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blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

Say, do you know how to do the walk?

Veskit posted:

I was reading the thread, clicked on how she got probated, noticed she has a huge list within a year, then made a comment on it. 99.9% of the time commenting on someone's probation isn't an issue, did I break a something awful norm/unofficial rule that you aren't supposed to talk about someone's rap sheet in a thread?

I think the point of contention is that she actually has to put in any work at all to get probated. Your initial post sounds very condescending.

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Veskit
Mar 2, 2005

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blackguy32 posted:

I think the point of contention is that she actually has to put in any work at all to get probated. Your initial post sounds very condescending.

Well when you make someone for getting probated/banned once a week over a year yeah that'll happen.



Comedy forum and all.

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Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
This article is spectacular.

http://www.theroot.com/taylor-swift-and-the-tale-of-unstoppable-white-privileg-1798469369

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
So what did happen with that whole Smith-West thing? I know about him grabbing the mike to give Beyoncé a shout when Smith was about to get awarded, and I know about her releasing an album shading him on the anniversary of his mother's death, and I know there was... something... about West vetting something with her that she then pretended he hadn't, but I don't feel I know the overarching narrative, and the sources I've found have been so laser-focused on specific details that they only confuse me further.

Waterbed Wendy
Jan 29, 2009

Darth Walrus posted:

So what did happen with that whole Smith-West thing? I know about him grabbing the mike to give Beyoncé a shout when Smith was about to get awarded, and I know about her releasing an album shading him on the anniversary of his mother's death, and I know there was... something... about West vetting something with her that she then pretended he hadn't, but I don't feel I know the overarching narrative, and the sources I've found have been so laser-focused on specific details that they only confuse me further.

read the article and the underlined links in the article for the whole story. i just did and it took me less than 10 minutes.

Morby
Sep 6, 2007

I love this so much!

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
The most recent thing is West clearing a line about Taylor on Famous to Taylor her giving the OK and then playing victim when the song came out, Kanye said he got clearance and she lied and said he didn't. Then Kim dropped a video of the conversation and TayTay switched it to her problem being called a bitch and not the I made her famous part(which is the only thing she brought up previously)

Morby
Sep 6, 2007

Dexo posted:

The most recent thing is West clearing a line about Taylor on Famous to Taylor her giving the OK and then playing victim when the song came out, Kanye said he got clearance and she lied and said he didn't. Then Kim dropped a video of the conversation and TayTay switched it to her problem being called a bitch and not the I made her famous part(which is the only thing she brought up previously)

And, to be fair, the entire incident (which was drat near 10 loving year ago at this point) has been nothing but a boost to her fame. She has milked Kanye being rude for years and years. She talks about it on every interview she can, every public appearance, has written multiple songs about it, it was old news 6 months after it happened. It's really pathetic.

blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

Say, do you know how to do the walk?
I am still stuck in the great Houston flood of 2017. I can't really go very far due to the water level and my car being too low.

I have been trying to get to work at the hospital but can't make it out there.

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
I've always felt Kanye was treated unfairly by the media and I've come to his defense whenever my white friends have something to say about him.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

blackguy32 posted:

I am still stuck in the great Houston flood of 2017. I can't really go very far due to the water level and my car being too low.

I have been trying to get to work at the hospital but can't make it out there.

Are you in any imminent danger or mostly just stuck annoyingly? How hard should I panic?

Morby
Sep 6, 2007

Gaunab posted:

I've always felt Kanye was treated unfairly by the media and I've come to his defense whenever my white friends have something to say about him.

Until Kaepernick came along he was pretty much the only black guy it was socially acceptable for large groups of white folks to publicly say they hate.

cis autodrag posted:

Are you in any imminent danger or mostly just stuck annoyingly? How hard should I panic?

Also, this. Is it at all possible for you to call in and say the roads are impassible?

blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

Say, do you know how to do the walk?

cis autodrag posted:

Are you in any imminent danger or mostly just stuck annoyingly? How hard should I panic?

No immediate danger. Its just impassible roads.

Morby posted:




Also, this. Is it at all possible for you to call in and say the roads are impassible?

My job understands, I am actually ready to help out, but I have no way of getting there.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Gaunab posted:

I've always felt Kanye was treated unfairly by the media and I've come to his defense whenever my white friends have something to say about him.

Kanye is what you call a problematic fav.

Most of what white people get on Kanye about is usually laughable and usually overreacting.

The real problematic poo poo Kanye says is stuff about Black women, like Amber, his Trump stuff, and Racism doesn't exists crap.

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

Dexo posted:

Kanye is what you call a problematic fav.

Most of what white people get on Kanye about is usually laughable and usually overreacting.

The real problematic poo poo Kanye says is stuff about Black women, like Amber, his Trump stuff, and Racism doesn't exists crap.

