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Neddy Seagoon posted:After the hologram cockpits came down, I was kinda expecting one of her fellow Mafia guys to be like "uh... why are you in a bikini?..." One of them does look over in a definite "what the hell?" manner when they notice, at least.
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Aug 25, 2017 11:48
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I really prefer how Build Fighters had a bunch of romantic relationships with different character dynamics but were all positive and supportive over Try's thing of having every woman fall in love with the main guy
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Guy Goodbody posted:I really prefer how Build Fighters had a bunch of romantic relationships with different character dynamics but were all positive and supportive over Try's thing of having every woman fall in love with the main guy  
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Aug 25, 2017 13:08
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Okay Maoh turning his entire gundam into a Satellite Cannon was pretty funny.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Is Ecole Du Ciel any good? I'm interested at the Montreal connection, and I want to know if there are any amusing butcherings of Canadian culture in the comic. It's kinda great how often Canadian cities pop up in Gundam.
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Improbable Lobster posted:It's kinda great how often Canadian cities pop up in Gundam. I'm still kinda amazed that the finale of IBO's first season actually made it into Edmonton's local news. Granted, it's probably the only exciting thing that'll ever happen to Edmonton.
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Improbable Lobster posted:It's kinda great how often Canadian cities pop up in Gundam. I can only hope that Regina or Saskatoon will someday get destroyed as a result of a gundam battle.
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GM's counterattack was fun but I am unreasonably annoyed by the Psycho GM's head being the wrong color.
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Monaghan posted:I can only hope that Regina or Saskatoon will someday get destroyed as a result of a gundam battle. Considering my history in zone of the enders, I presume I would flatten the city if I gundam jacked, yes.
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Just saw the OVA, and I loved it. I'm even willing to overlook stuff like Reiji coming back because reasons because it reminded me that there are good things with the name Build Fighters on them. My only complaint is that it should've been at least an hour long. It felt kinda short.
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Aug 25, 2017 18:57
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What real world places have been featured in Gundam? Dublin, Montreal, Edmonton, ruins of Seattle, Sydney, Hong Kong, Odessa gets a mention and Ukraine is the scene of the big earth battle. Jaburo is built next to the Amazon river. Spain features in The Origin. I'm missing a good amount, I'm sure. It's still nice seeing a major franchise feature a more global approach to world building than the frequently Japan centric shows of other franchises.
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Aug 25, 2017 18:58
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There's also Dakar of course, from Zeta and Unicorn.
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Aug 25, 2017 19:00
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Still mystified at why Sei would decide to hide the Build Burning in a Dom and then hide that in the championship trophy. And also leave said trophy at school.
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Aug 25, 2017 20:56
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As best as I can guess, they were going for "Sei decides to fling a light into the future so someone else can enjoy Gunpla Battle just as much as he does". They just ran headlong into Try's insistence on being as unnecessarily convoluted as possible.
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Aug 25, 2017 21:11
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They should've explained that he put it there to hide it from the Gunpla Mafia
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Aug 25, 2017 21:17
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They've always been weird with what motivates Sei's character. Like even in season 1 they explain that the only reason Sei isn't able to compete on the Meijin's level in battle throughout most of the show is some repressed psychological fear of destroying gunpla or some nonsense instead of him just not being as naturally talented as his father or Reiji or whatever.
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AtheistMantis posted:Still mystified at why Sei would decide to hide the Build Burning in a Dom and then hide that in the championship trophy. And also leave said trophy at school. It had accomplished its purpose - he got to give it to Reiji and fight against him in one last, glorious battle. He basically bound all the happiest memories of his early years as a Gunpla Battler together and offered them to whoever else would take them.
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Darth Walrus posted:It had accomplished its purpose - he got to give it to Reiji and fight against him in one last, glorious battle. He basically bound all the happiest memories of his early years as a Gunpla Battler together and offered them to whoever else would take them. After completely redesigning and rebuilding every single part
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Guy Goodbody posted:After completely redesigning and rebuilding every single part He didn't redesign it, he stripped it down, giving whoever picked it up again the chance to shape it to their own fighting style. Notice how it went from the upgraded 'Star Burning' to the basic 'Build Burning'.
