down the street practically from the FEMA Region VI headquarters (got a cool decommissioned nuclear war bunker underneath) so I bet there will be a lot of busy bees coming to and from soon if this storm goes badly.

If FEMA will even do anything haha

Do they have any nano augmentations or barrels of ambrosia?

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

No landfall hasn't happened yet. Supposed to happen late tonight or early in the AM. Lots of Texas is gonna get fuuuuuuucked up.

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

I would just like to say a goodbye to Texas. I've got a lot of friends there, and, yeh, hope you aren't actually there right at this moment. Or have some really good floats.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Madurai posted:

I am old, and thus remember when SS Manhattan did it in--what? 1971?

fake edit: 1969

Manhattan had a two icebreaker escort.

Ships have been doing the Northwest Passage unassisted for a while now, albeit occasionally. Every few years a shipping company will pull a stunt like this and get media attention, it's basically meaningless. This is a good ice year, meaning there's not a whole lot of ice in the Arctic. It's a single data point, not a sure fire sign of global warming. Is the trend worrysome? drat right.

Arc7 is between PC 3 and 4. That thing is an icebreaker. Wake me up when they pull that poo poo in the winter and turn a profit doing it.

Thwomp
Apr 10, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Grimey Drawer
If you aren't following the meteorology thread, you're missing out.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3762868

The storm is intensifying more than expected. It's closing in on Katrina strength and is expected to just sit over Texas and poo poo upwards of 3 feet of rain.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
West Texas will experience sporadic light showers. Southeast/Central Texas is going to almost entirely be underwater, though. :rip:

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVjdMLAMbM0

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Be thankful nobody here is at an AETC base right now.

"Well you've swept up all the trash and branches that we possibly could on the base. I can't just cut you loose because I'm a big sandy vagina so now you're going to go clean up retiree yard because those fat fucks totally can't do it themselves."

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
I really hope FEMA has their poo poo secretly together, because the White House is not giving me confidence.

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/901151539968004096

https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/901153181413109760

https://twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/901152321165545472

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Quick show of hands. Who wants to buy a shirt that says "Shoot the looters" and the picture will have a family that is clearly Caucasian stealing stuff on it?

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psydude
Apr 1, 2008


Does he have a golf course there?

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