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Nephzinho posted:"Stupid team, no one helping me" Other four people are pushing bot fort while Leoric is trying to get the enemy's watch tower top.
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PantsBandit posted:"Leoric, back off, you can't kill Malthael" I am still amazed at the number of Leoric's that manage double digit deaths every game, because they think the shortened respawn timer makes it okay. You're still loving dead for a third of the game, and that's not okay. Being dead for a third of the game instead of half of it isn't really beneficial to your team.
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Mierenneuker posted:Because the quests you get aren't completely random, they are influenced by what characters you tend to play. If you never play support, it's very unlikely you'll get the support quest. Play nothing but StarCraft heroes? You'll see that play 2 games with StarCraft heroes quest more often. I don't play support because I never get support quests
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TwoWordName posted:I had an Illidan in QM last night that seemed genuinely angry that I took gorge on Stitches outside of ranked They were pretty furious about a lot of things considering they quit contributing after losing the first tribute fight but that's the first time I've seen someone mad about the ultimate that makes getting picks easier? Bile really helps illidan out, as if you can position your bile drop to slow the whole enemy team down illidan can go to town shredding them. It's boring and not as flashy but is the more reliable ult, even if gorge picks are super fun.
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DisgracelandUSA posted:I want mecchatorque and/or whatever the evil gnome from gnomeregan was named. Mekkatorque Specialist that's an anti-Specialist; he can temporarily bolster towers, clear lanes of summons, and bully split-pushers with a marching army of little clockworks a la Ragnaros's lava wave. Normal gnome-in-robot-mech skin comes with janky leper gnome recolors, and the legendary skin turns him into Mimiron.
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No Wave posted:What was implied was the inaccuracy and uselessness of hotslogs data. Blizzard explained the reason for the Chen changes was because his winrate was at 55%+. According to HotsLogs at the time it was 49%. That's pretty inaccurate and useless, as its quite literally the difference between being top tier and being middle of the pack. Hotslogs data is basically useless.
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Aug 26, 2017 03:32
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biznatchio posted:Hotslogs is basically useless. Fixed.
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Dire Human posted:Mekkatorque Specialist that's an anti-Specialist; he can temporarily bolster towers, clear lanes of summons, and bully split-pushers with a marching army of little clockworks a la Ragnaros's lava wave. Ehh... Dire Human posted:the legendary skin turns him into Mimiron. Sold.
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whens dreadlord jaina
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Dire Human posted:the legendary skin turns him into Mimiron. I've never played a WC game, so I read this as "Minion" at first  When Kyrosiris approved, I knew I had to read it again. BrianBoitano fucked around with this message at 12:30 on Aug 26, 2017 |
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biznatchio posted:Blizzard explained the reason for the Chen changes was because his winrate was at 55%+. According to HotsLogs at the time it was 49%. That's pretty inaccurate and useless, as its quite literally the difference between being top tier and being middle of the pack. Hotslogs data is basically useless. And which winrate was that..? Just the number "55%+" out of context is completely meaningless. Sure Blizzard has all the data, but obviously they're filtering for something, if they aren't its even more meaningless. Hotdogs actually has Chen at 55% right now, I went and checked (HL, diamond, last 7 days).
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BrianBoitano posted:I've never played a WC game, so I read this as "Minion" at first Nah, Minion Abathur. He's already got the one eye!
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Getting to the point where I'm kind of tired of playing free heroes in QM. I got Muradin and Malfurion out of boxes, but they're both a little simple and boring to play all the time. Anyone have suggestions for a hero to buy? I enjoy support and warrior roles the most. I like being able to disable enemies and seal kills in team fights, and not being too easy to kill. I had been thinking of Arthas. Is that a good place to start?
