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Aug 25, 2017 22:36
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Intro thought: I do like the ideas of aliens talking about how weird our physiology is, but seriously, was that a fake alien version of Riker?
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Aug 25, 2017 22:36
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He had all this information for his cover story but they didn't bother to give him a better disguise?
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Aug 25, 2017 22:39
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Riker is a gray in area 51
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Aug 25, 2017 22:41
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And they had fingers !! AAAAAaaaahhhhhh
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Aug 25, 2017 22:44
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shadok posted:Yeah, I'm certainly not claiming my list is anything but personal and subjective. "Latent Image" is one I hesitated over because the premise is great but (to me) the execution just wasn't quite there, especially the resolution. On the other hand, I put "Thirty Days" on the list even though it's probably not rated by most people, I just really like it. you're on the verge of just listing every voyager episode.
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Aug 25, 2017 22:45
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OH poo poo I TOTALLY FORGOT TO PUT "MELD" ON THE LIST.
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It would be amazing if most of the episode is from the alien POV
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Aug 25, 2017 22:46
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Jeb! Repetition posted:It would be amazing if most of the episode is from the alien POV This is one of the most... TNG episodes of TNG.
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Aug 25, 2017 22:49
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Picard: "As you can see, we are physically quite different from Midichlorians, and I am prepared to prove it to you." Scientist woman: "I'd like that." Picard: whips out dick
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Aug 25, 2017 22:50
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shadok posted:This is one of the most... TNG episodes of TNG. My vote for TNG-est episode is Who Watches the Watchers
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Aug 25, 2017 22:51
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MillennialVulcan posted:you're on the verge of just listing every voyager episode. They made 172 episodes, I listed 27 that I thought were good and 18 that I thought were okay. I don't think I'm being too unreasonable.
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Aug 25, 2017 22:53
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Wow the federation puts a bunch of spies disguised as natives on planets, we really are classic aliens
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Aug 25, 2017 22:58
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This really is pure Star Trek
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Aug 25, 2017 23:00
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Picard: "As you can see, we are physically quite different from Midichlorians, and I am prepared to prove it to you." Hahahaha, this is gonna be great to look back at.
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Aug 25, 2017 23:02
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MorgaineDax posted:Hahahaha, this is gonna be great to look back at. Look if anybody whips their dick out it's going to be Riker... or Data or Worf or Wesley or Miles or yeah I guess Picard... anybody but Geordi, really
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Aug 25, 2017 23:07
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The Bloop posted:Look if anybody whips their dick out it's going to be Riker... or Data or Worf or Wesley or Miles or yeah I guess Picard... anybody but Geordi, really That's not fair, it wasn't like Tasha yar ever...  Oh, right, nevermind.
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Aug 25, 2017 23:12
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 Lol I knew it
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Aug 25, 2017 23:15
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Jeb! Repetition posted:
Classic. lmao
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Aug 25, 2017 23:16
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Jeb! Repetition posted:
That scene is Peak Riker. Anbo-jyitsu is a close second. Also, Frasier's gonna be mad whenever he gets out of that time distortion.
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Aug 25, 2017 23:16
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The mustache glasses alien is a psycho
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Aug 25, 2017 23:29
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C'mon Picard, take her, do it
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Aug 25, 2017 23:35
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Holy heck is that a new character being introduced or will they forget about her
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Aug 25, 2017 23:35
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Jeb! Repetition posted:
Alien Bebe Neuwirth is still Bebe Neuwirth.
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Aug 25, 2017 23:35
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Holy heck is that a new character being introduced or will they forget about her In your heart you already know the answer
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Aug 25, 2017 23:37
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I think that was my favorite Prime Directive episode.
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Aug 25, 2017 23:39
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I wish Trek had more episodes like this with less developed people giving an outside perspective on the Federation. Voyager tried it a couple of times.
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Aug 25, 2017 23:46
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Jeb! Repetition posted:The mustache glasses alien is a psycho If you've ever seen the British series Green Wing, he makes me think of Alan Statham.
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Aug 25, 2017 23:51
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Marc Scott Zicree is so great at getting Star Trek while also writing totally unique episodes.
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Aug 25, 2017 23:58
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You know as an adult the episode where Dax meets its wife all over again is much more compelling. To be honest the idea isn't science fiction at all; first you apologize for what you did wrong, then you start talking... falling back into an old relationship is extremely tempting. As a kid I didn't really get it but the actors convincingly put on the casual demeanor and confusing tension of hanging out with an ex. When I was 13 I thought this was a dumb episode and Terry Farrell kissing the guest star was the only bright point. The idea that they're gonna like die if they hook up, if it's supposed to be a metaphor, is not sufficiently explored. It's cheap and just exists to provide tension when the writers should be trying to convey a life lesson. Having the two separated by Tobin's sudden death kind of confuses the metaphor as well. Is this a parable about not falling into comfortable traps, or is it about ethics in space slug romanticism? The script can't decide. Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Aug 26, 2017 |
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Aug 26, 2017 00:14
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Arglebargle III posted:You know as an adult the episode where Dax meets its wife all over again is much more compelling. To be honest the idea isn't science fiction at all; first you apologize for what you did wrong, then you start talking... falling back into an old relationship is extremely tempting. As a kid I didn't really get it but the actors convincingly put on the casual demeanor and confusing tension of hanging out with an ex. The acting in that episode really was really good in an understated way. It probably helped the actors that they were doing something on TV that was kind of taboo at the time, but I really feel like there was a unique emotional undercurrent to that one that was different than a lot of Star Treks and probably Terry Ferrell's best performance on that show.