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Darth Walrus posted:He didn't redesign it, he stripped it down, giving whoever picked it up again the chance to shape it to their own fighting style. Notice how it went from the upgraded 'Star Burning' to the basic 'Build Burning'. That doesn't really make a lot of ton of sense with how Build Burning was written but to be honest nothing really does considering in Try BB was clearly "This is the prototype machine Sei made for Reiji that he regretted never getting to see used"
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The Build Burning is a completely different suit, isn't it? It's just an upgrade of the Star Burning Gundam, I thought.
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TFRazorsaw posted:The Build Burning is a completely different suit, isn't it? It's just an upgrade of the Star Burning Gundam, I thought. Nah, China actively tells them in Try that Build Burning was a machine Sei created for a friend. They're clearly supposed to be the same suit.
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The Star Burning is a WIP version of the Build Burning. You can more clearly see Sei's design flourishes (the weapon loadout, the references to the Shining, God, and mk-II sprinkled all over the suit) as opposed to the purposefully blank slate Build Burning, and he hadn't yet worked out how to properly integrate the clear parts into the frame yet. I'm still annoyed that the Build Burning, a machine with a potential limited only by the user's imagination, ended up in the hands of the most unimaginative person ever. EDIT: Doesn't look like the HG manual blurbs say much about it:   Hope for a MG if you really want to know the full story, I guess. BlitzBlast fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Aug 25, 2017 |
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Darth Walrus posted:He didn't redesign it, he stripped it down, giving whoever picked it up again the chance to shape it to their own fighting style. Notice how it went from the upgraded 'Star Burning' to the basic 'Build Burning'. They are completely different suits. They don't share a single part  
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There's apparently a new manga coming out next month called Moon Gundam Kidou Senshi Gundam Moon  or a gundam just continually doing 
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More UC who cares. Wake me up when we're back to AC.
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Eh there's probably a new AU in the works. They don't really overlap so much.
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That was pretty great considering they had to fit it into 30 minutes.
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that was pretty fun. i wish the fight choreography was better and more exciting, but at least the writing seemed like it was having a lot of fun
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I should watch a proper Gundam series again. Maybe Turn-A Gundam? The mustache looks ridiculous, but I hear the show itself is spectacular. Or IBO? I heard it starts good then goes down in a ball of flames.
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PMush Perfect posted:I should watch a proper Gundam series again. Maybe Turn-A Gundam? The mustache looks ridiculous, but I hear the show itself is spectacular. Or IBO? I heard it starts good then goes down in a ball of flames. IBO is great. The second season wanders a bit around the halfway mark, but the ending is pretty solid.
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PMush Perfect posted:I should watch a proper Gundam series again. Maybe Turn-A Gundam? The mustache looks ridiculous, but I hear the show itself is spectacular. Or IBO? I heard it starts good then goes down in a ball of flames. IBO has a weak ending to its first season and a controversial (and very dark) second season that addresses the problems of the first, but not in a conventionally fun way (among other things, the Imperial Japan allegory finally reaches World War II). It's a hell of a ride, and an absolutely top-tier Gundam AU, but it's not without its flaws (particularly the somewhat erratic pacing), and not without things that are not technically flaws, but are very much a matter of taste. Turn A is excellent, and you will learn to love the moustache.
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wrt Build burning/Star Burning: They are obviously 2 very different models kits in the real world version, but they are similar enough that the Build Burning could be a reworked/rebuild model after Sei and Reji trashed each-other's suits in their fight. IBO: IBO is a flawed show, and a show that sometimes sets up expectations and executes them in a unconventional way; but it is a good packages overall. I personally liked it a lot, but I don't mind flawed shows if I can see what they where going for, and I can easily see that with IBO. Top-notch MS designs as well.
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Darth Walrus posted:IBO has a weak ending to its first season and a controversial (and very dark) second season that addresses the problems of the first, but not in a conventionally fun way (among other things, the Imperial Japan allegory finally reaches World War II). It's a hell of a ride, and an absolutely top-tier Gundam AU, but it's not without its flaws (particularly the somewhat erratic pacing), and not without things that are not technically flaws, but are very much a matter of taste. Yeah, sounds about right on both counts. One thing I find interesting about the show's mistakes is how the weakness in the first finale played into expectations for the second season. The first season finale is most notable, in hindsight, as being the one time the show really flinches. Full on "Mu La Flaga is not a battleship" level flinch. Three supporting characters clearly killed, or at least maimed? No, they're fine! Everyone's fine. Even Gaelio was fine, under the mask. The show looked unwilling to off anyone who might be popular, which lead to a certain cynicism on the subject through the first half of season 2. ...And then the show started killing everyone. Came a bit less expected that way, I suppose.
