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Zore posted:And has higher base damage than a plasma shotgun. And pierces 5 points of armor. And innate crit. Yeah, but the broken bottle mod has panic, does this weapon cause panic? 
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The Reinforcement Pack is 50% off so I picked it up in anticipation of the new DLC. If I've never played any of these new missions should I do the integrated stuff or not? It kind of seems like it might be worth it to experience the stories in the Shen and Alien Hunters DLC once and I'll be playing on the normal difficulty when the expansion drops. I'm not clear on one thing - if I do the integrated DLC will I still be able to get the frost grenades that everyone talks about?
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Zore posted:Okay, it puts it on par with Saturation Fire and Rupture shot or Fanfire. All of which are capstones. 3 turns would be appropriate, 5 is pushing it into once-per-mission territory and that's dumb. Also it's easy to say it's now in the territory of those abilities because they range from poor (Saturation Fire) to pretty good (Fan fire) to really good (Rupture).
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Vasler posted:The Reinforcement Pack is 50% off so I picked it up in anticipation of the new DLC. Yes, you still get all the content its just gated by research and resources instead of you getting a scan site that gives it to you for free. Ditto with your first SPARK which you need to pay for if you integrate and get for free if you do the mission. wuffles posted:3 turns would be appropriate, 5 is pushing it into once-per-mission territory and that's dumb. Also it's easy to say it's now in the territory of those abilities because they range from poor (Saturation Fire) to pretty good (Fan fire) to really good (Rupture). Why is it dumb? Rangers already have absurdly powerful weapons with high crit, is it really necessary for them to have on top of that the best double fire ability in the game?
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Zore posted:Yes, you still get all the content its just gated by research and resources instead of you getting a scan site that gives it to you for free. Thanks for replying so quickly, I appreciate it. So having never done the story, perhaps I can just look it up on Youtube. Do you recommend just doing the intergrated DLC? I've never done the Alien Ruler or Shen mission but people here seem to be leaning towards the Alien Rulers being a pain to deal with in the base DLC.
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I deleted the final Avatar in the last mission from full hp with a single ranger using a tricked out Plasma Shotgun with Talon Rounds using Rapid Fire. 5 Turns seems pretty fair considering that
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Vasler posted:Thanks for replying so quickly, I appreciate it. So having never done the story, perhaps I can just look it up on Youtube. Do you recommend just doing the intergrated DLC? I've never done the Alien Ruler or Shen mission but people here seem to be leaning towards the Alien Rulers being a pain to deal with in the base DLC. Honestly, entirely up to you. I like the story missions a lot, but they'll pop around the same time as War of the Chosen's own story missions and it could be a bit of overload. I'd probably integrate your first playthrough and maybe enable them/diable the WOTC ones if you do another playthrough. Super No Vacancy posted:what's integrated DLC mean So the DLC works kinda weird Both have 'Story missions' you can enable or disable If disabled they just give you the poo poo for free, if enabled you have to do a story mission to get it. Integrated disables the story missions and locks the content behind research and resources so its a more normal part of progression.
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ok cool I think I want to do the story missions
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Super No Vacancy posted:what's integrated DLC mean It meant the devs felt that 3 story-heavy missions dropped at the start (While Tower and Nest can be put off forever they do appear early on) is an excellent way to create player-fatigue. So Integrated DLC turns off the Nest and Tower missions. You get your first spark waiting for you in your Proving Ground (cheap, mainly takes time to build, later ones require cash) and now the Rulers chill out in various Advent Facilities, happy as can be until you wreck the place. Only then do they go hunting for XCOM blood.
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Super No Vacancy posted:ok cool I think I want to do the story missions Note the 'integrated DLC' is only talking about Shen's Last Gift and Alien Hunters. War of the Chosen has its own story missions that are enabled/disabled seperately. Alkydere posted:It meant the devs felt that 3 story-heavy missions dropped at the start (While Tower and Nest can be put off forever they do appear early on) is an excellent way to create player-fatigue. So Integrated DLC turns off the Nest and Tower missions. You get your first spark waiting for you in your Proving Ground (cheap, mainly takes time to build, later ones require cash) and now the Rulers chill out in various Advent Facilities, happy as can be until you wreck the place. Only then do they go hunting for XCOM blood. Intergrated DLC makes the first SPARK cost the same as the rest of them, its no longer free 
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Zore posted:Note the 'integrated DLC' is only talking about Shen's Last Gift and Alien Hunters. Awww, shame. Oh well, they got buffed so it's still worthwhile. Especially since you need to have a rotating roster.
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Zore posted:Honestly, entirely up to you. I like the story missions a lot, but they'll pop around the same time as War of the Chosen's own story missions and it could be a bit of overload. I'd probably integrate your first playthrough and maybe enable them/diable the WOTC ones if you do another playthrough. So if I understand this correctly, not enabling the integrated DLC will give me the distinct possibility of a normal story mission, DLC mission and WotC mission all popping up in rapid sequence? And there's also a new fatigue-type system in place? It does sounds like it could be a bit much.
