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how the gently caress were they unable to find any evidence of malfeasance? the recording released on our own loving twitter should be evidence enough of malfeasance, god drat.
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Karl Barks posted:https://twitter.com/Columbus_DSA/status/902355553393025024 I bet Business Gorillas is jacking off furiously
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Syndlig posted:how the gently caress were they unable to find any evidence of malfeasance? the recording released on our own loving twitter should be evidence enough of malfeasance, god drat. they looked at danny's behavior purely in the context of the election and didn't factor in his actions as co-chair imo this is the proper way to do things and i wouldn't be too surprised if the pro-expulsion crew brings this up again and focus on his actions as Chairman Danny
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Looks like our next best hope is for Austin to oust this dude, which is probably not gonna happen.
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rudecyrus posted:Looks like our next best hope is for Austin to oust this dude, which is probably not gonna happen. Maybe we can just puff up and make loud noises and scare him away
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basically the Chairman Danny poo poo is hosed up and he really should be gone but if the pro-expulsion people tried to get him kicked out purely on lying about CLEAT (which is stupid), i can see where they're coming from edit: Autism Sneaks posted:I bet Business Gorillas is jacking off furiously
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man whoever made that linkedin has been more wildly successful at wrecking poo poo than they could have imagined
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why even stick around if these votes are being held? does Danny have nothing better to do than be in an organization where more than half the leadership doesn’t want him?
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Business Gorillas posted:basically the Chairman Danny poo poo is hosed up and he really should be gone but if the pro-expulsion people tried to get him kicked out purely on lying about CLEAT (which is stupid), i can see where they're coming from Him being Chairman Danny is way worse than his CLEAT work. Like, I was feeling sympathetic for him for a while, but now it's not even a question of whether he should keep his seat. Someone like that shouldn't even be in the org in the first place.
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TrilliontonNixon posted:Him being Chairman Danny is way worse than his CLEAT work. Like, I was feeling sympathetic for him for a while, but now it's not even a question of whether he should keep his seat. Someone like that shouldn't even be in the org in the first place. i entirely agree and if we're getting into that territory, its a pretty big fuckin deal that there's more thought behind purging members beyond "log off binch" (this is me saying that we need to hammer out exactly how to kick someone out of the org before we do it. half-assing it now is gonna bite us in the rear end later, sort of like how all of this could have been avoided if someone took a 2 hour meeting to hammer something out once in the past 30 years of the org) Business Gorillas has issued a correction as of 05:57 on Aug 29, 2017 |
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safely sodomized posted:man whoever made that linkedin has been more wildly successful at wrecking poo poo than they could have imagined nice brag post
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freckle posted:nice brag post fuckk
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fermun posted:https://twitter.com/kittystryker/status/902294891501195264  Struggalo Circus funding goal met, they can afford to send 3 people to DC next month. There were, by my count, at least 11 painted up Juggalos in Berkeley yesterday. I'm loving loving that there are woke Juggalos showing up to anti-fascist marches.
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Larry Parrish posted:Alright Maria Svart appropriating y'allidarity is honestly far more annoying to me than anything else in the last month of DSA drama Y'all's our word she isn't allowed to say it!  I'm being sincere btw
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Dreddout posted:Y'all's our word she isn't allowed to say it! I sincerely do not want any flatlander cityslicker coastal piece of poo poo speaking for me in any context lmfao.
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safely sodomized posted:man whoever made that linkedin has been more wildly successful at wrecking poo poo than they could have imagined the fbi
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Is there literally anybody working on trying to figure out who made that account? Is there any way to figure it out?
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Hi comrades! I recently joined the MN DSA chapter. Seems pretty nice so far. Our local chapter had a really nice discussion about prison abolition and how do we work towards a society that doesn't rely on the heavily armed police for protection. Calling 911 is likely to end up with someone dead or otherwise having their life ruined by imprisonment, but many people will still call the police because there aren't many other options. One approach that was brought up was to reform law enforcement by putting accountability measures, deescalation training, and disarming most officers. It just seems difficult since cops have so little oversight. Any thoughts? If this has already been discussed, that's cool, just been thinking about this.
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Zenos Paradise posted:Hi comrades! I recently joined the MN DSA chapter. Seems pretty nice so far. Our local chapter had a really nice discussion about prison abolition and how do we work towards a society that doesn't rely on the heavily armed police for protection. no no no you can't reform law enforcement that's how you get censured by the npc
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jarofpiss posted:no no no you can't reform law enforcement that's how you get censured by the npc Are you sure you aren't actually a bucket of poo poo?
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GunnerJ posted:Is there literally anybody working on trying to figure out who made that account? Is there any way to figure it out? After finding out how Danny runs local meetings, the prime suspect is "literally anyone/everyone in the Austin DSA."
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jarofpiss posted:no no no you can't reform law enforcement that's how you get censured by the npc National Physique Committee?  I'm definitely open to more radical solutions too, if you'd like to share any suggestions.
