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JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

gently caress

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C2C - 2.0
May 14, 2006

Dubs In The Key Of Life


Lipstick Apathy

Discussion Quorum posted:

Not hearing a lot. Was a tornado yesterday but it just tore up a business. Bayous and creeks are either near or over the banks but that's basically everywhere at this point. Southeast Houston seems to have gotten the worst of the turbo-loving so far, though.


No, I think that is closer to the Galleria. Post Oak runs N-S through there. All of I-10 west of downtown is referred to as the Katy Freeway. We have some friends out there, I'll see if I can get ahold of any.

edit: also a lot of the exits/crossovers around the major freeways cut below ground level

Thanks!!!!

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014



god drat

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

JawKnee posted:

gently caress

Jesus.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

I've seen four separate military convoys moving south in Michigan today, the whole country must be mobilizing.

C2C - 2.0
May 14, 2006

Dubs In The Key Of Life


Lipstick Apathy

farraday posted:

I don't know Katy but these videos may be useful to you.

Yep, that's Katy. Thanks for posting

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011
Just remember how many cities along the east coast are ill-prepared for a hurricane. How many could one day be in a similar situation.

For example, only a month ago WaPo published an article describing how Tampa Bay relies on hope that a hurricane won't ever hit even as it continues to expand development: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/health/environment/tampa-bay-climate-change/

quote:

By a stroke of gambler’s luck, Tampa Bay hasn’t suffered a direct hit from a hurricane as powerful as a category 3 or higher in nearly a century. Tampa has doubled down on a bet that another won’t strike anytime soon, investing billions of dollars in high-rise condominiums along the waterfront and shipping port upgrades and expanding a hospital on an island in the middle of the bay to make it one of the largest in the state.

Once-sleepy St. Petersburg has gradually followed suit, adorning its downtown coast with high-rise condominiums, new shops and hotels. The city is in the final stages of a plan to build a $45 million pier as a major attraction that would extend out into the bay.

Worried that area leaders weren’t adequately focused on the downside of living in a tropic, the Tampa Bay Regional Planning Council reminded them of the risks by simulating a worst-case scenario hurricane, a category 5 with winds exceeding 156 mph, to demonstrate what would happen if it entered the Gulf of Mexico and turned their way.

The fictitious Phoenix hurricane scenario projects that wind damage would destroy nearly half a million homes and businesses. About 2 million residents would require medical treatment, and the estimated death toll, more than 2,000, would top the number of people who perished from Hurricane Katrina in Louisiana and Mississippi.

Florida’s most densely populated county, Pinellas, could be sliced in half by a wave of water. The low-lying county of about a million is growing so fast that there’s no land left to develop, and main roads and an interstate connecting it to Tampa get clogged with traffic even on a clear day.

“If a hurricane 4 or 5 hit us,” St. Petersburg City Council Chairman Darden Rice said, referring to the two highest category storms, “there’s no doubt about it. The plan is you’d better get out of Dodge.”

Tampa Mayor Bob Buckhorn’s warning was even starker. Standing outside City Hall last year, he described what would happen if a hurricane as small as a category 3 with 110 mph to 130 mph winds hit downtown.

“Where you’re standing now would be 15 feet under water,” he said.

Video simulations of hurricanes that strafed Florida but missed Tampa Bay look like an epic game of dodgeball.

“It’s like we’re in this sweet spot. It’s like we’re blessed somehow, protected,” said Allison Yeh, a planner for Hillsborough County in Tampa.

The last direct hit from a category 3 in 1921 left the area in ruins, but few people lived there then. A single death was recorded.

Now, with 4 million residents and gleaming new infrastructure, the stakes are higher, and Yeh and her fellow planners are wary. They know a major hurricane like one of several that barely missed the bay in recent years would have a devastating effect.

There are few hurricane-proof buildings in the bay area. One is a gallery, the Salvador Dali Museum in downtown St. Petersburg with 18-inch-thick concrete walls and pressured glass supported by steel frames that could withstand anything the aforementioned storms could dish out. The building supervisor could stand at the windows and watch a hurricane pass as though it were on the Weather Channel.

The museum is better protected than one of the largest hospitals in the state, Tampa General, which sits on Davis Island, a spit of earth that was dredged from muck at the bottom of the bay a few years after the last hurricane hit. Buckhorn said a category 3 hurricane would level the island’s houses, including his own.

Tampa General has a thorough evacuation plan, indoor generators that can supply energy for several days, and safe floors with reinforced walls and windows.

But parts of two bridges that lead to and from the island would be cut off by floodwaters, a concern of officials in spite of assurances by the hospital’s managers that there’s a contingency for that, too.

Floridians view hurricanes with the same bravado of Oklahomans who face tornadoes and Californians who brave earthquakes and wildfire: They come with the territory, a fact of life in a tropic, they say.

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches

eviltastic posted:

I asked a buddy in Houston right now he suggested the Houston Food Bank, as a bunch of people are gonna be newly homeless and need food.