And I will wilfully forget all of that while some pretty white bitch drags his name through the mud. He is mine to rake over the coals. He needs to go down for saying his actual mean poo poo to Amber, not get disparaged by a precleared music prowrestling beef.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
So I quit drinking recently, and am going through some stuff, and I had a question for a friend, but to make things easy, let's just use me as an example.

I lie about the internet about my race, because when people find out I'm half white + see a picture of me, they either A.) Assume I'm lying, or B.) get really weird and racist.

I don't know why I came out the way I did, but I (my friend) was raised in a black community, was adopted by black parents, and lived a for lack of a better word, black life.

Is it wrong to just go by being white for as long as I can pass? It makes my life easier, and it doesn't matter to my foster mom, and if I was white raised by her I'd still be white, and for all purposes of racist / oppression I'm white. So is it a super big deal for me to just keep telling people I'm white?

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Turtlicious posted:

So I quit drinking recently, and am going through some stuff, and I had a question for a friend, but to make things easy, let's just use me as an example.

I lie about the internet about my race, because when people find out I'm half white + see a picture of me, they either A.) Assume I'm lying, or B.) get really weird and racist.

I don't know why I came out the way I did, but I (my friend) was raised in a black community, was adopted by black parents, and lived a for lack of a better word, black life.

Is it wrong to just go by being white for as long as I can pass? It makes my life easier, and it doesn't matter to my foster mom, and if I was white raised by her I'd still be white, and for all purposes of racist / oppression I'm white. So is it a super big deal for me to just keep telling people I'm white?

Passing is 100% Negrotown approved as long as you promise that anytime you're alone in a room of yts starting sentences with "I'm not racist but..." you unleash the dramatic reveal. You gotta let 'em get a few good ones in first though, to really make it count.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

Passing is 100% Negrotown approved as long as you promise that anytime you're alone in a room of yts starting sentences with "I'm not racist but..." you unleash the dramatic reveal. You gotta let 'em get a few good ones in first though, to really make it count.

This is a thing I have done, although not usually on purpose. It's fine when it's some meth head saying "I heard this neighborhood was full of...GONG" so you can hide in plain sight until you can hide for real. But don't do it with someone you want to be friends with or any trust-based relationship. yts will take no time at all to get racist as gently caress behind closed doors and it's always as soon as you think it's ok to trust them.

I was at the neurologist yesterday for chronic pain and it says caucasian instead on mixed race/black on my paperwork and I didn't correct it because I had been waiting over a year for this appointment and doctors treat black patients, especially black patients in pain like poo poo. They literally think we have tougher skin and a higher pain tolerance and are more likely to be drug seekers. I obviously can't know for sure but holy poo poo that was the nicest anyone has been to me on my 36 month-long quest to find out what the gently caress was wrong with me.

Also, I quit drinking a few months ago now. It really sucked at first, but now I'm glad I did. If you ever need talk, I got your back.

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

blackguy32 posted:

I think the point of contention is that she actually has to put in any work at all to get probated. Your initial post sounds very condescending.

I think that perception of posts and context isn't bannable, but whatever. I love how assuming wrongthink is the new cool and good thing.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



PathAsc posted:

I think that perception of posts and context isn't bannable, but whatever. I love how assuming wrongthink is the new cool and good thing.

When I probated him with a sixer, I had several people from several different messaging platforms reach out to me and tell me incredible stories about what a piece of poo poo that guy is. One of them was a mod. He was on his way out anyway. He held no value to the community. This was not a decision that was made on that post but rather something that was discussed and approved.

I am not not your black supervillain.

But I can be.

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

Koalas March posted:

When I probated him with a sixer, I had several people from several different messaging platforms reach out to me and tell me incredible stories about what a piece of poo poo that guy is. One of them was a mod. He was on his way out anyway. He held no value to the community. This was not a decision that was made on that post but rather something that was discussed and approved.

I am not not your black supervillain.

But I can be.

I'm unsure what black has to do with it, but thank you for the explanation. Seriously, that's good to see.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



PathAsc posted:

I'm unsure what black has to do with it, but thank you for the explanation. Seriously, that's good to see.

Because when I ban people for being racist there are groups associated with kiwifarms and Sass that constantly used the term wrong think when describing my probations. they say that I'm a black bitch, they say that I'm a webcam whore they say that I'm a black supremacist who hates white people despite being half white. They threatened me to the point that Lowtax himself was disturbed by it. They treat me like I'm the General in the race war against white posters. They specifically say that I am punishing people for wrong think.

the problem is that they don't know what goes on behind the scenes they don't know my relationship with other mods. They don't take any of posting history or relationships with other posters into consideration.

Wiccan Wasteland
Oct 15, 2012

Koalas March posted:

This is a thing I have done, although not usually on purpose. It's fine when it's some meth head saying "I heard this neighborhood was full of...GONG" so you can hide in plain sight until you can hide for real. But don't do it with someone you want to be friends with or any trust-based relationship. yts will take no time at all to get racist as gently caress behind closed doors and it's always as soon as you think it's ok to trust them.

