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falz posted:None because it's a terrible console. </opinion> Wow I can't tell the difference it's like someone holding up Earthbound and an NES game they're just too similar.
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Rollersnake posted:I like Final Fantasy Adventure and Sword of Mana and Adventures of Mana. Please explain your affection for sword of mana It was the first game I ever regretted purchasing
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Aug 25, 2017 18:34
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^^^ The only game I've ever regretted purchasing was Big Sky Trooper for the SNES. I got it used from ALCO (knockoff Wal-mart) when I was a teenager and really really tried to enjoy it but I just couldn't and didn't get very far into it. I've since heard it's cooler than I thought so I may give it a whirl again. The weekend before last we hit up a church sale to score some baby clothes for our 8 month old when out of nowhere...hey video games! It isn't exactly Earthbound or Ducktales 2 but hey it's been a while since I've scored anything out in the wild. Grand total was less than TWO DOLLARS and I've already gotten some fun out of these. 1001 Touch Games was still sealed, and surprisingly has some decent games on it like Solitaire. 
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Aug 25, 2017 18:35
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Did anyone besides for me love Quest 64?
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Aug 25, 2017 18:43
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Tyson Tomko posted:The weekend before last we hit up a church sale to score some baby clothes for our 8 month old when out of nowhere...hey video games! I'm quite fond of Sonic Rush, though you're better off hunting down a copy of Super Scribblenauts rather than playing the original. The original Scribblenauts has no button controls for movement.
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Aug 25, 2017 18:48
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Meteos is a pretty good puzzle game.
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Aug 25, 2017 18:59
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mlb 2k9 for the wii is one of the worst sports games of all time
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Aug 25, 2017 19:00
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Nephzinho posted:Did anyone besides for me love Quest 64?
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Aug 25, 2017 19:14
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I keep forgetting about the Secret of Mana games that didn't come over, specifically the third one that is lauded. Just grabbed down the patch for it and I have to play this over my vacation.
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Ostentatious posted:mlb 2k9 for the wii is one of the worst sports games of all time Wii sports games really seem to be awesome or terrible, so here's hoping it's at least so terrible it's fun! The disc is in perfect shape so at least it has that going for it. Neddy Seagoon posted:I'm quite fond of Sonic Rush, though you're better off hunting down a copy of Super Scribblenauts rather than playing the original. The original Scribblenauts has no button controls for movement. I've only ever played the original Scribblenauts so that's good info to know! Zamujasa posted:Meteos is a pretty good puzzle game. This is one of those games I've been meaning to play for yearsssss but never gotten around to doing it. My DS flash cart rules (still use my Phat red DS for it) but there really is something about owning the physical game that just makes me want to try it out way way more. Also since I haven't posted for a while I wanted to share this pic I took forever ago (yes I've had this picture since last Christmas waiting to post it)  Am I the only one who immediately thought that man, that nutcracker/tree could be a Mario RPG enemy?!
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Today I learned the canon names for the heroes are Randi, Primm, and Popoi. Is this a new thing? I don't recall that being in the SNES manual. Last time I played SoM I named them Boy, Girl, and Sprite, respectively. Because 
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Aug 25, 2017 23:03
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Tyson Tomko posted:This is one of those games I've been meaning to play for yearsssss but never gotten around to doing it. My DS flash cart rules (still use my Phat red DS for it) but there really is something about owning the physical game that just makes me want to try it out way way more. My favorite part is honestly just that the story mode is a bunch of branching paths and it's actually worth going through to each of the different ends because they're all different. That and the comedy mode. You can use the d-pad and buttons if you want 
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al-azad posted:nudge nudge I can't play SoM because I actually played through SD3 first and couldn't bring myself to roll back to the inferior gameplay. I played a little bit of LoM but didn't much like the "make your world map" thing it had going on. Mostly because I didn't fully understand it. I should give it another shot.
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Mak0rz posted:I played a little bit of LoM but didn't much like the "make your world map" thing it had going on. Mostly because I didn't fully understand it. I should give it another shot. It's simple. You put an artifact down somewhere to make an adorable, little world. There's a handful of quests that require some planning for the placements but don't bother unless you want to new game+. Also the artifacts are pretty much all given as quest rewards and there's always a new quest every time you enter somewhere for the first time. P.S. talk to your cactus after completing quests.
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Aug 25, 2017 23:40
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Mak0rz posted:I can't play SoM because I actually played through SD3 first and couldn't bring myself to roll back to the inferior gameplay. The issue with Legend of Mana is that it's one of those "you get out what you put in" games. You don't have to worry about world map placement, unlocking new skills, or crafting and just cruise control through an unremarkably easy game that will let you eventually beat it despite missing half the major plot threads. But if you dive in deep there's a lot of content to explore. I think someone got cold feet here and toned the difficulty down because it gives you all these ways to overcome obstacles that are never a challenge. But LoM basically informed my taste in tabletop RPGs and whenever I DM a game I hand the players an empty map with a single town in the middle and say "where are you guys heading?"