He said we'd likely hear about other local charities in the coming days.

He followed up with an article about Texas food banks and what you can do to help or to get help: http://www.houstonpress.com/restaurants/texas-food-banks-mobilize-for-hurricane-harvey-how-you-can-help-9735249

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

FourLeaf posted:

Just remember how many cities along the east coast are ill-prepared for a hurricane. How many could one day be in a similar situation.

For example, only a month ago WaPo published an article describing how Tampa Bay relies on hope that a hurricane won't ever hit even as it continues to expand development: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/health/environment/tampa-bay-climate-change/

Jesus. As much as I hate New Tampa, I love Pinellas. Would be a disaster and almost certainly will happen in my lifetime.

Canned Sunshine
Nov 20, 2005

CAUTION: POST QUALITY UNDER CONSTRUCTION



FourLeaf posted:

Just remember how many cities along the east coast are ill-prepared for a hurricane. How many could one day be in a similar situation.

For example, only a month ago WaPo published an article describing how Tampa Bay relies on hope that a hurricane won't ever hit even as it continues to expand development: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/health/environment/tampa-bay-climate-change/

That article pisses me off though in that, while absolutely true about Oklahoma, California has strict seismic requirements for buildings and infrastructure. So they're not simply "oh well it comes with the territory" for earthquakes, but rather over-engineering as much as possible to withstand it, unlike what the article indicates Tampa is doing.

SirPablo
May 1, 2004

Pillbug
1800 people died from Katrina.

Houston/TX-LA coast is going to get rain for 3-4 more days.

This will be a defining US moment.

Signed,
A meteorologist

Carlosologist
Oct 13, 2013

Revelry in the Dark

https://twitter.com/KeeganNYC/status/901093723932590080

not something about the hurricane, but this made me mad. if it was ever implemented there would be actual riots in the street

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

dont care what happens to tampa as long as Colombia Restaurant is safe

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Carlosologist posted:

https://twitter.com/KeeganNYC/status/901093723932590080

not something about the hurricane, but this made me mad. if it was ever implemented there would be actual riots in the street

Would there? Why?

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

FourLeaf posted:

Just remember how many cities along the east coast are ill-prepared for a hurricane. How many could one day be in a similar situation.

For example, only a month ago WaPo published an article describing how Tampa Bay relies on hope that a hurricane won't ever hit even as it continues to expand development: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/health/environment/tampa-bay-climate-change/

pinellas county has over a million people in a loving densely packed peninsula and would be wiped off the planet from a cat 4 or 5. i've been begging my brother for a decade, since i left, to move. now he has a kid, so i'm begging harder.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.
so has fema or federal aid/rescue/help/etc started yet?

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

Calibanibal posted:

dont care what happens to tampa as long as Colombia Restaurant is safe

You know, ten years in the area and I NEVER went there.

The Lord of Hats
Aug 22, 2010

Hello, yes! Is being very good day for posting, no?

Celexi posted:

If that happens that will be major catastrophe

It's already a major catastrophe; Harvey doing that would upgrade the situation to "apocalyptic".

I may be falling for hyperbole, but it feels like there's a very real chance there just won't be a Houston anymore.

Throwing Turtles
May 3, 2015

So if I wanted to donate, is Global Giving a good place?

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011

Carlosologist posted:

if it was ever implemented there would be actual riots in the street

There would, in fact, not be riots. People can put their heads down and tolerate an incredible amount of authoritarian poo poo before they start rioting.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Carlosologist posted:

https://twitter.com/KeeganNYC/status/901093723932590080

not something about the hurricane, but this made me mad. if it was ever implemented there would be actual riots in the street

There may be protests but idk about riots. Then again, cops are cops and whenever they start attacking protesters it's always the victims fault, so who knows. I just don't see room for much in the way of positive change as long as the GOP controls everything.

Also remember all the people painting antifa as "alt-left" and the folks who willingly support white supremacy. They'd probably be fine with this to keep their kids away from black/brown kids.

Didn't Samantha Bee's husband support keeping black kids out of some charter school or something equally ridiculous? White people of all stripes want to keep what power/privilege they have.

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
A profile in heroism.

https://twitter.com/marissambarnett/status/901838602769924096

The Lord of Hats
Aug 22, 2010

Hello, yes! Is being very good day for posting, no?

FourLeaf posted:

Just remember how many cities along the east coast are ill-prepared for a hurricane. How many could one day be in a similar situation.

For example, only a month ago WaPo published an article describing how Tampa Bay relies on hope that a hurricane won't ever hit even as it continues to expand development: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/health/environment/tampa-bay-climate-change/

When I visited Florida this past winter, one of the biggest things I was struck by is how loving flat that entire state is. There is not a doubt in my mind that the entire region is loving doomed.

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

SirPablo posted:

1800 people died from Katrina.

Houston/TX-LA coast is going to get rain for 3-4 more days.

