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I like how much worse this card is than Renegade Freighter Like, actually like, because that card was stupid Tainen posted:A note from the mechanics article. There are no double faced creatures in the set. also I like how this draws the game if it's the only artifact or creature in play
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Elyv posted:I like how much worse this card is than Renegade Freighter WOTC confirms it was an error. https://twitter.com/tabakrules/status/902184885946683396
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They can probably fix it with a clarification on how "until" works. So if it would exile itself and then immediately unexile itself (since it's no longer in play), instead it does nothing.
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Aug 28, 2017 16:12
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Treasure Map art featuring a Kopesh is interesting.
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drat Jace is kinda ripped for how much a dweeb he's supposed to be.
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Aug 28, 2017 16:13
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mandatory lesbian posted:and another thing, why can't i say the n-word Actually I can! I'm not American, I am not bound by the social conventions of America, and in my language referring to a person from African descent as a "negar" is actually less rude than calling them "black". I am not sure what that has to do with anything though, but figured if you're pointing it out it might relevant. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 28, 2017 16:13
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Jace, the Brine Sculptor Or just Jace the Cabin Boi :bigtran:
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When does the Planeswalker uniqueness rule actually change? I feel like I'm missing the obvious somewhere.
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The Lord of Hats posted:This card is perfect. Just perfect. There is not a single aspect of this card that I am not in love with. I love this card, such a cool frame for the land side.
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Aug 28, 2017 16:16
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C-Euro posted:drat Jace is kinda ripped for how much a dweeb he's supposed to be. It's canon he uses illusion magic to make himself look cool.
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Jenx posted:Actually I can! I'm not American, I am not bound by the social conventions of America, and in my language referring to a person from African descent as a "negar" is actually less rude than calling them "black". This really isn't the hill you want to die on. Unless it is, in which case you should just do it and stop bothering us.
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Aug 28, 2017 16:17
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So now I can play Gideon of the Trials, Gideon AoZ, and Gideon Jura in the same deck without having nearly the deckbuilding restrictions as before? Could that Gideon tribal deck actually be decent now that it means you don't always have a bunch of dead cards in hand? It's kinda hard to kill 1 gideon a lot of the time, making an emblem and having 3 out at once to kill sounds pretty stupid.
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Obsoletely Fabulous posted:When does the Planeswalker uniqueness rule actually change? I feel like I'm missing the obvious somewhere.
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Ein Sexmonster posted:You can now control Jace Beleren, Jace, the Mind Sculptor and Jace, Architect of Thought at the same time. They just follow the same rules as Legendaries now. Throw in a Jace, Cunning Castaway ultimate and you have 6 Jaces!
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Announcement Date: August 28, 2017 Vintage: Thorn of Amethyst is restricted. Monastery Mentor is restricted. Yawgmoth's Bargain is unrestricted. All other formats: No changes Effective Date: September 1, 2017 Magic Online Effective Date: August 30, 2017 The list of all banned and restricted cards, by format, is here. Next B&R Announcement: October 17, 2017 ...eh.
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Aug 28, 2017 16:21
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Jace, Cunning Castaway's copies can still make more copies, an endless series of Jaces drawing one card each and making more Jaces to do the same. If one makes an illusion the others shun him for his foibles.
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Aug 28, 2017 16:21
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It's infinite 2/2s with Doubling Season, FWIW.
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Aug 28, 2017 16:22
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 New graveyard hate. Seems to be focused on standard, shutting down embalm and aftermath. Probably just worse than Cage in modern, but shutting down viscera seer shenanigans might give it legs.  Torpor Orb stapled to a irrelevant body. I guess dodging quasili pridemage is neat.  Dark Confidant variant that you don't need to untap with.  Maybe if you put hate cards in the same set as the broken mechanics instead of waiting a full year, you wouldn't have to ban so many things.    Wizards never disappoins when it comes to red mythics and rare enchantments.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Jace, Cunning Castaway's copies can still make more copies, an endless series of Jaces drawing one card each and making more Jaces to do the same. If one makes an illusion the others shun him for his foibles. Doubling Season for crisis on infinite nerds
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Aug 28, 2017 16:23
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Also if Explore is a mechanic do you think they would reprint Explore the card?
