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Billzasilver posted:Which novel translation would people here recommend? I've been meaning to read them since DW2. Moss Roberts translation is pretty much the only one worth reading. There are lots of cheap copies of the books around, but the translation in those might be done with Google Translate. If you rather listen to a podcast, there is a fantastic podcast made by John Zhu. He has a website at 3kingdomspodcast.com.
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Max Wilco posted:Sounds interesting, and it looks like it's on PS4 too. That's the combination of Nintendo IP and a *Warriors game for ya. Nintendo games and *Warriors titles rarely go on sale unless they're digital.
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Billzasilver posted:Which novel translation would people here recommend? I've been meaning to read them since DW2. I've actually started reading this apparently-newer translation by Ronald Iverson and Yu Sumei and it seems to be well done. I spent the summer reading a not-so-fantastic translation of the Icelandic sagas, and after that these things read like they're native english. Maybe that's bad? I don't know. There are samples there to see if it's something you like too, and my thought was hey, at least they seem to use the same name transliterations as the games, which makes it easier for me to follow. It is spread across three books, if that's a problem or not for you. EDIT: Someone points out on a RotTK forum that there are fewer footnotes. That might be a Thing. But they seem to appreciate that there was a native Chinese speaker working on the translation too. Comparing the two, I suspect it's more literal. Squiggle fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Aug 27, 2017 |
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What is it that everyone saw in Zhao Yun again that makes him so ultra popular? (Jiang Wei should be dead last on that poll imo)
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Lunethex posted:What is it that everyone saw in Zhao Yun again that makes him so ultra popular? The top five is a travesty, and Fa Zheng especially doesn't deserve to be sixth from the bottom. At least Pang Tong squeaked it into the top ten, love that weirdo mothman.
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pretty boy who's playable in what feels like 2/3s of Shu's story.
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Also Shu has a pretty poo poo roster. Looking at that gallery I thought "wow, there is not a single one that I actually like." Might as well go for Although I will admit that Pang Tong has grown on me since watching the Three Kingdoms series.
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Who is Xu Shu? I have no recollection of him in DW8 somehow.
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I'm surprised Yue Ying didn't end up in the bottom half, but not displeased. Also how bad do you have to be to lose to Liu Shan lmao
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lurksion posted:Who is Xu Shu? I have no recollection of him in DW8 somehow. RentACop posted:I'm surprised Yue Ying didn't end up in the bottom half, but not displeased. Also how bad do you have to be to lose to Liu Shan lmao
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Urdnot Fire posted:Guan Suo really is that bad. At least the games make Liu Shan lightly endearing in a "he's trying" kind of way. Guan Suo just praises his dead rear end in a top hat dad. I remember being amused at... what was it, 7? I think 7's interpretation from jin characters that Liu Shan actually is fully aware what's going on, he just doesn't give a gently caress because he doesn't feel like throwing his and everyone else's life away for old grudges. So he plays dumb and faffs about while everyone is MUST AVENGE ZHUGE LIANG GRRR
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I think Shu as presented by Dynasty Warriors the past couple of games is kinda fascinating. Divorcing actual history (gently caress Zhang Fei), Shu is basically a group of generic anime (for lack of a better discriptor) protagonists that fail horribly and utterly. Compared to Wu and Wei, Shu actually appeared to give a poo poo about the actual people being caught up in the war, rather than ideals of family and order, respectively. And Liu Bei was such an honorable man (Again, divorcing history as much as one can do. Again, gently caress ZHANG FEI) that his allies literally went behind his back to launch the attack that would establish his kingdom. However, when Liu Bei was tested with Wu's betrayal and the death of his brothers, like with Cao Cao and the death of From there the kingdom never recovered, between a king that was even less competent than Liu Bei and a strategist that was so dedicated to defeating Wei to the point where he is kind of a crazed terrorist. EDIT: TL;DR Shu in DW is an entire kingdom of gently caress ups and that is the most interesting thing about them. Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Aug 28, 2017 |
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Davincie posted:but also don't buy and play too many musou games in a row you're not my real mom! i'm gonna play them all and play them all in order for scientific purposes and i'm gonna like it, drat it!
