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Malcolm XML: Aug 8, 2009; I always knew it would end like ｔｈｉｓ．

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# ? Aug 21, 2017 18:53

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# ? May 22, 2024 16:52

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

pseudorandom name posted:

its kind of dumb -- the conceptual design is good, but the nitty gritty details of how the API actually works are a little bit crap.

the file handle, buffer address, buffer size, and APC function pointer are passed directly as parameters to e.g. ReadFileEx, but the file offset and notification event handle are packaged up in an OVERLAPPED struct with some internal data members for no apparent reason.

and then you have the CreateIoCompletionPort function, which can create an IOCP, associate a file handle with an existing IOCP, or simultaneously create an IOCP and associate a file handle with it, because it sure makes sense to cram all three things into one function called Create.

i was extremely baffled by it when i tried to use it for some USB device via c# the docs were just like "pass in an overlapped struct pointer or not" and i was like wtf??? so i just used their lovely half-broken blocking call instead. the whole thing was a little half baked and i assume that the usb device vendor is entirely at fault

# ? Aug 21, 2017 19:02

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

A programmer needed to process data faster than his hardware could support. "I know," he said, "I'll use threads." Now he has ten problems.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 21:42

MononcQc: May 29, 2007

Gazpacho posted:

A programmer needed to process data faster than his hardware could support. "I know," he said, "I'll use threads." Nwlepr h eohn tas es.obm

# ? Aug 21, 2017 21:49

carry on then: Jul 10, 2010; by VideoGames
(and can't post for 10 years!)

MononcQc posted:

here's what happens if you run every iteration of fizzbuzz on its own thread with no synchronization

code:

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# ? Aug 21, 2017 22:23

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

that's not the output I got

# ? Aug 21, 2017 22:34

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

How do you tell a co-worker to write a loop instead of copypasting a block 20 times without sounding rude

# ? Aug 21, 2017 22:35

MononcQc: May 29, 2007

curl + xargs is cool

# ? Aug 21, 2017 22:36

ultravoices: May 10, 2004; You are about to embark on a great journey. Are you ready, my friend?

Gazpacho posted:

How do you tell a co-worker to write a loop instead of copypasting a block 20 times without sounding rude

your failure to use iteration deeply upsets the wa

# ? Aug 21, 2017 23:25

Sweeper: Nov 29, 2007; The Joe Buck of Posting; Dinosaur Gum

Gazpacho posted:

How do you tell a co-worker to write a loop instead of copypasting a block 20 times without sounding rude

highlight the first one and write "loop?"

# ? Aug 22, 2017 03:29

Hollow Talk: Feb 2, 2014

Sweeper posted:

highlight each one and write "loop?" underneath each

# ? Aug 22, 2017 10:18

ComradeCosmobot: Dec 4, 2004; USPOL July

Sweeper posted:

highlight each one and write "loop?" underneath each

if you don't do this they will almost certainly miss fixing at least one of them

# ? Aug 22, 2017 14:11

Fergus Mac Roich: Nov 5, 2008; Soiled Meat

Gazpacho posted:

How do you tell a co-worker to write a loop instead of copypasting a block 20 times without sounding rude

code review

# ? Aug 22, 2017 14:49

CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

Sweeper posted:

highlight the entire block and write "poop?"

# ? Aug 22, 2017 15:11

Workaday Wizard: Oct 23, 2009; by Pragmatica

CPColin posted:

# ? Aug 22, 2017 18:12

NihilCredo: Jun 6, 2011; iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

Gazpacho posted:

How do you tell a co-worker to write a loop instead of copypasting a block 20 times without sounding rude

Every morning before he gets to work remove the Ctrl, C, and V keys from his keyboard. Keep doing this until he gets the hint.

