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Niton posted:It's been known / expected since before landfall that the Houston area could see 2ft+ of rain. The projections bringing it from 2 to 5 are fairly new, though, but.. this flooding has been "just" the 2 feet of rain that was originally expected. We got 30" in 24 hours
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Wark Say posted:I wonder how many people in his cabinet are constantly either going I just assume they're too busy salivating over destroying the country's infrastructure in their own respective domains to even care about Trump.
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Just for non Houston goons that's a place where the road is undercut so it's below ground level. So not that impressive but those spots kill somebody every year when it rains. Mostly idiots though.
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Locals received conflicting messages from state, local, and federal authorities. I imagine that it contributed to some of the confusion about whether it was necessary to evacuate. Also, the hurricane itself didn't become a major national headline until the night before. If you were watching CNN, you might have heard about it only in passing.
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Lightning Knight posted:I imagine there's more "how much money can I shove into this briefcase in between tweets?" Annointed posted:I just assume they're too busy salivating over destroying the country's infrastructure in their own respective domains to even care about Trump.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Houston wasn't supposed to get hit this hard, right? My coworker's wife lives in Houston and he said they were just expecting moderate rain. Weather forecasting is still super hard and is always just a list of possibilities and percentages. In living memory weather forecasting was outright bad, and I think people generally sort of take the "the truth is in the middle" about weather reports. That it won't be nothing and won't be the end of the world, and generally most people in most of the possible tracks are right, but one track has to end up being the real one. Like remember this from a few days ago:  Until right before the storm is actually there the answer to "how bad will the storm be in X location" is always "it's hard to say". Owlofcreamcheese fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Aug 27, 2017 |
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Wark Say posted:But hasn't Trump (not even the Trump administration; Trump himself) hindered even that? They're getting a better opportunity under Trump than they ever would've under Hillary.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Houston wasn't supposed to get hit this hard, right? My coworker's wife lives in Houston and he said they were just expecting moderate rain. Looks like your coworker and his family are some kind of oblivious idiots.
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I don't understand why Harvey isn't the top story everywhere, everyone's talking about the fight. Reminds me of when most of Missouri was underwater a few months back, you wouldn't have even known that was happening unless you lived there or knew someone there. At least this is trending.
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It'll be fine the president said everything is going well!
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Those roadways are dug below sea level so it's not as bad as it looks, but yeah. This is bad.
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Extensive Vamping posted:I don't understand why Harvey isn't the top story everywhere, everyone's talking about the fight. Reminds me of when most of Missouri was underwater a few months back, you wouldn't have even known that was happening unless you lived there or knew someone there. At least this is trending. Major fights between a black guy and a white guy tend to be a proxy for racial tension. "Oh god please don't blame me for the bungled response"
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Reminder: https://www.texastribune.org/2017/08/25/officials-send-texans-mixed-messages-hurricane-evacuations/ Ahead of Hurricane Harvey, officials send Texans mixed messages on evacuations
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I do think it's entirely possibly that Trump manages a not-terrible job at this, or at least the appearance of one. Why? Because it's part of the presidential narrative. Like, coming into office doing This Stuff was probably just about the only thing he had any potential passion for (besides just being in charge.) The fact that he's spent so much time deconstructing the institutions he would need to put into play to actually help much also makes me pretty drat dubious he'll accomplish anything that an actually-good president couldn't do a thousand times better but I can see a world where he comes out of this with an approval bump just because he acts presidential for a bit. E: yeah, I dunno that he's going to come out smelling like roses but I bet something like 5-10 point bump if he actually makes an effort. Here's a livestream, fwiw. The reporter is in the process of getting a trucker's life saved. She literally just flagged down a police boat passing by. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWuk5BgKUO8 NmareBfly fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Aug 27, 2017 |
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Seriously will there ever be a point where he will shut up about his election win. Why does that matter so much to him?
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Xae posted:And also what prevent high density development in the first place. Zoning laws are virtually never used for this purpose because when that's the political goal you can just not have any zoning regs. In the absence of zoning laws, developers almost universally create low-density suburban and non-mixed use commercial, along with monstrously inefficient crud like service road systems. Even when a developer goes for higher density construction, ad hoc NIMBY opposition is what sinks it, not zoning laws.
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Extensive Vamping posted:I don't understand why Harvey isn't the top story everywhere, everyone's talking about the fight. Reminds me of when most of Missouri was underwater a few months back, you wouldn't have even known that was happening unless you lived there or knew someone there. At least this is trending.  ). You know how it goes.