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Been saving some money and am thinking of buying a button maker. What size buttons do people think are best? I've been thinking 2".
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OhFunny posted:Been saving some money and am thinking of buying a button maker. What size buttons do people think are best? I've been thinking 2". I've got a bunch of 2" I never wear because they're too huge to put on my normal shirts without looking goofy as gently caress. 1-1.5" is probably best imo.
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OhFunny posted:Been saving some money and am thinking of buying a button maker. What size buttons do people think are best? I've been thinking 2". Yeah, not so small it would be part of a cluster but not so big as to make the wearer a buster
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Karl Barks posted:https://twitter.com/Columbus_DSA/status/902355553393025024
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Do you guys think bylaws and such are just totally irrelevant, to be ignored when it's convenient? It's not the role of the NPC to creatively interpret resolutions and bylaws, until they reach the outcome that the people yelling at them want them to reach: it's their job to follow a procedure, to the best of their ability. That's it. They've done that. That's the most you can expect. Don't like it? Welcome to the real world, the place where you don't get everything you want, even when everything is done right.
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rudatron posted:I don't know why you guys are upset, this is actually a really mature response by the NPC Yeah, I think that it's probably the "least worst" thing they can do. That said, it's kind of amazing he doesn't take one for the team and resign. Whatever good he can bring to the NPC will be overshadowed by all the negatives (justified or not) of the controversy.
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Lumpy posted:Yeah, I think that it's probably the "least worst" thing they can do. That said, it's kind of amazing he doesn't take one for the team and resign. Whatever good he can bring to the NPC will be overshadowed by all the negatives (justified or not) of the controversy. Yeah. They're actually following the rules of the organization. The communication around it has been dumb, especially WRT vague noise on Twitter, but I think the vote and rationale are reasonable. Also, imagine how this would've played out if danny resigned or something as soon as it happened, did some work around police/prison reform for a bit, and ran again in 2019 maybe better maybe the exact same way because ACAB is a really popular sentiment, especially in the new guard?
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Zenos Paradise posted:Hi comrades! I recently joined the MN DSA chapter. Seems pretty nice so far. Our local chapter had a really nice discussion about prison abolition and how do we work towards a society that doesn't rely on the heavily armed police for protection. disarming cops is probably going to be the most effective thing to do but also the hardest to convince the general pop of
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Praxis was the name of the moon around Qo'noS whose destruction was the plot of Star Trek VI. Makes u think
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Raskolnikov38 posted:disarming cops is probably going to be the most effective thing to do but also the hardest to convince the general pop of Hell even demilitarization would be an easy first step but can you imagine the cop outrage at taking their miltoys away from them?
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Community Outreach 200k tweets Political Advocacy 150k tweets Philosophical Discussion 800k tweets A dude in a police union 3,600k tweets Candidate Recruitment 150k tweets someone who is good at the politics please help me budget this. my revolution is dying
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In the spirit of forcing y'all motherfuckers to read more google docs here's the minority vote's statement on mediation/the vote. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XeajP-4S_HjLONZLiFpzujBC3JdUpkOqmS4VEJXAByc
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New members fb group chiming in! https://twitter.com/scottsurette/status/902524701288927232
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an actual dog posted:New members fb group chiming in! lol I saw this post and several others like it and they're universally written by incredibly old white people that get ripped to shreds in the replies. I don't know why they keep trying
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Syndlig posted:In the spirit of forcing y'all motherfuckers to read more google docs here's the minority vote's statement on mediation/the vote. They apparently do NOT have receipts or else they would have been able to unseat Danny with them
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Slanderer posted:posts like this from someone who will never join the DSA make me think you are less than forthright hes got a point it is in texas
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rudatron posted:Do you guys think bylaws and such are just totally irrelevant, to be ignored when it's convenient? It's not the role of the NPC to creatively interpret resolutions and bylaws, until they reach the outcome that the people yelling at them want them to reach: it's their job to follow a procedure, to the best of their ability. That's it. They've done that. That's the most you can expect. Literally nothing anyone wanted the NPC to do was outside the scope of what the bylaws permitted them to do, lol. This bullshit argument requires pretending that "malfeasance" is some well-defined super duper bad poo poo that Fetonte clearly didn't do, when it's not actually well defined as such at all and the same article defining "things that the NPC can vote to expel you for" explicitly includes missing two meetings. Again, it's complete horseshit to claim that the people who think the NPC made the wrong call are some kind of unreasonable mob that doesn't care about democratic principles like due process. Everyone condemning Fetonte called for actions within the scope of what the process permitted. At best you can argue that nothing he did constitutes "malfeasance" but that's it. Nobody is ignoring that requirement, they disagree about whether any of his actions apply.
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the people in austin who want him gone just need to work to vote him out of power in november(?). that's where he can be the most damaging anyway.
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