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Ravel posted:I doubt GRRM has communicated anything that concrete to them about the final book. Nobody is invested in Euron and having him be so central to the final conflict reminds me of the finale of breaking bad, which had a similar tertiary character somehow promoted to main villain and the whole thing was impotent as a result. 110% agree
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lezard_valeth posted:Reposting from the bad thread. You realize The Onion is a parody website, yes?
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This is like that time Jon Hendren went on TV to talk about Edward Snowden.
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grack posted:You realize The Onion is a parody website, yes? I did not  Not familiar with english news media, but note taken 
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Ravel posted:I doubt GRRM has communicated anything that concrete to them about the final book. Nobody is invested in Euron and having him be so central to the final conflict reminds me of the finale of breaking bad, which had a similar tertiary character somehow promoted to main villain and the whole thing was impotent as a result. GRRM divorced himself from the show a while ago, he got about 20 characters still alive that they killed. I dont think he gives a poo poo what they do
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I can't wait to see people flinging poo poo at Dany tbh
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Isn't the Dany actress big enough that she has a stunt nude these days?
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JBP posted:Isn't the Dany actress big enough that she has a stunt nude these days? Yes. Her name is Rosie Mac if you want to find some tabloid poo poo.
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Ravel posted:I doubt GRRM has communicated anything that concrete to them about the final book. Nobody is invested in Euron and having him be so central to the final conflict reminds me of the finale of breaking bad, which had a similar tertiary character somehow promoted to main villain and the whole thing was impotent as a result. I could see GRRM thinking Euron would be the main villain if you look at where the books were six years ago.
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Lloyd Boner posted:I can't wait to see people flinging poo poo at Dany tbh Yas queen
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The fact that Bronn gets a happy ending in those leaks makes me pretty sure they're fake. If he doesn't die a hero's death then his whole arc makes no sense.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I could see GRRM thinking Euron would be the main villain if you look at where the books were six years ago. I play the GoT card game with my gf and she has to explain who half the people are. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Euron is the final boss in the TV show despite people like me being all "where the gently caress did this dude pop up from?" Is he mentioned and I've just forgotten due to it being ages?
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precision posted:The fact that Bronn gets a happy ending in those leaks makes me pretty sure they're fake. If he doesn't die a hero's death then his whole arc makes no sense. Hes not a hero hes an opportunistic sell sword. If he was supposed to have a heros death he would have just fought the mountain for tyrion
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JBP posted:I play the GoT card game with my gf and she has to explain who half the people are. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Euron is the final boss in the TV show despite people like me being all "where the gently caress did this dude pop up from?" Well in the book he gets a lot of attention because he hosed up the lives of his entire family, three of whom are viewpoint characters, and he's even more ridiculous because he has a horn of dragoncalling he's going to win Dany's heart with, and he drinks this thing that's supposed to kill you and makes his lips purple, and he has heavy metal hair and a bright blue eye or something. He's the most Mary Sue character in the whole series.
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Euron is certainly being set up as a major player for the next phase of the story and his narrative trajectory seems like it will bring him into conflict with Dany (through dragon theft) and Cersei (by invading the Reach) but there's also foreshadowing that he'll ally with one or both of them (Dany's dream about a blue-lipped lover + House of the Undying vision of one her lovers being represented by a corpse on the prow of a ship smiling sadly; Aeron has a fever dream after ingesting Shade of the Evening in which he sees Euron handing around a figure that is probably Cersei [or Dany] + their alliance on the show). Thematically, one can also interpret Euron as a kind of Anti-Bran, since there's the implication that he was once groomed by the Three Eyed Crow like Bran was (the crow imagery, one eye imagery, dreams of flying as a child) and he's like the only character in the series who is embracing magic and exploiting it to acquire power, so he has the potential to be a lasting antagonist. Really, I like Euron being the final antagonist in a kind of Saruman at the Scouring of the Shire kind of the way because his inclusion in the story is kind of "forced"* (and I mean that in a good way): he's the type of monster that can only rise to prominence as a result of the chaos created by the War of the Five Kings (hence his true introduction in AFFC, which deals with the postwar) so he's clawed his way into the story and will claw his way to the top by exploiting blood magic and god knows what else (if we're looking at all the vague Lovecraftian imagery with the Drowned God and the history of the Iron Islands in TWOIAF). I've seen other people speculate that the show has cribbed the "Night's King steals a dragon and burns down the Wall" thing from Book Euron, and, while I wouldn't go that far, for him to do something catastrophic like that would fit with what we know about him. Anyone interested in knowing more should go read Poor Quentyn's Eldritch Apocalypse theory which, while a bit out there, is a fun read. * see also Aegon, who is a pretender in every sense of the word as he is designed from the ground up to steal Jon and Dany's thunder as both Rhaegar's lost son in hiding and the exiled heir to the throne returning to reclaim their birthright. In It For The Tank fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Aug 25, 2017 |
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precision posted:The fact that Bronn gets a happy ending in those leaks makes me pretty sure they're fake. If he doesn't die a hero's death then his whole arc makes no sense. But that's his arc in the books 
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Doesn't bronn retire to his castle stokeworth and name the stokeworth kid Tyrion to gently caress with cersei in the book?
