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UmOk posted:Unpopular opinion. The early 2000's Fantastic Four movies were good. They captured the goofiness and family dynamic pretty good. i liked the first one well enough I didn't even mind that version of doom but the second one didn't have the balls to do galactus and i'll never forgive it, i was so hype to see that goofy poo poo. i have never been so disappointed.
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Karloff posted:One of the core themes it seems to me of Batman V Superman is "never question the powerful, they are always correct". If it wants to criticize Superman, than it can do better than framing every thing negative associated with him; the massive deaths at the end of Man of Steel, the opening international incident, as the fault of "someone else". That's a weird core theme to take away, seeing as every other powerful figure in the movie (the president, Luthor, Batman) is explicitly wrong over and over again. Superman is pure. He's literally and explicitly a Jesus figure. The point isn't that he does anything wrong, the film isn't trying to criticise him. You can tell this by your own analysis: that he is never actually criticised. Burkion posted:And believe you me, he learns NOTHING in Civil War. The best part of Civil War is Stark lecturing everyone else about the human cost of the Ultron incident (which he directly caused) including a girl who lost her entire family and country. He then goes on to break every rule in the book to achieve what he wanted to do, after deciding that everyone else needed a rulebook and oversight He's essentially an alcoholic who tells everyone else to stop drinking, while popping down the bar every night.
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Aug 28, 2017 07:02
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Snowman_McK posted:He's essentially an alcoholic who tells everyone else to stop drinking, while popping down the bar every night. Well yeah, he can handle it.
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Aug 28, 2017 07:08
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Well yeah, he can handle it. Except he demonstrably can't. His last bar visit in the movie results in him nearly killing his friend. As an interesting side note, he loses the fight because he forgets that Steve is his friend. He blocks his face, not his reactor, forgetting that Cap just wants to stop/win the fight, not kill him. In Stark's head, that's a fight to the death. Makes sense, since he's personally killed all his enemies, and Cap hasn't.
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Aug 28, 2017 08:47
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UmOk posted:Unpopular opinion. The early 2000's Fantastic Four movies were good. They captured the goofiness and family dynamic pretty good. FF 2 is Clockwork Orange Torture levels of bad.
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Aug 28, 2017 09:52
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dont even fink about it posted:FF 2 is Clockwork Orange Torture levels of bad. Why? Is it a "not my Galactus" thing?
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Aug 28, 2017 13:42
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UmOk posted:Unpopular opinion. The early 2000's Fantastic Four movies were good. They captured the goofiness and family dynamic pretty good. Critical perspective on popular opinion: goofiness and family values are bog-standard cliches in most commercial American films, and that the Tim Story F4 movies can only be defended through pretending these are actually unique qualities of F4 is proof positive of why they're mediocre garbage.
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Aug 28, 2017 13:51
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I like a bunch of little touches, like Reed dropping to a knee to propose but simultaneously being enough of a dick he stretches so he doesn't actually change height. But that's about it, the broad strokes are boring.
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Aug 28, 2017 13:58
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Snowman_McK posted:Superman is pure. He's literally and explicitly a Jesus figure. The point isn't that he does anything wrong, the film isn't trying to criticise him. You can tell this by your own analysis: that he is never actually criticised. The film thoroughly criticizes him, if it didn't (and he didn't), he wouldn't be Christ-like. That's always what's missing in that analysis - if that were the case, Chris Kyle would be a Jesus figure.
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Aug 28, 2017 15:01
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Yeah the talking heads are the Pharisees. Batman is Pontius Pilate. Lex is the Roman emperor. Lois is Mary Magdalene. Doomsday is uh... Barabbas. Jonathan Kent is Jonathan the Baptist. The tornado is Salome. General Swannick is Thomas. Wonder Woman is st Peter. Batman is also St Peter and also Saul and the apostle Paul. The Flash is a vision of Jesus, Superman is Jesus. Aquaman is the holy spirit. Cyborg is Constantine and Constantine is the Galatians. Harley Quinn is the other Mary and the Joker is that servant who doubled his talents. Jor El is the archangel Michael and Jimmy Olsen is the thief.
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Aug 28, 2017 15:12
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What about the warlord, Alfred, and Mercy?
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Aug 28, 2017 15:40
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The warlord is the money changer at the temple, Alfred is Luke, and Mercy is the traveler ignores the injured man. The injured man is the injured man, and Wilson Fisk is the ill intent.
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Aug 28, 2017 15:51
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Mercy is the traveler ignores the injured man. The injured man is the injured man.  Oh, so what's Steppenwolf?
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Aug 28, 2017 16:00
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The two thieves martyred with Christ are OBVIOUSLY in the Knightmare, with Batman as Christ.
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Aug 28, 2017 16:01
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Inescapable Duck posted:
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The two thieves martyred with Christ are OBVIOUSLY in the Knightmare, with Batman as Christ. Yes in the dream the roles are reversed
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Aug 28, 2017 16:11
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Yes in the dream the roles are reversed A lot of films do obvious Jesus symbology. Very few introduce the Christ-figure as a Luciferian star plummeting from heaven.
