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So...Cersei didn't have a miscarriage right? Was that leak from an actual script page and it was removed from this episode (so we can expect it to come out in Season 8)? or was it just speculation?
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 12:36 |
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# ? May 29, 2024 11:57 |
radlum posted:So...Cersei didn't have a miscarriage right? Was that leak from an actual script page and it was removed from this episode (so we can expect it to come out in Season 8)? or was it just speculation? It was a leak from Friki so probably a last minute cut. Why? Maybe HBO didn't want to have it in there because of potential controversy overshadowing the talking points of season 7. Maybe the writers decided Cersei and Dany being pregnant at the same time would provide much needed poetry as it rhymes.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 12:40 |
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VanillaGorilla posted:People probably shouldn't take those "leaked" s8 scripts too seriously - there are some pretty major internal inconsistencies in them. For example, they have Howland Reid both dying in ep. 3 and also having scenes with Jon in ep. 4 (non-flashback). It's pretty clearly someone's fan fiction produced after reading the S7 spoilers. you are the 5678th person to bring that up and I'm the the 5678th person to mention that the leaked S7 plot outlines contained similar inconsistencies
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 12:44 |
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The Theon scene was legitimately bizzarre. I still don't really know what they were going for. Every single beat was muddled and odd and bad. But then I think everyone got distracted by an even more confusing frowning Tyrion standing outside the room for the entire time.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 12:46 |
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VagueRant posted:The Theon scene was legitimately bizzarre. I still don't really know what they were going for. Every single beat was muddled and odd and bad. It was to show that what he thought were his weaknesses were actually his greatest strength. I think I speak for all men when I say we live our lives in fear of being kicked in the balls and that fear over shadows almost all of the decisions we make. When Theon jumped off that boat earlier this season a lot of people gave him poo poo and called him a coward but I understood where he was coming from. That old fear of being kicked in the balls held him back. It wasn't until someone actually kicked him square where his nuts should be that it finally dawned on him that he was free now, he didn't have to be afraid of someone lining up a perfect knee to the gonads and dropping him like a sack of potatoes. It was actually a really moving scene for me personally.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 13:06 |
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Haha yep they really have changed Westeros to be the size of England. Two weeks for the Dothraki to go from Kings Landing to Winterfell.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 13:07 |
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Pump it up! Do it! posted:Haha yep they really have changed Westeros to be the size of England. Two weeks for the Dothraki to go from Kings Landing to Winterfell. To be fair it took Robert a month with his big gently caress off carriages and slow rear end retinue. Reminder that Catelyn arrived in KL's before Ned when she rode with Rodrick to White Harbor and took a ship from there so two weeks for a 100% mounted force seems fair enough.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 13:11 |
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Arya now has Littlefingers face and can get close to Cersei.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 13:14 |
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Pump it up! Do it! posted:Haha yep they really have changed Westeros to be the size of England. Two weeks for the Dothraki to go from Kings Landing to Winterfell. The Mongols managed up to 1000 km in a week during the invasion of Russia and Hungary (using the perfect steppe from Asia right down into Hungary for this). Of course the Dothraki are only the poor man's lovely Mongols....