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basic hitler posted:Doesn't bronn retire to his castle stokeworth and name the stokeworth kid Tyrion to gently caress with cersei in the book? The Stokeworth rape bastard yes. He also kills the husband of Lollys' sister, who conspired with Cersei to kill Bronn, which lands the sister in Qyburn's dungeon.
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Turns out GoT actors don't earn nearly as much as they were rumored to: https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/4302776/game-of-thrones-cast-salaries-emilia-clarke-kit-harrington/ Top earners get around 500k USD per episode. Also the leaks are so totally real.
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Oh no, "only" 500,000 dollars per episode. Gonna have to find my tiniest violin for this one...
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Eh, I mean, people itt were saying they were getting 1.2 million dollar etc, thought it was fair to post the real numbers.
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Considering what the show likely makes for gurm, the hacks, and HBO itself, that seems a rather low figure honestly
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Turns out GoT actors don't earn nearly as much as they were rumored to: https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/4302776/game-of-thrones-cast-salaries-emilia-clarke-kit-harrington/ I thought it was always known they earn .5m an episode. That's still a loving huge amount of money for principals. Consider that Spacey gets around the same for house of cards. It's extraordinary.
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It means that the GoT main cast earn about half as much as the top 3 billed actors on The Big Bang Theory. Though I mean, say what you will about the Big Bang Theory but Jim Parsons and Kaley Cuoco are better at acting than Kit and Emilia, so maybe they deserve more?
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JBP posted:I thought it was always known they earn .5m an episode. That's still a loving huge amount of money for principals. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2017/04/25/game-thrones-stars-reportedly-sign-biggest-pay-per-episode-deal/ And 500k is pretty low, when the Friends actors made 1 million a episode back in 2004, the Simpson VA make 300k per episode and even the HIMYM actors made 225,000 per episode.
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Decius posted:And 500k is pretty low, when the Friends actors made 1 million a episode back in 2004, the Simpson VA make 300k per episode and even the HIMYM actors made 225,000 per episode. Friends had to film 22 episodes a year, and every cast member was basically in every episode. GoT films 10 (or less!) episodes and many actors have several episodes where they don't show up at all or barely show up. I'd say the Friends crowd earned it.
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Oh no Emilia Clarke only got half a mil for staring into the camera with no expression and saying "bendy knees" a couple of times. How will the poor girl put bread on the table. 
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WampaLord posted:Friends had to film 22 episodes a year, and every cast member was basically in every episode. GoT got its best reported ratings ever recently with 10m viewers Friends averaged 30m a episode with 3 times as many episodes a year and every actor probably had more screentime by far then any single actor during a hourlong of thrones.
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In It For The Tank posted:Really, I like Euron being the final antagonist in a kind of Saruman at the Scouring of the Shire kind of the way because his inclusion in the story is kind of "forced"* (and I mean that in a good way): he's the type of monster that can only rise to prominence as a result of the chaos created by the War of the Five Kings Yeah I do like that as an idea, but the way they're setting it up is the equivalent of killing like Aragorn, Pippin, Faramir, and Treebeard during the confrontation with Saruman As a "putting the pieces back together" kind of thing (which it does seem like GRRM is very interested in) it would be cool but if it actually goes down as described D&D will just turn it into another huge climactic set piece rather than part of the broader story's resolution Cornflakes fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Aug 25, 2017 |
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OST is out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4_Psg5mV4c Think this is boatsex theme It's gonna be an epic boatsex scene edit: This one is good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeYNHwRswYU White Walker theme + Hardhome gives me the chills lezard_valeth fucked around with this message at 11:41 on Aug 25, 2017 |
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The final chord is proof that Lady Stoneheart returns in the finale.