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little munchkin posted:
No body is irrelevant, as Torpor Orb couldn't grab a Sword of What & Ever.
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that lets you run it as a sideboard card in decks that rely on chord of calling/coco to grab their silver bullets, like elves.
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Rides Naked posted:Jace, the Brine Sculptor I'll forever just call it Sailor Jace.
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dragon enthusiast posted:Doubling Season for crisis on infinite nerds This would let you make an arbitrarily large amount of Jaces, and since one creates two, this means every other Jace is free to draw a card or create an Illusion, so you could make an arbitrarily large number of creatures on board as well. Crisis on Infinite Nerds isn't the worst plan I've ever heard of, but like a lot of Doubling Season plays it's probably not actually good.
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evilweasel posted:that lets you run it as a sideboard card in decks that rely on chord of calling/coco to grab their silver bullets, like elves. Hushwing griff has been around for a couple years and nobody uses it. It costs 1 less but at least it has flash too. Most of the chord/company decks would be hurt by the thing being on the field, maybe less so with druid/vizier combo now.
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In a non-shitposting related topic - I am loving the change to Planeswalkers. Sure, it does change the game in rather dramatic way, but it also puts them in line with the Legendary rule, which is neat and tidy. Also my canadian highlander G/B control can now have 3 Lilianas, 2 Nissas and 3 Garruks out at the same time, so I'm not complaining about it any time soon.
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holy poo poo this is already looking like the best set ever, not only are the art and flavor cool, the cards look really fun and there are a million mechanics and of the look great. i don't usually get this hyped about mtg sets but god drat
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evilweasel posted:that lets you run it as a sideboard card in decks that rely on chord of calling/coco to grab their silver bullets, like elves. Yeah, it's actually really good. While it's super antisynergetic with the birthing pod-style Company decks (which is one of the first places that looks for silver bullet creatures), anything that has chord/company and doesn't itself rely on ETB triggers is gonna give this serious consideration.
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Jace seems ok but holy moly that art is terrible
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evilweasel posted:that lets you run it as a sideboard card in decks that rely on chord of calling/coco to grab their silver bullets, like elves. oh ya I was thinking that all the coco decks wouldn't want it because it turns off their own combos. I forgot about the tribal coco decks. seems dope
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little munchkin posted:
Rowdy Crew is lame as hell but honestly the rare enchantment with a million lines of rules text is actually kind of neat and I actually think star of extinction is cool
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Hushwing griff has been around for a couple years and nobody uses it. It costs 1 less but at least it has flash too. Most of the chord/company decks would be hurt by the thing being on the field, maybe less so with druid/vizier combo now. Costing 1 less is important. Surviving pings is important. Sharing a mana cost and creature types with Thalia, Guardian of Thraben is important.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Costing 1 less is important. Surviving pings is important. Sharing a mana cost and creature types with Thalia, Guardian of Thraben is important. Granted costing 1 less is good, and I didn't think about it being a human. Maybe it could fit into the human aggro sideboard in modern
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Waker of the Wilds is going to be miserable to face in linited.
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Sickening posted:The planeswalker change is huge game change. I would expect the 3 cmc's lilies to be more expensive in the short term. I wonder how many Legacy players will be caught off guard by Karakas bouncing an animated Gideon when it first goes into effect.
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Jabor posted:It's infinite 2/2s with Doubling Season, FWIW. Jace, Architect of Thought just wins the game on the slot with Doubling Season though.
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Tainen posted:WOTC confirms it was an error. Fixing via errata:  Meaning judges will hilariously have to explain this at every single prerelease.
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Angry Grimace posted:Fixing via errata: functional errata is bullshit. It is one of the things that has turned me off of X-Wing. You need a loving booklet to look up what cards in that game really do vs. what they say.
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