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Ofecks posted:Today I learned the canon names for the heroes are Randi, Primm, and Popoi. Is this a new thing? I don't recall that being in the SNES manual. It's been their canon names for a while, but I don't think they put that in the English manual, no.
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Nephzinho posted:Did anyone besides for me love Quest 64? For some reason I've actually played and beaten this game... Three times. I hate that volcano area.
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Tyson Tomko posted:I've only ever played the original Scribblenauts so that's good info to know! Scribblenauts is one of those things I find way better in concept than execution. In a perverse way, the fact that it's so open ended made the designers narrow the puzzles and interactions down a lot. I try to come up with really wacky solutions, but since my logic often isn't implemented (and let's be fair, I don't even implement my own logic when I'm programming) I typically wind up going, "Fine, just give me the obvious choice." One of the weirder entries in the series is the DC comics based one since they put just about everybody in the game. When they include the Inferior 5, Ultra the Multialien, and Arms Fall Off Lad (always an Internet favorite) then you know that somebody had fun making it. Shame actually playing it isn't as fun.
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Not a Children posted:Please explain your affection for sword of mana I'll be honest—I never finished it because there was something wrong with my cart and it froze quite a bit (or else the game was just like that), so if it got really poo poo toward the end, I never got to experience that. Aside from that and some of the sidequests being stuff you couldn't possibly figure out without a guide, I didn't have any problems with it. I liked how it wasn't a straight remake and fleshed out/put a new spin on characters and events from the original game. I'd much rather play it again than Legend of Mana. Rollersnake fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Aug 26, 2017 |
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Rollersnake posted:I'll be honest—I never finished it because there was something wrong with my cart and it froze quite a bit (or else the game was just like that), so if it got really poo poo toward the end, I never got to experience that. Aside from that and some of the sidequests being stuff you couldn't possibly figure out without a guide, I didn't have any problems with it. I liked how it wasn't a straight remake and fleshed out/put a new spin on characters and events from the original game. I'd much rather play it again than Legend of Mana. Eugh, that fleshing out was the problem. It still retains a story as deep as a Game Boy game could be but adds in more dialog and cutscenes. There's no way you can make a compelling narrative with a character named DARK LORD. I don't know how anyone could put it above Legend, a game that's just better in literally every field but hey diff'rent strokes.
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Legend of Mana had a neat art style and I liked the world map design part (although the mechanics of it were really opaque), but it played horribly. It was trivially easy, and even if it weren't, the gameplay just felt stiff and awkward, like the designers weren't entirely sure whether they wanted to make an action RPG or not. It's been a long time since I played it, but I remember the dungeon design being extremely lazy too—just bland hallways filled with repetitious enemy encounters you steamrolled through by holding forward and mindlessly tapping the attack button. There was no incentive to using special moves or magic except wanting to see the animation, I guess. Couple that with the disproportionate, irrational hatred for mediocre/flawed games that comes with being a teenager and... yeah. 0/10, this game is garbage, ruined my life and I'll hate it forever. The way people who hated Chrono Cross felt about Chrono Cross—that's how I felt about Legend of Mana.
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I also remember the dungeons in Legend of Mana being basically straight lines. Is that accurate?
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Nephzinho posted:Did anyone besides for me love Quest 64? quest 64 is an objectively poo poo game that i still inexplicably liked. i even had much better jrpgs on my snes and ps1, so i dunno wtf. like i can list out all the reasons it's terrible but also still like playing it. kinda like sonic adventure.
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Forgive me if this has already been talked about, it's been a really long time since I kept up with this thread. Earlier this month someone was releasing a Gamecube HDMI cable but apparently the thing is shoddily made and can fry your GC if the adapter is bumped. The guy is giving people "upgrades" to a fixed version for free, but some people are also saying he's trying to charge them money to get the new, non-volatile version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvd-73clV6E After someone accidentally pulls the GC down you can see the cable short before it even hit the ground. I don't feel like digging everything up but there's more in the comments and on some other peoples' channel. The whole thing is very not kosher and sounds like an amateur electronics guy bit off more than he could chew and sold these things without proper isolation or something.
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Safari Disco Lion posted:Forgive me if this has already been talked about, it's been a really long time since I kept up with this thread. Earlier this month someone was releasing a Gamecube HDMI cable but apparently the thing is shoddily made and can fry your GC if the adapter is bumped. The guy is giving people "upgrades" to a fixed version for free, but some people are also saying he's trying to charge them money to get the new, non-volatile version. I would guess since the sheath of the connector was 3D printed, it lacked the rigidity the official component cable's metal connector provides. Plus as component cable owners may know, it's a snug as hell fit.