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Aug 26, 2017 00:19
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The scenes between the Farrell and Thompson are good, but everybody else's scenes are dragged down by this dumb exile premise. Sisko and Bashir would probably have some good advice (and it's nice to see that Bashir is able to be a friend to Dax here, that shows character growth) about this situation, but they end up talking about this whole exile thing. The meat of the episode is in the experience of meeting an old flame unexpectedly in classic Star Trek morality play style, but the show doesn't have time to engage with it. A lot of wasted potential. As Gul Dukat would say, "That's sad." And then there's this fucken technobabble B plot that has zero appeal. They're gonna do science, something's gonna go wrong and nobody gives a gently caress. Worf has nothing to do this episode so he's in charge of the science mission for some reason, on the Defiant for some reason, when we've just established two episodes ago that the Defiant has only the most minimal science facilities and Worf is the Strategic Operations officer for the system. And this naturalistic performance that was so good in the first half becomes the two clutching each other mewing "I'll never lose you again." The writers seriously dropped the ball in the second act. Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Aug 26, 2017 |
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Aug 26, 2017 00:28
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Ugh okay the dialog gets really bad. "I can't live without you" level poo poo. It's like whoever wrote the first half skipped the next three writing sessions for a hot date with his ex and left Barclay to write the rest of the episode.
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Aug 26, 2017 00:36
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Lol random crewman gets a name and is hit in the face with an explosion literally three seconds later.
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Aug 26, 2017 00:50
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I seem to recall that was supposed to be one of the (in-universe) reasons they use the Stardate system, is to help account for time fuckery. Not that it matters much, but there was a DS9 novel that offers a technobabble explanation of stardates. Basically it's like GMT/UTC, where the stardate is the time at a common reference point and you can work it out based on your local time and the distance to the reference point. What is this reference point you ask? Well, it's the centre of a hypersphere with hundreds of millions of dimensions, each representing the location of a planet, ship or other object. Since each object is on the surface of this imaginary sphere, they always have the same distance to the centre of the sphere. One thing mentioned in that explanation (but never in the show) is that stardates can run backward due to relativity and other fuckery, and this is normal and accounted for. I dunno, seems plausible to me on the surface. No idea how the maths works out though.
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Aug 26, 2017 00:52
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I just consider the first digit of stardates from TOS to be the year of the mission. It works until you factor in TAS and Star Trek Continues stardates, and it's a lot better than a lot of half-assed Traknobabble.
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Aug 26, 2017 01:52
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MillennialVulcan posted:you're on the verge of just listing every voyager episode. Dude he mentioned like 20ish episodes. That's like one season. Out of 7. Ugh Voyager had a lot of crap episodes. Compare that to DS9 where it's like 20ish episodes are the ones to NOT watch.
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Aug 26, 2017 01:54
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mastershakeman posted:so what's worth watching, year of hell and a few of the species whatsists and not much else? BRIDE OF CHAOTICA
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Aug 26, 2017 01:59
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Picard: "As you can see, we are physically quite different from Midichlorians, and I am prepared to prove it to you." He learned from the Earth's greatest leader of the 20th century, LBJ. I used to think the crazy glasses alien was Kurtwood Smith. I also used to get that episode and the one where Riker is held in the alien prison and is going nuts. Which is one of my least favorite TNG episodes. I think i'd rather watch...well, not SubRosa, or Up the Long Ladder, or Matter of Honour. Maybe the Lwaxana episode where she and Alexander hang out.
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Aug 26, 2017 02:28
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Cojawfee posted:At the very beginning of the episode, Data suggests they sync the chronometer to Starbase 34. Also, they were really bad trying to trick themselves. When they wanted to go back to that system to check it out, I would have Data just say "We saw something very terrible there, we left and decided to wipe everyone's memories. You ordered me to make sure we never returned." It's a really good episode but I kinda think the solution at the end should've been "we'll never make a perfect cover for this, sorry but you've been discovered, trust us to respect your rights and maintain your privacy" with all the effort they went through to do it the aliens' way as the starting point of that trust. It rubs me the wrong way that the lesson isn't coming to a better mutual understanding moving forward but doubling down on xenophobia and conspiracy to literally turn back the clock.
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Aug 26, 2017 02:41
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twistedmentat posted:He learned from the Earth's greatest leader of the 20th century, LBJ. That episode feels very run-of-the-mill, which is odd given the unique (for TNG) premise.
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Aug 26, 2017 02:50
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