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Can people in this thread please stop saying that things don't 'phase' people? (I.e. saying mcgregor's punches 'didn't phase' mayweather) When you're talking about not being bothered it's faze. Faze/fazing/fazed. I realise there are far more important things going on re: Trump/Harvey but this seriously drives me nuts
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Electric Phantasm posted:Seriously will there ever be a point where he will shut up about his election win. Why does that matter so much to him? What else does he have?
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Waffles Inc. posted:He will absolutely get a bump because there's no god or hope and we're all hosed Good? what the gently caress is wrong with you? You should hope he does a great job and no one dies and nothing bad happens. Trump can lower his own score with his own crises that he pulls out of no where, we don't need to root for people to die to get his score down when he is so good at that on his own.
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cochise posted:His administration already said they plan to head down there this week to survey the damage. Do they not understand that the storm will still be in the area? Rescue efforts will be ongoing and his dumbass will hamper them even more because of security concerns. I hope Gov. Abbott tells Trump to go gently caress himself and not enter the state. I hope he goes down there his helicopter gets struck by lightning and he drowns
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Shot: https://twitter.com/DWCBC/status/897934020566241280 Chasers https://twitter.com/WCPO/status/901553973517324289 https://twitter.com/wretchedrefuse0/status/901629453649969152 It was pointed out in the other thread that due to his charges, he will be unable to vote for Trump in 2020.
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Adam Vegas posted:Can people in this thread please stop saying that things don't 'phase' people? (I.e. saying mcgregor's punches 'didn't phase' mayweather) we've reached peak goon
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Good? what the gently caress is wrong with you? You should hope he does a great job and no one dies and nothing bad happens. Trump can lower his own score with his own crises that he pulls out of no where, we don't need to root for people to die to get his score down when he is so good at that on his own. Waffles Inc. isn't saying they expect Trump to do a good job, they're saying they expect Trump to do a bad job but not suffer for it in the polls because he's at least "acting presidential."
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Electric Phantasm posted:Seriously will there ever be a point where he will shut up about his election win. Why does that matter so much to him? Because he's a narcissist who lives only to win for the adulation and praise it gets him. He won the election. He hasn't won much of anything else since then.
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skylined! posted:we've reached peak goon Man I am picky and goony as gently caress about words and I will fully cop to that, no worries there
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Pakled posted:Waffles Inc. isn't saying they expect Trump to do a good job, they're saying they expect Trump to do a bad job but not suffer for it in the polls because he's at least "acting presidential." It's this But to elaborate further, he'll get credit simply for tweeting and doing nothing else, and even worse than that, some part of his twisted loving brain is going to think he actually is helping just by tweeting
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QuoProQuid posted:Also, the hurricane itself didn't become a major national headline until the night before. If you were watching CNN, you might have heard about it only in passing.
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"Toe" the line, like you're stepping up to the start of a race and getting every inch you can. What the gently caress does 'tow the line' mean?
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NmareBfly posted:"Toe" the line, like you're stepping up to the start of a race and getting every inch you can. What the gently caress does 'tow the line' mean? Don't get me started on "hard road to hoe".
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NmareBfly posted:"Toe" the line, like you're stepping up to the start of a race and getting every inch you can. What the gently caress does 'tow the line' mean?
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NmareBfly posted:I do think it's entirely possibly that Trump manages a not-terrible job at this, or at least the appearance of one. Why? Because it's part of the presidential narrative. Like, coming into office doing This Stuff was probably just about the only thing he had any potential passion for (besides just being in charge.) You sweet summer child. Trump is a clinical narcissist who is literally addicted to adulation. Trump will make this situation about himself, hamper/impair any serious response, and then blame the Deep State for intentionally sabotaging the response to make him look bad. Make no mistake, even Obama would be incredibly hard pressed to handle this situation competently. Texas has spent the past 30 years slowly starving all of its non-vital infrastructure of funds and outside of the areas that commerce depends on heavily everything in Texas is running at a fractional capacity. Massively complicating this is the idiotic libertarians running many Texas localities that have no psychological capacity for dealing with an actual disaster, resulting in evacuation orders not being issued and many more people being trapped in the disaster area than really should be. On top of all that Texas has absurdly loose regulations w/r/t oil production and many of those oil facilities are in no way capable of handling this- there will be areas where the flood waters are turned into toxic (and potentially flammable) sludge by massive leaks of petroleum products. This is very likely the end of Houston as a major metropolitan area and hub of commerce (at the very least it is a several years pause in that), and its is going to deal a massive blow to the American economy once the reality of how much of our domestic oil production has been destroyed finally sets in.
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