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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
chelsea owns and is right

:widowsnypa:

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
consumed by tankies

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
Nah, as sort of hosed it is to spy on your own people constantly and without cause and use torture and mass execute prisoners, the Stasi and NKVD weren't involved in overseeing the holocaust.

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Nah, as sort of hosed it is to spy on your own people constantly and without cause and use torture and mass execute prisoners, the Stasi and NKVD weren't involved in overseeing the holocaust.

where does she say they were all equally bad?

murderous authoritarian shits should be opposed, even if some are more murderous than others.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

freckle posted:

where does she say they were all equally bad?

murderous authoritarian shits should be opposed, even if some are more murderous than others.

Agreed, there's violence on many sides here, many sides.

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Agreed, there's violence on many sides here, many sides.

hot take:

stalin was bad.

hitler was worse.

punch both.

otherwise gently caress you.

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

freckle posted:

hot take:

stalin was bad.

hitler was worse.

punch both.

otherwise gently caress you.

woah, woah woah, better up that solidarity output or we'll have to have you talk to our CLEAT buddies here.

BrainParasite
Jan 24, 2003


In conclusion, Chelsea Manning is a land of contrasts.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

freckle posted:

hot take:

stalin was bad.

hitler was worse.

punch both.

otherwise gently caress you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RakHW5530Q

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009


lol

IWW Online Branch
Apr 20, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
gently caress relitigating the 2016 primary, let's relitigate the First Internationale.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

if you (correctly) scoff at fascism = communism arguments in the abstract you should do so in the particular, as well. seems pretty clear to me

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
still not seeing how saying 'secret state murder squads are bad' is equating fascism and communism.

communism doesn't require such things.

unbutthurtable
Dec 2, 2016

Total. Tox. Rereg.


College Slice
Are Texas chapters expecting to do any flood response? If so, can coastal elitist assholes like us do fundraisers?

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

unbutthurtable posted:

Are Texas chapters expecting to do any flood response? If so, can coastal elitist assholes like us do fundraisers?

houston dsa twitter has a fundraiser linked. we're going to be organizing for relief efforts as soon as possible. our exec committee is currently on a conference call with other orgs that will be helping. we've already got a couple of members with water in their homes it sounds like.

The Dipshit
Dec 21, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

jarofpiss posted:

houston dsa twitter has a fundraiser linked. we're going to be organizing for relief efforts as soon as possible. our exec committee is currently on a conference call with other orgs that will be helping. we've already got a couple of members with water in their homes it sounds like.

gently caress fentone chat, got a link?

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011

R. Guyovich posted:

if you (correctly) scoff at fascism = communism arguments in the abstract you should do so in the particular, as well. seems pretty clear to me

so youre like an actual irl tankie huh

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Authoritarianism is... bad

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Venuz Patrol posted:

so youre like an actual irl tankie huh

almost like my positions on history are informed by class analysis and not a series of nicknames twitter people use

IWW Online Branch
Apr 20, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Agean90 posted:

Authoritarianism is... bad

You know who liked authority?

Taran
Nov 2, 2002

What? I don't get to yell "I'LL FINISH THIS" anymore?



Grimey Drawer

Triangle Shirt Factotum posted:

gently caress fentone chat, got a link?

https://twitter.com/HoustonDSA/status/901607437668675589

Vhak lord of hate
Jun 6, 2008

I AM DRINK THE BLOOD OF JESUS
police are bad but secret police? now that's what im talking about



lol at all you dipshit tankies defending the nkvd, do you all have "The Polish Operation was a False Flag" patches?

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
katyn was fake news

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

https://twitter.com/lwoodhouse/status/901863663421685760

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

we're gonna be coordinating with the other texas chapters. wish we had a fuckin navy at this point, seriously considering making my way to academy to liberate some flat bottomed boats. everyone is kind of stuck right now if they don't have an amphibious vehicle so there isn't much in the way of relief we can provide right now. currently we're just getting in touch with members and seeing if they can volunteer and if they're safe and things along those lines.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Vhak lord of hate posted:

police are bad but secret police? now that's what im talking about



lol at all you dipshit tankies defending the nkvd, do you all have "The Polish Operation was a False Flag" patches?

"the gestapo was clearly worse than the nkvd"

"lol tankies. love police much?"

jarofpiss posted:

we're gonna be coordinating with the other texas chapters. wish we had a fuckin navy at this point, seriously considering making my way to academy to liberate some flat bottomed boats. everyone is kind of stuck right now if they don't have an amphibious vehicle so there isn't much in the way of relief we can provide right now. currently we're just getting in touch with members and seeing if they can volunteer and if they're safe and things along those lines.

in actually important things, best of luck mate. no chance in hell i can take the freeway up

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
The environmental committee and John Brown Gun Club / Redneck Revolt chapters should work together to create a socialist rapid response climate catastrophe and disaster relief force.

This will totally suck some swayable libs in, the ones who are woke enough to disaster prep in panic but not socialist enough to do it in a group yet ;)

It also mimics successful black panther tactics and allows non violent people to interface with the direct action types

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

R. Guyovich posted:


in actually important things, best of luck mate. no chance in hell i can take the freeway up

yeah we're currently asking people to not come down to help if they aren't already in town cause we're gonna need the rooms we have for displaced people

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


the gestapo was worse than the nkvd in the sense that the John Birch society is worse than the National Review e.g. both are so irredeemably bad and beyond the pale that you might as well lump them together into the bucket of "awful things not worth defending"

Chelsea's tweet is good and trying to find marginal differences between different authoritarian torture police bureaus is some grade a internet poisoning

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
manning 2020

rudecyrus
Nov 6, 2009

fuck you trolls
How dare Manning besmirch the Stasi and NKVD!

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Give her Danny's seat.

IWW Online Branch
Apr 20, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Purge all MLs in the DSA, including Danny Fanta.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

the gestapo was worse than the nkvd in the sense that the John Birch society is worse than the National Review e.g. both are so irredeemably bad and beyond the pale that you might as well lump them together into the bucket of "awful things not worth defending"

Chelsea's tweet is good and trying to find marginal differences between different authoritarian torture police bureaus is some grade a internet poisoning

considering the nkvd coordinated anti-nazi partisans and was a key component of the war effort which ended the holocaust i do in fact believe drawing distinctions is important

yoober
Nov 21, 2010

counterpoint ACAB

rudecyrus
Nov 6, 2009

fuck you trolls

bump_fn posted:

manning 2020

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

R. Guyovich posted:

considering the nkvd coordinated anti-nazi partisans and was a key component of the war effort which ended the holocaust i do in fact believe drawing distinctions is important

you've chosen the most retarded yet username-appropriate hill to die on, congrats

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

R. Guyovich posted:

considering the nkvd coordinated anti-nazi partisans and was a key component of the war effort which ended the holocaust i do in fact believe drawing distinctions is important

but they're both still bad

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



the CIA also was a key component of the war effort. does that mean the CIA is good?

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Shear Modulus posted:

the CIA also was a key component of the war effort. does that mean the CIA is good?

technically it was the OSS then so no

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