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Sorry your dead friend wants a magical Trump-esque solution. Maybe he should have applied himself and learned coding... *loses every election until the end of time*
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rest in peace Conan, killed by capitalism
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http://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/quote:On August 25, 2017, Federal Judge William Zloch, dismissed the lawsuit after several months of litigation in which DNC attorneys argued that the DNC would be well within their rights to rig primaries and select their own candidate. “In evaluating Plaintiffs’ claims at this stage, the Court assumes their allegations are true—that the DNC and Wasserman Schultz held a palpable bias in favor Clinton and sought to propel her ahead of her Democratic opponent,” the court order dismissing the lawsuit stated. "We can do what we want because we're a private club!" - A group of self-appointed royalty who still doesn't understand why they've lost most major elections in the past two years.
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https://twitter.com/jessieopie/status/902178442984259584 about drat time she showed up in wisconsin. a bit too late though
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Typo posted:wasn't he suppose to be a progressive? No he's a Democrat
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Typo posted:wasn't he suppose to be a progressive?
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Typo posted:wasn't he suppose to be a progressive?
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https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/902162464602763264 obama's campaign strategist is pro-fascist? wow!
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Aug 28, 2017 18:29
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Kilroy posted:Not exactly but his pitch when running to replace Pelosi as leader in the House was "we should probably try to win some loving elections" which is at least an improvement. Sadly Nancy "There Are Benefits To Being Shut Out Of Power" Pelosi carried the day. Tim Ryan is loving garbage. There's nothing sad about his challenge failing.
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Lightning Knight posted:My understanding of the issue, which may be incorrect, is that the stated reason the more conservative Assembly rejected the bill is because it doesn't come with any kind of funding provisions because the funding for it would be astronomically higher than what it should be because they have to comply with a requirement that half of all revenue goes to the school system, and to repeal that they need a ballot initiative voted on by the people, not the legislature. I actually agree that the focus specifically on that guy is misguided. The explanation for why passing single-payer wasn't feasible in California (basically what you mentioned about funding provisions) seems pretty reasonable. Effort should instead be focused on attempting to somehow fix structural issues like this. I also am kind of mixed at the idea of proposing single-payer for individual states; I would much rather have a nation-wide system. edit: I mean, I would still support single-payer in my state (or any other), but it's not ideal.
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Ytlaya posted:I actually agree that the focus specifically on that guy is misguided. The explanation for why passing single-payer wasn't feasible in California (basically what you mentioned about funding provisions) seems pretty reasonable. Effort should instead be focused on attempting to somehow fix structural issues like this. I also am kind of mixed at the idea of proposing single-payer for individual states; I would much rather have a nation-wide system. i disagree that holding congresscritters' feet to the fire is misguided dems are not taking the issue seriously in the least. threatening their jobs is the best way to get them to start leading on something that is very important to the populace they should be leading the charge, and instead they sit on their hands. we don't need another issue like gay marriage where dems do absolutely nothing until everyone else does the footwork for them, and then they swoop in to take credit Condiv fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Aug 28, 2017 |
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Aug 28, 2017 18:36
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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/902162464602763264 It's funny how offended they pretended to be by Trump's both sides are bad comment then immediately go back to pushing both sides are bad. They want to be commended for doing absolutely nothing so badly.
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Aug 28, 2017 18:38
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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/902162464602763264 "Those who disagree with our tactics must also disagree with our goals" is like 95% of this thread. Noted Jew David Axelrod must be a nazi, as he cautions against punching nazis.
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JeffersonClay posted:"Those who disagree with our tactics must also disagree with our goals" is like 95% of this thread. Noted Jew David Axelrod must be a nazi, as he cautions against punching nazis. you know who else likes to talk about both sides being bad? the fascist in chief. and by parroting his rhetoric you enable him and his little fascist goons. hence, you're pro-fascist
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Varam posted:Tim Ryan is loving garbage. There's nothing sad about his challenge failing. Agreed. He's an opportunist who tried to ride progressive discontent into becoming the minority leader, while being very standoffish about many progressive issues. To his credit, he does support Medicare for All, which is a step up from Nancy Pelosi. But hoo-boy does that quote on "tax reform" show his true colors
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Condiv posted:you know who else likes to talk about both sides being bad? the fascist in chief. and by parroting his rhetoric you enable him and his little fascist goons. hence, you're pro-fascist Also LOL at the guy in that twitter thread that was very concerned that if the left is violent Andrew Sullivan would be able to write about how violent the rhetoric of the left is. The right had already blamed Democrats saying RESIST constituted calls for Republicans to be assasinated after one dude shot the congressman at that softball game. They are still living in Cloud Coocooland where Republicans do anything in good faith so we have to make sure we don't give them ammo which they don't need to make disingenuous arguments.