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Jeremor posted:Getting to the point where I'm kind of tired of playing free heroes in QM. I got Muradin and Malfurion out of boxes, but they're both a little simple and boring to play all the time. Anyone have suggestions for a hero to buy? I enjoy support and warrior roles the most. I like being able to disable enemies and seal kills in team fights, and not being too easy to kill. I had been thinking of Arthas. Is that a good place to start? Anub'arak
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Jeremor posted:Getting to the point where I'm kind of tired of playing free heroes in QM. I got Muradin and Malfurion out of boxes, but they're both a little simple and boring to play all the time. Anyone have suggestions for a hero to buy? I enjoy support and warrior roles the most. I like being able to disable enemies and seal kills in team fights, and not being too easy to kill. I had been thinking of Arthas. Is that a good place to start? Kharazim, Rehgar, and Uther are in my opinion the most Warrior-y/Brawl-y supports. Johanna, ETC, and Stitches are in my opinion the most Support-y/Team Ability-oriented warriors. All of these heroes are hard to kill, are almost always welcome in any QM random draw, and I think fit the bill of what you're looking for. Arthas is fun as well though, I don't know how much gold coins you have or what your roster looks like currently. Macaluso posted:Anub'arak also an excellent recommendation
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Jeremor posted:Getting to the point where I'm kind of tired of playing free heroes in QM. I got Muradin and Malfurion out of boxes, but they're both a little simple and boring to play all the time. Anyone have suggestions for a hero to buy? I enjoy support and warrior roles the most. I like being able to disable enemies and seal kills in team fights, and not being too easy to kill. I had been thinking of Arthas. Is that a good place to start? Sylvanas (7k) Murky (7k) Tyrande (4k) Sonya (4k) Jaina (4k) Thrall (4k) Zagara (4k) Valla (2k) Those are all good and fun to play in their own way. I highly recommend Sonya, fits into nearly any comp, easy to play, strong laning phase so you won't have a horrible time when your premade inevitably sends you on a sololane.
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Murky is awesome but he's very very weird and plays really differently from other characters. Just keep in mind there might be a learning curve for you if you get him
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Jeremor posted:Getting to the point where I'm kind of tired of playing free heroes in QM. I got Muradin and Malfurion out of boxes, but they're both a little simple and boring to play all the time. Anyone have suggestions for a hero to buy? I enjoy support and warrior roles the most. I like being able to disable enemies and seal kills in team fights, and not being too easy to kill. I had been thinking of Arthas. Is that a good place to start? Dehaka is also a great choice, and he should always be a strong pick. He could get nerfed in the near future but his global presence is invaluable.
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Jeremor posted:Getting to the point where I'm kind of tired of playing free heroes in QM. I got Muradin and Malfurion out of boxes, but they're both a little simple and boring to play all the time. Anyone have suggestions for a hero to buy? I enjoy support and warrior roles the most. I like being able to disable enemies and seal kills in team fights, and not being too easy to kill. I had been thinking of Arthas. Is that a good place to start? I'm like you that I prefer support and warriors and thus far I've found that Rehgar is my absolute favorite. He can put out some good healing but he is also very versatile and you can easily help your team to finish off kills by using ghost wolf and earth totem. Super fun all-around.
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blitzkreig.bmp posted:Dehaka is also a great choice, and he should always be a strong pick. He could get nerfed in the near future but his global presence is invaluable. Was gonna post this. I've been using him again lately and something clicked, because goddamn he's fun.
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Tyrande rips it up for sure as long as you're constantly shooting people. She is pretty mana hungry early on but once you start completing quests only your heal really costs mana, which lets you top people up pretty effectively
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Jeremor posted:Getting to the point where I'm kind of tired of playing free heroes in QM. I got Muradin and Malfurion out of boxes, but they're both a little simple and boring to play all the time. Anyone have suggestions for a hero to buy? I enjoy support and warrior roles the most. I like being able to disable enemies and seal kills in team fights, and not being too easy to kill. I had been thinking of Arthas. Is that a good place to start? Uther and Arthas seem like they're both your speed. They're tough and bring a lot of lockdown to a fight.