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 13:14 |
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Rojo_Sombrero posted:Arya now has Littlefingers face and can get close to Cersei. The face of someone who betrayed Cersei and was publicly executed might not be such a great disguise.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 13:27 |
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The Grey posted:Hey guys - Anyone else notice that the ice dragon has holes in his wings now? So how is it flying? This show is so unrealistic. Those are speed holes
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 13:29 |
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Nice touch
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 13:34 |
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Captain Splendid posted:Nice touch I don't know what I'm supposed to be seeing here.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 13:35 |
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Sdoots posted:I don't know what I'm supposed to be seeing here. I'm seeing a man severely overdressed for the climate.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 13:38 |
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Sdoots posted:I don't know what I'm supposed to be seeing here. Look at the shoulder, the dothraki have been looting lannister armour.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 13:39 |
Strom Cuzewon posted:Look at the shoulder, the dothraki have been looting lannister armour. Which makes no sense at all, as the Dothraki don't wear armor on principle and not because they can't afford it.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 13:48 |
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Funky See Funky Do posted:So why the didn't either of them say something earlier? Everything that happened in Winterfell this season was done entirely to set up this dumb fake out scene whether it made any sense or not. They have no idea what to do with any of these characters is the simplest answer. D&D just want to get to the 'rocks fall everyone dies' ending at this point.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 13:49 |
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:you are the 5678th person to bring that up and I'm the the 5678th person to mention that the leaked S7 plot outlines contained similar inconsistencies The bigger issue is that there's no way a minor character that 99% of the viewing audience isn't even aware of will have a role to play in the final six episodes. All the players are on the board so to speak. Whether or not Howland Reed will play some role in the books is irrelevant, in the show Sam has figured out Jon's true parentage and the Citadel can back it up. Howland Reed is a redundancy that they are simply not going to bother with. Fan fiction.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 13:54 |
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Is Tormund dead what the heck
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 13:55 |
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DrNutt posted:The bigger issue is that there's no way a minor character that 99% of the viewing audience isn't even aware of will have a role to play in the final six episodes. All the players are on the board so to speak. Whether or not Howland Reed will play some role in the books is irrelevant, in the show Sam has figured out Jon's true parentage and the Citadel can back it up. Howland Reed is a redundancy that they are simply not going to bother with. You mean like Dickon? The guy they bought in for two episodes just so they could have a scene of Khalesi burning him alive? They're absolutely not above bringing in some rando characters for an episode or two if it gives the a cheap and easy way to do a scene they want to do.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:01 |
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Vitamin P posted:Is Tormund dead what the heck NO Jesus christ, until you see a body, you always assume they're alive. Have you seen fiction before?
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:05 |
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Jon demonstrated fire and dargonglass but conveniently left out valyrian steel. If anyone has a lot of valyrian steel stuff around its probably the Lannisters, cmon Jon.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:06 |
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WampaLord posted:NO Can't wait for Stannis to win this Game of Thrones
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:10 |
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Funky See Funky Do posted:You mean like Dickon? The guy they bought in for two episodes just so they could have a scene of Khalesi burning him alive? They're absolutely not above bringing in some rando characters for an episode or two if it gives the a cheap and easy way to do a scene they want to do. Sam's family was introduced in season 6 so we could see what a terrible rear end in a top hat his dad was. The Tarlys were referred to as a major house and important to the Lannister's war efforts. Howland Reed is a character only book readers could name, father of the girl who stuck with Bran for five seasons only to dip out this season to, quoting the leaked episode outline here, "walk out of the room and the story." With Sam learning the truth about Jon via the Citadel and Broogle, there is pretty much zero reason for them to introduce a major character (and explain to the show audience why exactly he's so important) this late in the game.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:11 |
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Soul Glo posted:Can't wait for Stannis to win this Game of Thrones Exceptions are given for characters that we trust confirming a death via dialogue. Though there were plenty of "Stannis is still alive!!!!" believers for a while, so thanks for proving my point.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:13 |
WampaLord posted:NO They explicitly show him and Beric getting out of the blast zone on the western side of the wall that still stands. They are presumably running to Castle Black, where they will send a Raven to alert Winterfell.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:14 |
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drunken officeparty posted:Jon demonstrated fire and dargonglass but conveniently left out valyrian steel. If anyone has a lot of valyrian steel stuff around its probably the Lannisters, cmon Jon. Valyrian steel kills the white walkers, not the wights, but they didn't really get brought up at all for no apparent reason. "Well, you brought proof of the dead walking, but we have yet to see one of these, white walkers you speak of." Jon - "she's raht, we've gaht to assemble the team ahgain and capture a waht wahlker or they won't believe the threat is real."