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i mean this is pretty simple JC we have one side, antifa, who protect people from murderous, violent fascists. for example, rabbis, priests, etc who were protesting peacefully that fascists tried to brutalize on the other, we have fascists who shoot guns at people and murder people with their cars by saying that antifa is helping fascists, you're helping fascists. you're trying to shame the people who protect us from fascists, and telling them to stay home and not protect people from fascists. and that's pro-fascist
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i find the best way to explain antifa to liberals is to just say they're the dark knight
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god, that is probably the right approach to take with team JK Rowling how depressing
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brian posted:i find the best way to explain antifa to liberals is to just say they're the dark knight Oh drat thats actually perfect. Liberals loving love tv and movies lol
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The problem with that analogy is Antifa aren't rich so liberals like Obama's team can't trust their good judgement and sensible politics.Ze Pollack posted:god, that is probably the right approach to take with team JK Rowling Not sure it would work on Rowling since she wrote a series about fighting magical Nazi wizards and still thinks both sides are bad. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Aug 28, 2017 |
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Radish posted:The problem with that analogy is Antifa aren't rich so liberals like Obama's team can't trust their good judgement and sensible politics. one is.... 
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Antifa is like when the watchers on the wall have to leave to save those villagers from skinhead barbarians.
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Condiv posted:you know who else likes to talk about both sides being bad? the fascist in chief. and by parroting his rhetoric you enable him and his little fascist goons. hence, you're pro-fascist He's not saying both sides are bad and he's not parroting trump's rhetoric. He's criticizing antifa initiating violence at a previously nonviolent protest. He doesn't have a problem with a bunch of counterprotestors showing up and peacefully standing up to a bunch of idiot Trump supporters. He has a problem with antifa turning a nonviolent protest into a violent one. From the article he linked: quote:An anti-hate rally was disrupted when scores of anarchists wearing black clothing and masks stormed the demonstration in Berkeley and attacked several supporters of President Donald Trump. But police were able to head off any wider violence. I know you have an unfortunate nuance deficit but Axelrod is not equating anti-racists with racists here. I'm also glad to see you're so incensed about people parroting Trump's rhetoric to attack his enemies, considering you were blathering about the Clinton Foundation IRT the Russia investigation less than a month ago.
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JeffersonClay posted:He's not saying both sides are bad and he's not parroting trump's rhetoric. He's criticizing antifa initiating violence at a previously nonviolent protest. He doesn't have a problem with a bunch of counterprotestors showing up and peacefully standing up to a bunch of idiot Trump supporters. He has a problem with antifa turning a nonviolent protest into a violent one. hey so heres the thing nazi rallies are not nonviolent bceause their entire ideology is one of inciting violence against minorities
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stop hitting me i was just peacefully saying we should exterminate the niggers and jews will not replace us ow ow ow why are you initiating violence cries Reinhardt Dickface
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JeffersonClay posted:He's not saying both sides are bad and he's not parroting trump's rhetoric. He's criticizing antifa initiating violence at a previously nonviolent protest. He doesn't have a problem with a bunch of counterprotestors showing up and peacefully standing up to a bunch of idiot Trump supporters. He has a problem with antifa turning a nonviolent protest into a violent one.  just keep digging that hole. every time antifa is accused of "turning things violent" it turns out to be the other way around. happened with charlottesville, and happened with other protests. and you idiots always jump forward to defend the "poor, peaceful nazis  "you just can't help but side with trump and defend his little fascist goons can you JC?
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hey jc, do you think this guy's a victim you should defend too?
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Antifa showed up to the pro-science march in the spring in Atlanta. They had a booth and gave out flyers. The bastards.
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Condiv posted:
But why can't we just go back to the way things were where I had white privilege but didn't have to feel bad about it?
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Glazier posted:But why can't we just go back to the way things were where I had white privilege but didn't have to feel bad about it? These liberals types want to have white privilege, feel bad about it, but do nothing to end it.
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If you've got some reporting that suggests antifa were valiantly defending counterprotestors from violent right wing thugs, I'll happily say Axelrod is being a moron. But none of the reporting I've seen suggests this is the case at this rally, specifically. Maybe a vigilante mob is sometimes in the right and sometimes not? I know, I know, nuance is a neoliberal plot. https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-berkeley-protests-20170827-story,amp.html quote:Some in Berkeley worried that Sunday’s chaos, captured on video and quickly disseminated through social media, would provide unwanted ammunition to Trump and his supporters. Do you think these nonviolent counterprotestors realize they're actually secret nazis and Trump supporters because they question antifa's tactics?
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The Kingfish posted:These liberals types want to have white privilege, feel bad about it, but do nothing to end it. Do they though? I think it's more like they feel bad the way you feel bad when you see a penguin eaten by a seal, it's something inevitable and just part of the way life is.
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JeffersonClay posted:If you've got some reporting that suggests antifa were valiantly defending counterprotestors from violent right wing thugs, I'll happily say Axelrod is being a moron. But none of the reporting I've seen suggests this is the case at this rally, specifically. Maybe a vigilante mob is sometimes in the right and sometimes not? I know, I know, nuance is a neoliberal plot. i have it on good authority that antifa are good! they're good cause they punch nazis and protect people. you on the other hand defend fascists and cry that they get punched, so you are in fact a fascist supporter. i'll tell you the same thing i say to the other fascist supporter who posts in here sometimes (call to action) go away fascist enabling scum fascism sucks. and so do you go hang out with the fascists you love so much and see if they're as non-violent as you believe they are Condiv fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Aug 28, 2017 |
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