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Rollersnake posted:Couple that with the disproportionate, irrational hatred for mediocre/flawed games that comes with being a teenager and... yeah. 0/10, this game is garbage, ruined my life and I'll hate it forever. The way people who hated Chrono Cross felt about Chrono Cross—that's how I felt about Legend of Mana. I like to think of that era of Square as "the hubris period" because they made so much terrible, goodwill poisoning poo poo while firmly believing they could do nothing wrong. Even if they didn't make Spirits Within, they would have run themselves down eventually.
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Despite my distaste for Legend of Mana, I really miss that era of Square. It was exciting at the time to have the Final Fantasy company coming out with a space shooter, fighting games, survival horror, a kart racer... And there's honestly not anything from that era I'd call terrible goodwill-poisoning poo poo besides Legend of Mana, The Bouncer, and I guess Chrono Cross if you were a rabid Chrono Trigger fan dying for a sequel. (When I played Chrono Cross for the first time, it was before I played ChronoTrigger. When I played it the second time, it was after I played Radical Dreamers. So I've always kinda loved it in spite of its flaws.) Edit: And Final Fantasy VIII, which I'd apparently almost blocked out of my memory. I'd rather give Legend of Mana another shot. Rollersnake fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Aug 26, 2017 |
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It really sucked having Square go from everything they released for the SNES was great to a masterpiece, to only a year later roughly half the stuff they put out was poo poo on the PS1. Anyone else remember The Bouncer 
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:Anyone else remember The Bouncer I really wanted The Bouncer because I was a huge Square fanboy and was sure it couldn't be that bad. Then I borrowed it from a friend and beat it in an afternoon. After that I no longer wanted The Bouncer.
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Aug 26, 2017 13:26
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The Bouncer is cool now that it's not a 60 dollar game
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It's short as hell but the bouncer is fine.
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it'd be fine if the company that made Sonic Blast Man made it or something. Not from the company that brought us Chrono Trigger.
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Rollersnake posted:Legend of Mana had a neat art style and I liked the world map design part (although the mechanics of it were really opaque), but it played horribly. It was trivially easy, and even if it weren't, the gameplay just felt stiff and awkward, like the designers weren't entirely sure whether they wanted to make an action RPG or not. It's been a long time since I played it, but I remember the dungeon design being extremely lazy too—just bland hallways filled with repetitious enemy encounters you steamrolled through by holding forward and mindlessly tapping the attack button. There was no incentive to using special moves or magic except wanting to see the animation, I guess. LoM is an actual action game though. Replaying SoM I don't even know what they were trying to design as enemy hit calculations happen one at a time and an on a timer so you whack a dude a couple times and it just sort of gyrates until suddenly numbers pop above its head. Bosses are limp and ineffectual, either comboing screen freezing magic one after the other unless you the player does the same to it. I can't say SoM is any different, it's just as easy except it lacks any visual flair or feedback that comes from a game that actually has hitboxes and stun frames. SD3 kind of improved on it but then decided to run away with the difficulty and actively gently caress you for character upgrade choices. Oh, you picked the wrong upgraded class? Looks like your healer is permanently not a healer! Neither of those games really had "dungeons" either. Move around three or four screens, a couple dead ends with an enemy that spawns, use a whip to cross a ravine. I can at least respect Sword for trying some puzzles but these aren't dungeon crawlers.
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Mak0rz posted:I also remember the dungeons in Legend of Mana being basically straight lines. Is that accurate? Pretty much. Also, you can only attack on a horizontal line, so it essentially plays like an open-ended magic-fueled brawler. If you approach it from that direction (rather than from the "Secret of Mana sequel" direction) it works pretty well.
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:it'd be fine if the company that made Sonic Blast Man made it or something. Not from the company that brought us Chrono Trigger. They're also the company that gave us Racing Lagoon, SaGa Frontier and a lot of other lovely games before that point. At no point in Square's life were they some sort of infallible company.
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kirbysuperstar posted:They're also the company that gave us Racing Lagoon, SaGa Frontier and a lot of other lovely games before that point. At no point in Square's life were they some sort of infallible company. My point was kind of that, at least on the SNES, they had a perfect track record. You could walk to the store and just buy a Square game knowing it was going to be good. I have the same beef with Nintendo after they released pure snooze-fests like New Super Mario Bros (the first one on the DS, holy crap what a forgettable game), Yoshi's Island DS, and Metroid Other M. As for Secret of Mana, I actually found it's terrible hit detection kind of endearing. Like I got so used to it that I just played the game differently and compensated for it and it barely felt glitchy after that. Like I would yell at my friend if he wasted a charge attack on a boss while it still had the HP loss above its head.
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A lot of that is that Square themselves didn't actually release a ton of SNES games, particularly in the US. The Playstation era was Square experimenting and they had about as many hits or at least interesting games as they did complete misses and bad games.
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I haven't played Racing Lagoon but there isn't a PS1 era Square game I wouldn't play for at least a few hours.
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al-azad posted:I haven't played Racing Lagoon but there isn't a PS1 era Square game I wouldn't play for at least a few hours. Well that's more than enough time to finish Parasite Eve. 
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