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:15 |
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WampaLord posted:NO To be fair, his placement in the scene is a really muddled. We get the shot where he yells at everyone to run, followed by a snippet of him running along the wall while it's coming apart behind him. He turns around in that latter shot, and you see the collapse stop which heavily implies he's safe on the still intact western edge, but then it cuts back to more footage of Viserion tearing poo poo apart. There should be a reaction shot where he and Beric watch the army of the dead march through the breach, but I guess the show runners prefer an obviously false cliffhanger over narrative coherence.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:22 |
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It's actually quite clear.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:24 |
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drunken officeparty posted:Jon demonstrated fire and dargonglass but conveniently left out valyrian steel. If anyone has a lot of valyrian steel stuff around its probably the Lannisters, cmon Jon. There are very few Valyrian steel weapons in the world, and the Lannisters didn't have any until Tywin melted down Ned's sword. It's still an oversight not to mention them, but I think there are a total of, like... five Valyrian weapons in the show? Jon, Jaime, Brienne, and Sam's swords along with Arya's dagger. I think that's it. Vintersorg posted:It's actually quite clear. I would have said the same, but I've seen a bunch of people speculating on his death. I guess you could just call them idiots, but I do think the scene could be cut together better.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:27 |
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The morale of this season is that the world would be a better place if more men were gay. Prevents incest, corruption, rebellion and war the safe way.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:27 |
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drunken officeparty posted:Jon demonstrated fire and dargonglass but conveniently left out valyrian steel. If anyone has a lot of valyrian steel stuff around its probably the Lannisters, cmon Jon. The Lannisters had famously been trying and failing to buy valyrian steel for years until they captured Ned and got Ice from him.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:28 |
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Yeah it's weird they only talk about the dead. Like it's terrifying, but they're stupid and can't swim. I guess everyone just knows the tales of the white walkers and this implies all of that? They kind of eluded to that.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:30 |
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Shame the Wall coming down had no impact because all the characters decided a few episodes ago that the ultimate battle would take place in Winterfell - a keep easily detoured around OR starved out by a zombie army. Seriously, why were the characters not talking about getting the armies all to the Wall and making a big deal that it was obviously their best defense and position? Such a small thing that would've vastly improved the plot point.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:35 |
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I'm confused why did Danny and John need Cersei's help in the first place? I thought they massacred most of the Lannister army like, 3 episodes ago which is why Cersei is desperate to hire the Golden Company? Seems like with the magic teleportationthat Danny's army has, she could easy take Kings Landing and finish the war then and there before heading up north. This also would have negated the Night King's ice dragon, as his other plan was to apparently to march to the wall and..stare at it? Solaris 2.0 fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Aug 28, 2017 |
# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:39 |
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VagueRant posted:Shame the Wall coming down had no impact because all the characters decided a few episodes ago that the ultimate battle would take place in Winterfell - a keep easily detoured around OR starved out by a zombie army. I don't recall anything about them planning to have the battle at Winterfell. It's their rally point, and it makes sense to mass their armies there before moving on to the wall as it's the most well supplied position that far north. Solaris 2.0 posted:I'm confused why did Danny and John need Cersei's help in the first place? I thought they massacred most of the Lannister army like, 3 episodes ago which is why Cersei is desperate to hire the Golden Company? Seems like with the magic teleportation magic that Danny's army has, she could easy take Kings Landing and finish the war then and there before heading up north. Most, but not all. They weren't angling to get help, just a truce so they could focus on the north without worrying she would re-marshal and march a fresh army right up their rear end in a top hat while they're busy dealing with the dead. Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Aug 28, 2017 |
# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:40 |
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Solaris 2.0 posted:I'm confused why did Danny and John need Cersei's help in the first place? I thought they massacred most of the Lannister army like, 3 episodes ago which is why Cersei is desperate to hire the Golden Company? Seems like with the magic teleportationthat Danny's army has, she could easy take Kings Landing and finish the war then and there before heading up north. They don't. Sweeping in with the Dragons and killing her would have meant getting most of her few remaining forces without the headache. But... Drama
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:50 |
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Reading autistic posts from goons about the realism of an undead ice wyvern taking out a chunk of a 700 foot wall was more entertaining than the episode.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:52 |
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Theon is a hero now because he doesn't have a dick. Thanks Tumblr.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:54 |
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I'm confused about why valyrian steel and dragon glass needs to be two separate things. Functionally they're the same aren't they
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