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Also, as a reminder to everyone, all the upgrades except for the +squadsize ones and the class perks were taken out of the GTS. Vulture/Wetworks etc are all now resistance orders tied to various factions. Vasler posted:So if I understand this correctly, not enabling the integrated DLC will give me the distinct possibility of a normal story mission, DLC mission and WotC mission all popping up in rapid sequence? And there's also a new fatigue-type system in place? It does sounds like it could be a bit much. Yeah. You can postpone the DLC missions forever, they're green and easy to spot on the map, but that's the stated reason they implemented integrated DLC as they did.
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:Sparks don't get battle fatigue but they can't form bonds right? Correct. They also can't go on covert ops, which means no easy promotions or random stat boosts. (I am going to mod the ini so Sparks can bond ASAP since its literally 1 line in the code)
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MikeC posted:seems unlikely GMG will have their keys at launch. bugger, wanted to get some missions in before bed Yep, issued a refund request on GMG and just bought a copy via Steam, not going to sit around and hope that keys get sent out tonight when GMG has gone dead silent other then saying 'it's not our fault'. Edit: Aww yeah, it's downloading! Here we go! Edit2: Ooof, thirty gigs. Wish Steam would let you preload DLC, but whatever, it's only an hour. Random Asshole fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Aug 29, 2017 |
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Zore posted:
Yeah because to make best use of it (close range, flanking) you have to position more dangerously than other soldiers. Its dumb because while its fine to need to ration certain resources during a mission, its better if those abilities have charges/uses than long CDs. 8 turn mission - I'm holding RF in my back pocket "just in case" and may never even use it 12 turn mission - I'm going to use it ASAP on the first pod so it'll be back up when I will probably need it around turn 6-7 Untimed missions - If I'm at all worried about needing it, I'll use it and then make sure to time my engagements so its up which means waiting for CDs If they were gonna slap a 5 turn CD on it, I wish they'd have just made it 2 charges a mission with no CD.
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I'm a bad person who got a cheap Amazon copy and am trying to resell it...anyone want a key for $29 Amazon Gift Card :v ?
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30GB update... RIP playing tonight 
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IT'S DOWNLOADING. IT IS ALSO HUGE???
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gently caress I had to delete my whole install to install in since apparently 37 free gigs isn't enough on my SSD
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Seems pretty lame to not be able to preload and it's 30 GB.
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Zore posted:Also, as a reminder to everyone, all the upgrades except for the +squadsize ones and the class perks were taken out of the GTS. Oh! That's an interesting mechanic. I can see why they give it some extra thought. Hmm, what to do...I think I'll do as you recommended and just integrate. Thank you! I too have not received a GMG code yet - hopefully we'll all get one soonish and everyone can go slay aliens throughout the night.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:Seems pretty lame to not be able to preload and it's 30 GB. This really should have been pre-loaded. I guess I can still do late night work and maybe be able to play it before going to bed.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:Seems pretty lame to not be able to preload and it's 30 GB. yeah its pretty dumb. 35min until DL complete at least 
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It out! It out! It...HUGE! 
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Got my Humble Store key right away! Time to make some posters!
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i guarentee you that the reason we couldnt preload it is because its dlc and valve never bothered to integrate preloading for anything that isnt a new title into steam
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Yeah frankly if you can't preload DLC then you shouldn't be able to sell 30GB DLC. Like I'll be okay because I live in the land of gently caress You, Got Mine but my heart goes out to my bros in Australia et al. Edit: I went to check GMG to see if my key had been released yet and it looks like they're getting HAMMERED. Guess I'm not surprised. Super glad I did it this way, waiting in vain for GMG to load for god knows how long and then finding out it's a 30GB download would have been pretty loving awful. Random Asshole fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Aug 29, 2017 |
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juggalo baby coffin posted:i guarentee you that the reason we couldnt preload it is because its dlc and valve never bothered to integrate preloading for anything that isnt a new title into steam It's something they do need to fix. I'm sure once Valve realizes its something they should do they'll figure out how to shove it in.
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Meanwhile, I'm just sitting here thinking "Well, Green Man Gaming was an experiment, and looks like that experiment has failed, never using them again." Literally the only reason I'm not submitting a refund request is because they gave a discount.
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Haha GMG is either getting DDoS'ed or experiencing technical problems right now--their website just started freaking out/disappearing on me. No GMG key yet either.
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Well so much for playing tonight lmao This is probably for the best honestly. If I played it tonight I probably wouldn't be able to go to sleep at a reasonable time.
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Alkydere posted:It's something they do need to fix. I'm sure once Valve realizes its something they should do they'll figure out how to shove it in. eh i wouldn't count on it, this is valve we are talking about
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Meanwhile, Amazon has charged me for my $9.99 pre-order, but isn't giving the key until 12am pst.
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lol GMG's site is exploding. some people say they have keys but my account page is down. Seems like they have a script or something to just dump the keys into ppl's account at midnight and their server's can't handle the F5 load
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