# ? Aug 22, 2017 22:23

AWWNAW: Dec 30, 2008

Gazpacho posted:

How do you tell a co-worker to write a loop instead of copypasting a block 20 times without sounding rude

perhaps it is you that is the idiot here. through extensive profiling they may have found unrolling the loop by hand is tr�s performant

# ? Aug 22, 2017 22:59

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

more like noobfiling

# ? Aug 22, 2017 23:41

pokeyman: Nov 26, 2006; That elephant ate my entire platoon.

AWWNAW posted:

perhaps it is you that is the idiot here. through extensive profiling they may have found unrolling the loop by hand is tr�s performant

through extensive profiling I have discovered that you used the wrong accent in tr�s

# ? Aug 23, 2017 02:48

AWWNAW: Dec 30, 2008

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# ? Aug 23, 2017 03:03

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# ? Aug 23, 2017 03:11

VikingofRock: Aug 24, 2008

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# ? Aug 23, 2017 03:28

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

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# ? Aug 23, 2017 05:38

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

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# ? Aug 23, 2017 08:45

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# ? Aug 23, 2017 12:23

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# ? Aug 23, 2017 15:26

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# ? Aug 23, 2017 19:05

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JawnV6 posted:

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# ? Aug 23, 2017 23:38

AWWNAW: Dec 30, 2008

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# ? Aug 24, 2017 01:19

Maluco Marinero: Jan 18, 2001; Damn that's a
fine elephant.

a very yospos page indeed.

# ? Aug 24, 2017 02:56

Max Facetime: Apr 18, 2009

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deductive_lambda_calculus posted:

Alonzo Church invented the lambda calculus in the 1930s, originally to provide a new and simpler basis for mathematics.[1][2] However soon after inventing it major logic problems were identified with the definition of the lambda abstraction: The Kleene�Rosser paradox is an implementation of Richard's paradox in the lambda calculus.[3] Haskell Curry found that the key step in this paradox could be used to implement the simpler Curry's paradox. The existence of these paradoxes meant that the lambda calculus could not be both consistent and complete as a deductive system.[4]

Haskell Curry studied of illative (deductive) combinatory logic in 1941.[5] Combinatory logic is closely related to lambda calculus, and the same paradoxes exist in each.

Later the lambda calculus was resurrected as a definition of a programming language.

seems kinda ironic that the PLs most ~~inspired~~ contaminated by the lambda calculus are also used by the more "mathematically orientated" programmers :thumbsup:

# ? Aug 25, 2017 14:04

rjmccall: Sep 7, 2007; no worries friend; Fun Shoe

welcome to 20th century mathematics, where no advanced logics at all are both consistent and complete

you can view the static/dynamic split in pl design as the two branching paths here if you like, it's not completely misleading

# ? Aug 25, 2017 16:23

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

rjmccall posted:

welcome to 20th century mathematics, where no advanced logics at all are both consistent and complete

you can view the static/dynamic split in pl design as the two branching paths here if you like, it's not completely misleading

i get this but it's more like we aren't making a useful division between static/dynamic

# ? Aug 25, 2017 16:36

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

use a lang with structural typing and type inference

best of both worlds

# ? Aug 25, 2017 16:40

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

i feel like the dynamic vs static thing is a holdover from how we've slowly been implementing languages

early defs were about runtime:

it ran in an interpreter (hello early lisps, and maybe pascals)

vs created a binary

defs were about type conversion too, but weak/strong seems to have come along

implicit casts (hello tcl everything is a string, also scala)

vs explicit casts (hello not being able to promote an int to a float)

although sometimes people use it to mean:

structural typing (does it have these attributes, cf row polymorphism, golang, duck-typing)

nominative typing (does it have right name, gigantic subclass heirarchies)

throw in weird languages like Strongtalk, which had an optional static type checker ignored by the runtime, it all gets a little odd

# ? Aug 25, 2017 16:43

The Collector: Aug 9, 2011; I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
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i want boring corporate money. Java or C#?

# ? Aug 25, 2017 20:53

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# ? May 22, 2024 16:52

MrMoo: Sep 14, 2000

App servers or desktop apps? I think Java + app server is probably more widespread.

# ? Aug 25, 2017 20:57

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