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Aug 28, 2017 16:26
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Superman meets Lex Luthor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVq-JWdyvGI
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Aug 28, 2017 16:27
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I wish David Bowie hadn't died before he could play a DC villain.
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Aug 28, 2017 16:40
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Bowie was a tremendous actor, I always took his casting as a stunt because he frankly sucks rear end in most stuff he's famous for acting-wise. But I'm glad to have been proven wrong.
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Aug 28, 2017 16:42
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Bowie was a tremendous actor, I always took his casting as a stunt because he frankly sucks rear end in most stuff he's famous for acting-wise. But I'm glad to have been proven wrong. Yep. He's painful in, say, Labyrinth, which seems to be the go-to when people talk "David Bowie, movie star." But he's phenomenal in Fire Walk With Me and Last Temptation. I remember reading once somewhere that he was offered the villain role in A View to a Kill before Walken was. That's one of those great "What might have been..." castings.
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Aug 28, 2017 17:17
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Today would be jack Kirby's 100th birthday btw. https://twitter.com/Toadsanime/status/902203064106528770 He and Kirby would be friends
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Aug 28, 2017 17:25
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I always wondered what Kirby would look like in Jack Kirby's art style. Thank you.
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Aug 28, 2017 17:29
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I'd like to think that Jack Kirby would respect Kirby enough not to give him teeth (that is kind of grossing me out) EDIT: oh maybe the point there is that Kirby ate Jack and partially took on his visage, which explains the teeth
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Aug 28, 2017 17:30
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Bowie was a tremendous actor, I always took his casting as a stunt because he frankly sucks rear end in most stuff he's famous for acting-wise. But I'm glad to have been proven wrong. Yeah he's loving so bad in Labyrinth but just lmao if you think anyone else could have done as amazing as him in The Man Who Fell to Earth.
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Aug 28, 2017 17:37
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Man Who Fell To Earth was great but I honestly couldn't tell for the longest time with that movie.
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Aug 28, 2017 17:39
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GonSmithe posted:Yeah he's loving so bad in Labyrinth but just lmao if you think anyone else could have done as amazing as him in The Man Who Fell to Earth. As a huge Bowie fan myself I have to say The Man Who Fell To Earth was amazing. Labyrinth not much so, but my wife will argue he portrays a masterful performance. Colour me surprised and absolutely delighted when I saw The Prestige completely blind to find Bowie turn up as Tesla.
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Aug 28, 2017 18:51
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Bowie was really good in The Hunger even though I didn't like the flick. He'd have made a good Loki I think.
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Aug 28, 2017 19:32
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UmOk posted:Why? Is it a "not my Galactus" thing?
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Aug 28, 2017 21:58
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Halloween Jack posted:I liked Fishburne as the Silver Surfer. What I couldn't tolerate about that movie is Dr. Doom being played like a kids' movie villain. He wants to steal the Power Cosmic so he can shut down all the rec centers on Earth. The movie sucked but I'm not gonna act like if I got the Power Cosmic my first act as a god wouldn't be to stop folks I hate from being able to recreate.
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Aug 28, 2017 22:18
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Ed Skrein backed out of the Hellboy reboot for an entirely justifiable reason: https://twitter.com/edskrein/status/902244967296491520
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Aug 28, 2017 22:42
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Timby posted:Ed Skrein backed out of the Hellboy reboot for an entirely justifiable reason: Good on him. That's helluva respectable.
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Aug 28, 2017 22:44
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When's Idris Elba going to apologise to the poor Scandinavian people, then?
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Aug 28, 2017 23:54
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sassassin posted:When's Idris Elba going to apologise to the poor Scandinavian people, then? That's bait. Not biting.
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Aug 29, 2017 01:14
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I hope they do something super dumb and "unintentionally" give the part to another white guy
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Aug 29, 2017 01:26
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I hope they give it to a guy who's like 1/16 Pacific islander, 15/16 white and really pat themselves on the back
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Aug 29, 2017 01:33
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hiddenriverninja posted:I hope they do something super dumb and "unintentionally" give the part to another white guy Not all classic characters will be on movie, but there's this new exciting character called Ben Damon. He can turn into to Were-Panther. 
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Aug 29, 2017 03:09
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I hope they give it to a guy who's like 1/16 Pacific islander, 15/16 white and really pat themselves on the back They should track down and hire that real life woman Cameron Crowe swears he based Emma Stone's character on in Aloha.
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Aug 29, 2017 03:51
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https://twitter.com/ashleylynch/status/902306249575763970 Man this is going to hang a cloud over enjoying Deadpool 2 knowing they pulled a Landis
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achillesforever6 posted:https://twitter.com/ashleylynch/status/902306249575763970 Holllyyy poo poo. That sucks.
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