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https://twitter.com/KoeiTecmoUS/status/902243133953515520 Welp, rags-to-badass commander Ding Feng came in dead last and lifelong rear end in a top hat/noted child-murderer Gan Ning came in second because Koei made him a pretty boy.
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I'm assuming Zhou Tai is #1 because he has hanzo steel, right?
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Urdnot Fire posted:https://twitter.com/KoeiTecmoUS/status/902243133953515520
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I thought for sure Zhou Yu would win, so this is a pleasant surprise (even though he was my pre zhou tai fave)
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Urdnot Fire posted:https://twitter.com/KoeiTecmoUS/status/902243133953515520 Look, man, Liu Bei literally spiked his firstborn son, you can't go bringing actual history into this stuff.
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Oof. Main character of the faction only showing up in the bottom row? That's rough.
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Did KT USA do a Jin poll? Really curious to find out who's where with a roster of characters who's only been around for a game or two.
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Policenaut posted:Did KT USA do a Jin poll? Really curious to find out who's where with a roster of characters who's only been around for a game or two. #1 Wang Yuanji #2 people who are not Wuang Yuanji
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Well yeah I just naturally assumed Yuanji is number 1 but I'd like to know the rest.
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Lu Su is #1 in my heart.
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Urdnot Fire posted:Welp, rags-to-badass commander Ding Feng came in dead last and lifelong rear end in a top hat/noted child-murderer Gan Ning came in second because Koei made him a pretty boy. Sanguozhi posted:Gan Ning would kill for pleasure, and he gave outlaws refuge and lodging in his offices. Whenever he went in or out, if he was on land there were horsemen and chariots drawn up in array, and if he travelled by water there were lines of small craft, all with followers in embroidered clothing. Wherever he halted he used a silken rope to moor the boat, and when he moved on again he cut the rope and left it, to show how little he cared.
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I'm not surprised Sun Quan is so low, given he's boring as gently caress in the games. Shame, too, as he was interesting guy historically. Sun Quan was an alcoholic who was also quite possibly insane, with noted deeds such as "stripping Zhou Tai naked in front of the entire court", "setting fire to Zhang Zhao's house" and "sending two generals out with a fleet to find two mythical islands of yore, and get enraged and execute them when they did, in fact, fail to find the Ancient Chinese equivalent of Atlantis".
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how accurate was the "the romance of the three kingdoms" chinese tv show?
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Sefal posted:how accurate was the "the romance of the three kingdoms" chinese tv show? Which one? There have been several.
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Brony Hunter posted:Which one? There have been several. This one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ewJ_IO1RSU I still really like the opening
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They're all generally quite accurate to the Sanguo Yanyi, the eponymous literary Romance of the Three Kingdoms. But the Romance was written a thousand years after the event, explicitly as a work of propaganda in a future north/south divide of China, based primarily off of folk legend, and directly contradicting surviving primary sources. Also, the Taoist magic thing.
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It's a pretty good adaptation of the novel, takes a lot of liberties as many adaptations do. It's quite entertaining with one of the best depictions of Cao Cao I've seen in media. Liu Bei 'n' pals are mostly white bread, though, sadly. A lot of Wu stuff is glossed over as well, even more than the novel does.
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And yeah the Romance is explicitly a novel and work of fiction, it's beautifully written and a wonderful story, but should not be considered historically accurate at all. In many ways, the history is actually more interesting and fascinating than the fiction
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there's probably something interesting you can say about the differences in cao cao's portrayal in the 1994 and 2011 TV adaptations vis a vis the rapid change in modern chinese society between those years, but i'm not even remotely qualified to make that commentary
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The way I've heard it described which sticks with me, is that Romance of the Three Kingdoms is the greatest piece of fan fiction ever written.
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The Doomhammer posted:Lu Su is #1 in my heart. 
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Blooming Brilliant posted:The way I've heard it described which sticks with me, is that Romance of the Three Kingdoms is the greatest piece of fan fiction ever written. nah romance of the three kingdoms is historical fiction. dante, however, is a tremendous piece of fanfic
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