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Rehgar is the kill confirmer. Every Rehgar game he has so many kills yet disappointingly low damage done. Being able to wave clear and merc well is a huge part of why he's good, and doing that is even more important for people starting out imo because there's probably more slack to cover.
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Rehgar is hard to play well, though. Watch some RECENT videos of him to get a feel for how he's played, because it's not straightforward.
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Fuzz posted:Rehgar is hard to play well, though. Watch some RECENT videos of him to get a feel for how he's played, because it's not straightforward. Reggae's butt bite is also currently bugged, which doesn't help.
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Get a dog up ya!
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Toshimo posted:Reggae's butt bite is also currently bugged, which doesn't help. What's wrong with it?
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Gustav posted:And which winrate was that..? Just the number "55%+" out of context is completely meaningless. Sure Blizzard has all the data, but obviously they're filtering for something, if they aren't its even more meaningless. Hotdogs actually has Chen at 55% right now, I went and checked (HL, diamond, last 7 days). quote:Chen, Kerrigan, and Butcher were all well outside of our win-rate bounds (45% - 55%) in all modes of play and at all MMR bands. https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/6vpchz/fyi_balance_patch_got_comments_on_kerrigan_and/dm2p2zj/ That does not sync up with HotsLogs data in the slightest, as you've already discovered by pointing out that you have to cherry pick Chen's data down to a specific league and skill band to get data that's close. And it's worth pointing out that neither Kerrigan nor The Butcher are beyond 55% winrate across all filters either. biznatchio fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Aug 26, 2017 |
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Anub and Dehaka are both solid choices. Anub is arguably the best warrior in the game with a high skill cap that once you get good with him you will be a massive force to deal with. Dehaka when played correctly has insane sustain, the ability to pull enemies into his team, and an amazing gank and map presence which makes him an autopick on certain maps like blackhearts. For support Uther would likely fit the bill of your preferred play style.
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So I'm watching this HGC bullshit and is Genji really still a big balance issue, or is he just a common pick at this high level of play? I can't tell whether he's broken or just good in the right hands.
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Both? Genji in the hands of someone even semi skilled is strong as hell and in the hands of a professional is downright broken.
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He doesn't seem to get banned very often. He's clearly very good, but apparently pro teams don't consider him broken.
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He only really adds to team fight capability. He can be countered by a more macro focused comp.
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It doesn't hurt that Genji has seen some pretty heavy nerfs. Before they hit him, he was absolutely first pick first ban all of the time.
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Genji is like Li Ming if Li Ming traded better teamfighting strength for zero waveclear/pushing power. Genji seems overpowering because he's really good at teamfights, but overall he's only "good" because of his complete lack of utility. The problem is that so much of the game is reliant on teamfights, moreso ever since the strength of a 1/4 split was discovered and became popular. Specialists (and other characters with heavy waveclear) make up for Genji's lack of strength in a lane very well, so his ultra-weak PvE hardly matters. If the players use teamwork to overcome Genji's weaknesses, his strengths become much more apparent. Teamwork is much more common at higher levels of play, so Genjis at higher levels tend to perform much more strongly over the course of the game than ones that don't have good coordination to back them up.
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Genji seems extremely weak in "the game we all play" sense now. He's still good when five professional players draft a composition around him and set him up. I haven't really worried about or been bothered by him in standard matches since he got cranked with nerfs.
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Libertine posted:Genji seems extremely weak in "the game we all play" sense now. He's still good when five professional players draft a composition around him and set him up. I haven't really worried about or been bothered by him in standard matches since he got cranked with nerfs. I had one dance all over my team in an assassinfest QM last night, but I know that's not the same as a draft mode. A good Genji can still dominate, but I basically agree with you.
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Gustav posted:What's wrong with it? It goes on cooldown but doesn't do the bonus damage.
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Good series in HGC Europe today, followed by NA LUL of Tempo Storm letting Roll20 get Garrosh every single game and having Justing demolish them in 3 games
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EDIT: wrong thread For content, I tried Lucio again after not playing him since the healing nerf and it was fun being pretty much unkillable.
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