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Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...
That white area on the front part of the engine nacelle contains the vents for hydraulic fluid during overfill or over pressure events.

What I mean to say is, it won't be white for very long.

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movax
Aug 30, 2008


What the gently caress? How did that IRU not fail safe, have a redundancy, any kind of "implausible value" faults, or light off an incredibly loud alarm indicating essentially instrument failure? Does the crew have to ID the problem and manually toggle a switchover?

Most of the IRUs I've designed into systems / craft, either civvie or "tactical" fail real hard, real fast in the event of a malfunction and let the host system know. What a terrifying, lovely situation for that crew -- RIP.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Bob A Feet posted:

That white area on the front part of the engine nacelle contains the vents for hydraulic fluid during overfill or over pressure events.

What I mean to say is, it won't be white for very long.

On the other hand, it's Japan. They probably have a team of like 20 guys come out and wash the things tip to tail after every time it moves.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





drunkill posted:

Japan are used to their aircraft cashing.

:drat:

Kebbins
Apr 9, 2017

BRAK LIVES MATTER
JSDF has the best paint jobs on literally everything, goddamn.

Don't even get me started on the fighters fuuuuck.

Kebbins fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Aug 27, 2017

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Bob A Feet posted:

That white area on the front part of the engine nacelle contains the vents for hydraulic fluid during overfill or over pressure events.

What I mean to say is, it won't be white for very long.

Having that area be painted white and kept clean sounds really useful for knowing when one of those events has happened.

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


Cocoa Crispies posted:

Having that area be painted white and kept clean sounds really useful for knowing when one of those events has happened.

Every startup, shutdown, or hydraulic service?

We paint the bottom of our cowlings black for exactly that reason. The "common sump drain" has every fluid that goes in an engine coming out of it at every shutdown, so the bottom of the cowling turns black ANYWAY, especially when the thrust reversers are used to keep taxi speeds low on hot days and the stuff just bakes on with dust.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

:stare: "Toshi! Shut it all down, immediately!"

*does a crash shutdown*

:ohdear: "What was wrong - was something smoking? Was one of my propellers shimmying?"

:stare: "No! Worse! There's a *speck of dirt* on the fuselage!"

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Kebbins posted:

JSDF has the best paint jobs on literally everything, goddamn.

Right?

Luneshot
Mar 10, 2014

I'm really partial to the sick paint scheme on the F-2.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...


Hhhhhhhhnnnnnggggggggggg

Don't post flying boat porn in-line.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Content:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1vMCm2JfhA

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Luneshot posted:

I'm really partial to the sick paint scheme on the F-2.


:razz:


"I'd like to apologize in advance to anyone who's directly under me right now..."

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Aug 27, 2017

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

Luneshot posted:

I'm really partial to the sick paint scheme on the F-2.


Same colors look pretty good on the Phantom too:
link

Mazz
Dec 12, 2012

Orion, this is Sperglord Actual.
Come on home.
Doesn't Israel have/want a few Ospreys?

vessbot
Jun 17, 2005
I don't like you because you're dangerous

movax posted:

What the gently caress? How did that IRU not fail safe, have a redundancy, any kind of "implausible value" faults, or light off an incredibly loud alarm indicating essentially instrument failure? Does the crew have to ID the problem and manually toggle a switchover?

Most of the IRUs I've designed into systems / craft, either civvie or "tactical" fail real hard, real fast in the event of a malfunction and let the host system know. What a terrifying, lovely situation for that crew -- RIP.

The CRJ has exactly that - the EFIS comparator. It compares the left vs. right displayed values for everything on the screens, and throws a caution for a 4 degree (I think) difference in pitch or roll.

But that was not enough in this case, in the face of an automatic autopilot disconnect right when both the crew were most distracted, briefing the approach, i.e., they were both looking at their approach plates and talking about them. So the captain/PF was suddenly snapped to looking at his PFD, which was displaying a huge climb quickly increasing to 30 degrees. And a flight director commanding full nose down. This kind of startle can induce a hugely constraining tunnel vision.

I'd like to think that in such a situation I would have the presence of mind to crosscheck against the pitot-static indications, and the other 2 attitude indications on the panel. I would not like to find out if I'm right.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

The article implies that the software hid the relevant caution indicator when it switched the screen over to "oh poo poo pitch down" mode. That's criminally negligent software design.

ehnus
Apr 16, 2003

Now you're thinking with portals!

StandardVC10 posted:

Same colors look pretty good on the Phantom too:
link

Wow, the JASDF still has three Phantom squadrons operating.

marumaru
May 20, 2013



StandardVC10 posted:

Same colors look pretty good on the Phantom too:
link

the phantom could be smeared with feces and it'd still look incredible

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

Inacio posted:

the phantom could be smeared with feces and it'd still look incredible

Yeah, it would have been great to give the marine's f-4's instead of the f-35b mess

Luneshot
Mar 10, 2014

Is that a hole cut perpendicular through the nose? What's the purpose of that?

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Luneshot posted:

Is that a hole cut perpendicular through the nose? What's the purpose of that?

It's an RF-4, so those are ports for cameras.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
This one isn’t as terrifying as the broken IRU crash, but still pretty bad.

This guy is without a doubt the worst pilot I’ve ever heard of.

0toShifty
Aug 21, 2005
0 to Stiffy?

These were both amazing.

inkjet_lakes
Feb 9, 2015

Kebbins posted:

JSDF has the best paint jobs on literally everything, goddamn.

Don't even get me started on the fighters fuuuuck.