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chiasaur11 posted:Yeah, sounds about right on both counts. One thing I find interesting about the show's mistakes is how the weakness in the first finale played into expectations for the second season. To be fair, in hindsight and in comparison with the rest of the season, it's entirely likely it was a last-second choice because they got a second season rather than something planned that way from the start.
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Alright, cool. Turn-A, then IBO, if only so that I can read these CIA documents. Sounds like a plan.
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Darth Walrus posted:IBO has a weak ending to its first season and a controversial (and very dark) second season that addresses the problems of the first, but not in a conventionally fun way (among other things, the Imperial Japan allegory finally reaches World War II). It's a hell of a ride, and an absolutely top-tier Gundam AU, but it's not without its flaws (particularly the somewhat erratic pacing), and not without things that are not technically flaws, but are very much a matter of taste. I'd have been willing to forgive season one's weak finale almost immediately undercutting it's own stakes for no good reason if the rest of the season had been good but season one's biggest sin to me is that there's 10 or so episodes making up the middle of the season that are just plain boring. The episodes covering their trip to Jupiter and back along with Dort are plodding and filled with cliches; the worst being several characters talking about lost siblings, immediately followed by the protagonists encountering those exact siblings. Dort has one or two cool moments, but is mostly boring. Once they get to Earth stuff starts to happen, but the journey to get there comes across as pointless filler for the most part and just plain dull regardless. By the time anything starts to happen I presume I'm supposed to be invested in the characters, but mostly I was just kind of wanting them to get on with it and didn't care what happened to who so long as something happened at all. I say that as someone who loves Turn-A by the way. It's not the fact there's a good few episodes with no fighting in that stretch that makes it boring, it's that none of the character interactions have any real meat and a lot of the developments that do happen are predictable like the maid being a spy, who dies, or just kind of stupid in a pointless way like McGillis' bird mask. IBO has a really strong opening set of episodes, but doesn't capitalize on that strength at all and the rest of the season was dull enough that I've never had any interest in the second season.
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tsob posted:I'd have been willing to forgive season one's weak finale almost immediately undercutting it's own stakes for no good reason if the rest of the season had been good but season one's biggest sin to me is that there's 10 or so episodes making up the middle of the season that are just plain boring. The episodes covering their trip to Jupiter and back along with Dort are plodding and filled with cliches; the worst being several characters talking about lost siblings, immediately followed by the protagonists encountering those exact siblings. Dort has one or two cool moments, but is mostly boring. Once they get to Earth stuff starts to happen, but the journey to get there comes across as pointless filler for the most part and just plain dull regardless. By the time anything starts to happen I presume I'm supposed to be invested in the characters, but mostly I was just kind of wanting them to get on with it and didn't care what happened to who so long as something happened at all. McGillis dressing up like a particularly lame sentai villain while preparing to backstab people who were utterly devoted to him anyway was pretty integral to his character, the plot, and the show's metacommentary elements. The whole dark joke of his character is that he's a broken manchild who's so good at projecting superficial competence that nobody believes what's right in front of them until it's far too late. You know, just like Char.
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The second season suffers from the same effect if not worse. it wastes a whooooole lot of time, to the point I would say you can reasonably jump in 5 or so episodes from the end and not actually have missed much in the way of character development and only a little in the way of plot. Things happen fairly breakneck for the last five episodes but it kind of drives home how little changes in the first 20 and unfortunately how relatively little any of the characters actually develop. They're making the same mistakes for the same reasons with the same responses until the very end which isn't the worst thing in the world but makes for a lot of plodding. A 1-season show with less cruft would have done a lot better before IBO. I genuinely believe you could trim IBO down to a 1-season show and not lose a lot. If/when they make movies of it I think it'll come across a lot better than 00/Age/SEED did in that department.
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