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lmao i just read those season 8 "leaks" and they are pretty fake my friends, unless it's HBO's plan is to take twitter and the whole of the internet offline forever next year. all the female characters become useless, ignoring what's come before. this sundays episode already contradicts some of the theon poo poo anyway, i mean sure the pregnancy is super obvious at this point but that whole varys thing with the sword, is that meant to be how lightbringer gets made but after the night king is defeated? what? is varys, azor ahai? and bran becoming night king 2 lmao that just seems to play on that whole dumb fan theory of bran already being the night king stuck in a warg. poo poo makes no sense. fire and wild fire does not kill dragons and there is gonna be a dragon in the dragon pit on sunday so lol okay. also jon and dany's kid would be a bastard and probably not on the throne. i guess we'll know for sure when the trailer hits? its full of characters doing dumb poo poo and fanwankery and ignores a poo poo load of grrm themes but then again, having sam spend two seasons finding out poo poo stannis already told him and all the dumb poo poo they've done this season, lol why not, 2018 internet is gonna be hilarious. Vikar Jerome fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Aug 25, 2017 |
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Vikar Jerome posted:also jon and dany's kid would be a bastard and probably not on the throne I agree with everything else and also think the spoilers are fake and bad, but now that we know Rhaegar actually married Lyanna Stark, Jon's a legitimate Targ, so a Jon/Dany child wouldn't be a bastard.
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The season 8 leaks gaining momentum is a mix of them being dumb enough that after what we've seen this season sound totally plausible, being written in a format that resembles the real leaked outlines, and also goons hopewishing that this whole thing will end in a flaming ball of trash upsetting every showfan. With that said, I'm in the hopewish boat cause Kelly C getting poo poo flinged at her would be the best payoff for enduring s5 onwards fanservice
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WampaLord posted:I agree with everything else and also think the spoilers are fake and bad, but now that we know Rhaegar actually married Lyanna Stark, Jon's a legitimate Targ, so a Jon/Dany child wouldn't be a bastard. It would unless Jon/Dany marry offscreen.
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GaussianCopula posted:It would unless Jon/Dany marry offscreen. I would assume if they found out Dany was pregnant and Jon was still alive, they'd get married to ensure the successor of the throne, given how heavy handed Tyrion was being about it earlier.
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Lol I mean saying that the leaks are fake is one thing but saying they're fake because they do not adhere to the laws of succession established on the show is hilarious given that we already had Queen Cersei and Queen "Paramour to the old Prince's brother and their bastard daughters, whatever".
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNjkUduAlHI This one is good too. If Nikolaj and Lena act good (which they usually do) and the scene is well directed (which lately usually isn't) in order to follow the music's beats this could be a really great scene. Cersei revealing her plan to just leave everyone to die. Jaime desperately trying to find any last reedemable quality on the woman he loves only to find nothing and be disgusted, finally deciding to leave. Cersei going full on mad queen at the end, maybe even shouting and going  "You'll regret this!" at Jaime's back.
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I have been wanting Jaime to ditch Cersei ever since season 6 but yeah that theme is hopegiving, and I love any time they reference LightoftheSeven
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Vikar Jerome posted:lmao i just read those season 8 "leaks" and they are pretty fake my friends, unless it's HBO's plan is to take twitter and the whole of the internet offline forever next year. all the female characters become useless, ignoring what's come before. this sundays episode already contradicts some of the theon poo poo anyway, i mean sure the pregnancy is super obvious at this point but that whole varys thing with the sword, is that meant to be how lightbringer gets made but after the night king is defeated? what? is varys, azor ahai? and bran becoming night king 2 lmao that just seems to play on that whole dumb fan theory of bran already being the night king stuck in a warg. poo poo makes no sense. fire and wild fire does not kill dragons and there is gonna be a dragon in the dragon pit on sunday so lol okay. also jon and dany's kid would be a bastard and probably not on the throne. i guess we'll know for sure when the trailer hits? If the oi writer chavs really nicked the ending from GRRM, then all that Azor Ahai stuff actually makes sense. GRRM's whole stick is that every culture has the same boring messiah myths and prophecies and that it's all just self-fulfilling bullshit and confirmation bias. Raeghar was Azor Ahai/The Prince that was promised until it was Stannis until it was Beric until it was Jon until it was Danny and so on. It's all bullshit and IRC Melisandre even realizes this to some extend but still uses the myths for her own purposes.
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