Check out the paint schemes on their aggressor aircraft, my favourite is the one in Boba Fett colours

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


Sagebrush posted:

The article implies that the software hid the relevant caution indicator when it switched the screen over to "oh poo poo pitch down" mode. That's criminally negligent software design.

Yeah when in 'oh poo poo mode' having errors hidden especially errors of 'your main instrument telling how you are pointed is broken' is bad.

Again it comes down to several factors, blinded by cabin lights, distracted by landing checklist, instrument broken, and no distraction mode hiding the error. I'm sure once the investigation concluded this mode was adjusted to display spesific errors.


[quote="Platystemon" post="475817818"]
This one isn’t as terrifying as the broken IRU crash, but still pretty bad.

This guy is without a doubt the worst pilot I’ve ever heard of.
[/quote

Wow just wow on both.

tater_salad fucked around with this message at 13:29 on Aug 28, 2017

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

:gonk: Holy crap, the passengers got wasted and PUSHED the pilot into his controls forcing it into a dive. What the hell.

Remora
Aug 15, 2010


I don't mind when idiots take themselves out, but I mind a lot when they take other people with them.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



loving backseat pilots.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.

Kebbins posted:

JSDF has the best paint jobs on literally everything, goddamn.

Luneshot posted:

I'm really partial to the sick paint scheme on the F-2.

The only better style I've seen is splinter camo. Even the JSDF's standard green/brown camo paint job on their C-130s looks twice as good as anyone else's, somehow.

inkjet_lakes posted:

Check out the paint schemes on their aggressor aircraft, my favourite is the one in Boba Fett colours
Why is that aggressors always have better paint schemes than the standard set?

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Comrade Gorbash posted:

Why is that aggressors always have better paint schemes than the standard set?

Because it keeps pilots from caring that they're flying some of the oldest airframes in the inventory.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

CommieGIR posted:

:gonk: Holy crap, the passengers got wasted and PUSHED the pilot into his controls forcing it into a dive. What the hell.

"What the hell" is probably why the village has restrictions on alcohol in the first place. I know a guy who did policework in northern Manitoba, and he basically said: don't transport liquor into dry/damp communities -- there's a reason they have those laws, the community leadership has usually deemed it necessary or prudent, and it's inconsiderate to help go against that.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

PT6A posted:

"What the hell" is probably why the village has restrictions on alcohol in the first place. Don't transport liquor into dry/damp communities -- there's a reason they have those laws, the community leadership has usually deemed it necessary or prudent, and it's inconsiderate to help go against that.

Counterpoint:



Red is dry and yellow is mixed.

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

Comrade Gorbash posted:

The only better style I've seen is splinter camo. Even the JSDF's standard green/brown camo paint job on their C-130s looks twice as good as anyone else's, somehow.

Why is that aggressors always have better paint schemes than the standard set?

Higher budgets and fewer airplanes, I'd reckon.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

tactlessbastard posted:

Higher budgets and fewer airplanes, I'd reckon.

Nation-wide obsession with 5S

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

PT6A posted:

"What the hell" is probably why the village has restrictions on alcohol in the first place. I know a guy who did policework in northern Manitoba, and he basically said: don't transport liquor into dry/damp communities -- there's a reason they have those laws, the community leadership has usually deemed it necessary or prudent, and it's inconsiderate to help go against that.

No, not really. Dry county and Dry County leadership is nothing more than theocracy.

Maybe don't let your passengers drink while driving/flying.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
Counterpoint: this isn't the bible belt, it's remote areas where tribal leadership has restricted alcohol, usually due to extreme social ills being caused by alcoholism, and it's fairly loving rude to act against that even if it's technically legal.

Mortabis
Jul 8, 2010

I am stupid

CommieGIR posted:

No, not really. Dry county and Dry County leadership is nothing more than theocracy.

Maybe don't let your passengers drink while driving/flying.

This is very, very, very not true in Canadian indigenous communities. They have huge problems with alcohol.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Mortabis posted:

This is very, very, very not true in Canadian indigenous communities. They have huge problems with alcohol.

Problems with alcohol, or problems with poverty? We've setup Native's in an endless poverty trap and there's almost no escape.

quote:

Native American youth are far more likely to experiment with alcohol than other youth with 80% alcohol use reported. Low self-esteem is thought to be one cause. Active efforts are underway to build self-esteem among youth and to combat alcoholism among Native Americans.

quote:

Acknowledging that prohibition has not worked, in a major change in strategy since the late 20th century, as of 2007, 63 percent of the federally recognized tribes in the lower 48 states had legalized alcohol sales on their reservations.[46] Among these, all the other tribes in South Dakota have legalized sales, as have many in Nebraska. The tribes decided to retain the revenues that previously would go to the states through retail sales taxes on this commodity. Legalizing the sales enables the tribes to keep more money within their reservation economies and support new businesses and services, as well as to directly regulate, police and control alcohol sales. The retained revenues enable them to provide health care and build facilities to better treat individuals and families suffering from alcohol abuse.[46] In some cases, legalization of alcohol sales also supported the development of resorts and casinos, to generate revenues for other economic enterprises.

Prohibition has never worked, will never work, and continues not to work, because its not actually solving a problem, just hiding an escape.

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Aug 28, 2017

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PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

CommieGIR posted:

Problems with alcohol, or problems with poverty? We've setup Native's in an endless poverty trap and there's almost no escape.

Problems with lack of opportunity, poverty, generation cycles of physical and sexual abuse, and a lot of other poo poo. But alcohol can and often does exacerbate those problems.

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