This will be a defining US moment.

Signed,
A meteorologist
So is there an upside? Is Texas in 2017 better prepared than New Orleans was in 05? Is the landscape different? I can't imagine it will be as bad as Katrina.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


No, saying Samantha Bees husband was trying to keep black kids out of that school would be inaccurate. BOTH of them were.

farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.
https://twitter.com/lydiadepillis/status/901854829965975555

They had a septic problem in the basement as well.

https://twitter.com/OmarVillafranca/status/901838327724290048

Also, gently caress fire ants.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

FourLeaf posted:

Just remember how many cities along the east coast are ill-prepared for a hurricane. How many could one day be in a similar situation.

For example, only a month ago WaPo published an article describing how Tampa Bay relies on hope that a hurricane won't ever hit even as it continues to expand development: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/health/environment/tampa-bay-climate-change/

Every Hurricane Season Jacksonville collectively recites the mantra of the benevolent Gulf Stream Current, followed by No Dora, No Dora, No Dora, Stop!

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax
uh crowd-sourcing rescue vehicles does not look like good preparation :ohdear:

https://twitter.com/ReadyHarris/status/901853696979587073

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Cingulate posted:

So is there an upside? Is Texas in 2017 better prepared than New Orleans was in 05? Is the landscape different? I can't imagine it will be as bad as Katrina.

Houston is flat with clay soil. The infrastructure is in no way prepared to deal with a milder hurricane than this, the Republican government is irresponsible, FEMA and NOAA are both understaffed, and Trump is president.

Being on the level with Katrina is the optimistic outcome, and I'm saying this with a mind that Harvey doesn't just regain strength in the gulf.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

botany posted:

uh crowd-sourcing rescue vehicles does not look like good preparation :ohdear:

https://twitter.com/ReadyHarris/status/901853696979587073

it's probably a good initiative to take if you don't think the feds have your back

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Office Pig posted:

Houston is flat with clay soil. The infrastructure is in no way prepared to deal with a milder hurricane than this, the Republican government is irresponsible, FEMA and NOAA are both understaffed, and Trump is president.

Being on the level with Katrina is the optimistic outcome, and I'm saying this with a mind that Harvey doesn't just regain strength in the gulf.
I'll just imagine you said "it's gonna be fine!".

farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.

Office Pig posted:

Houston is flat with clay soil. The infrastructure is in no way prepared to deal with a milder hurricane than this, the Republican government is irresponsible, FEMA and NOAA are both understaffed, and Trump is president.

Being on the level with Katrina is the optimistic outcome.

:smug: I think you'll find Houston has a democrat Mayor and furthermore... :psyduck:

The Lord of Hats
Aug 22, 2010

Hello, yes! Is being very good day for posting, no?

https://twitter.com/DividendsMGR/status/901854734109331456

A happy end, but that picture is still nightmarish.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

The Lord of Hats posted:

It's already a major catastrophe; Harvey doing that would upgrade the situation to "apocalyptic".

I may be falling for hyperbole, but it feels like there's a very real chance there just won't be a Houston anymore.

You are falling for hyperbole. I'm currently in downtown Houston, its seriously bad and it will be much worse, but its a flooding disaster. Humans have been dealing with those since we started farming.

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Koalas March posted:

Didn't Samantha Bee's husband support keeping black kids out of some charter school or something equally ridiculous? White people of all stripes want to keep what power/privilege they have.

i googled literally your line of text and

http://www.snopes.com/samantha-bees-husband-school/

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this

botany posted:

uh crowd-sourcing rescue vehicles does not look like good preparation :ohdear:

https://twitter.com/ReadyHarris/status/901853696979587073

Haven't you seen Dunkirk?

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

botany posted:

uh crowd-sourcing rescue vehicles does not look like good preparation :ohdear:

https://twitter.com/ReadyHarris/status/901853696979587073

There's no way the local Sheriff would ever have enough boats to plan for something like this, so all hands on deck crowd-sourcing was always the plan.

I mean, maybe the Sheriff of Venice Italy would have enough boats.

chglcu
May 17, 2007

I'm so bored with the USA.

botany posted:

uh crowd-sourcing rescue vehicles does not look like good preparation :ohdear:

https://twitter.com/ReadyHarris/status/901853696979587073

To me, that reads more like "If you're already helping, let's coordinate" rather than asking for assistance.

SirPablo
May 1, 2004

Pillbug
https://twitter.com/bryanwx/status/901797169975484421

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SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

SpaceCadetBob posted:

I seriously can not comprehend how he could be tweeting this inane crap right now. People are literally trapped in their attics across Houston. Is there no one in the White House that can convince him to put down his phone?

Why? This is pretty much Trump in his purest form. Unless people are directly tied to him in a way that damages his ego or take his money, he doesn't give a gently caress. Trump is pretty much Carl Anheuser from the movie 2012. He's that dick that wants to ignore all the stranded people on the decks just before the wave hits the ships.

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