I was at the neurologist yesterday for chronic pain and it says caucasian instead on mixed race/black on my paperwork and I didn't correct it because I had been waiting over a year for this appointment and doctors treat black patients, especially black patients in pain like poo poo. They literally think we have tougher skin and a higher pain tolerance and are more likely to be drug seekers. I obviously can't know for sure but holy poo poo that was the nicest anyone has been to me on my 36 month-long quest to find out what the gently caress was wrong with me.

Also, I quit drinking a few months ago now. It really sucked at first, but now I'm glad I did. If you ever need talk, I got your back.

The bolded is the one thing that has made it hard for me to see any specialist my doctor sends me to. I always have to ask them how old the doctor is before I consider going to them due to their preconceived notions of black people. After a really bad experience with a recommended cardiologist I haven't asked to have my particular issue looked at again.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

PathAsc posted:

I'm unsure what black has to do with it, but thank you for the explanation. Seriously, that's good to see.

Why do you feel entitled to an explanation about a probation anyway?

As for Veskit, he has been slowly losing his mind over time and his whole shtick here has been to try to get probated and try to get on ignore lists. He seems to be projecting that onto anyone else with a long rap sheet too.

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

Elephant Ambush posted:

Why do you feel entitled to an explanation about a probation anyway?

As for Veskit, he has been slowly losing his mind over time and his whole shtick here has been to try to get probated and try to get on ignore lists. He seems to be projecting that onto anyone else with a long rap sheet too.

I never asked for an explanation, nor do I feel entitled to one. Calm down, I can admit to being ignorant to his history in posting in all the threads he's in.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

PathAsc posted:

I'm unsure what black has to do with it, but thank you for the explanation. Seriously, that's good to see.

Because as frequently as people forget, this thread is still Negrotown, a thread for discussing black issues. Of which there are more than a few, yet the only thing you and yours want to discuss is black posters.

PathAsc posted:

Calm down
Like clockwork.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
"I am unsure what blackness has to do with anything" said the guy posting off-topic in Negrotown.

Fluffdaddy
Jan 3, 2009

The guy who has never posted in this thread suddenly swoops in to start posting about posting is almost a tradition of negrotown at this point.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
Anyone who uses the "comedy forum" defense should get 100,000 hours by default anyway.

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

Yes, you're right, no one may come into a thread and discuss what has happened. And sure, it's the black thread, but I'm wrong to ask about things that come off as defensive? How is asking for clarification on a statement a bad thing? No I don't post on here, but I try to read every once in a while because I feel there's good discussions to see.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

PathAsc posted:

Yes, you're right, no one may come into a thread and discuss what has happened. And sure, it's the black thread, but I'm wrong to ask about things that come off as defensive? How is asking for clarification on a statement a bad thing? No I don't post on here, but I try to read every once in a while because I feel there's good discussions to see.

And phase 3 is engaged. Quick reminder to everyone that phase 5 is "IF I TURN RACIST NOW IT'S YOU PEOPLE'S FAULT!" so be sure to get your jibes in on time so you can get a shoutout in his shooting spree vid.


Nobody would mind a new poster who actually had on-topic things to discuss, but "I'm not a part of this but I came here to say you're doing it all wrong!" is no more welcome here than it would be in Games or SAS. Yet for some reason people feel much more entitled to act that way in here than in those places.

If only there were some thread where black people could discuss black issues, so we could figure this one out.

Tiny Brontosaurus fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Aug 29, 2017

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat
On the topic of Blackness. Schools started and I need more militant shade throwing articles. I'm a fan of the Bodega Boys and reading VSB/TheRoot, does anyone have an recommended sources?

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

And phase 3 is engaged. Quick reminder to everyone that phase 5 is "IF I TURN RACIST NOW IT'S YOU PEOPLE'S FAULT!" so be sure to get your jibes in on time so you can get a shoutout in his shooting spree vid.


Nobody would mind a new poster who actually had on-topic things to discuss, but "I'm not a part of this but I came here to say you're doing it all wrong!" is no more welcome here than it would be in Games or SAS. Yet for some reason people feel much more entitled to act that way in here than in those places.

If only there were some thread where black people could discuss black issues, so we could figure this one out.

Look, I'm trying to follow your logic and the phase thing, I don't get it but I'd like to. I felt it was on topic and I was interested in it because I talk to Veskit outside of the forums and consider him a friend. I've never experienced hostility from him, so maybe you could see why I wanted to take a look. Doesn't matter, I derailed and need to stop and just keep reading.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe



Basically Taylor Swift.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

PathAsc posted:

Look, I'm trying to follow your logic and the phase thing, I don't get it but I'd like to.

She's saying you're following a pattern of people who come into this thread.

Morby
Sep 6, 2007

KirbyKhan posted:

On the topic of Blackness. Schools started and I need more militant shade throwing articles. I'm a fan of the Bodega Boys and reading VSB/TheRoot, does anyone have an recommended sources?

Luvvie Ajayi/Awesomely Luvvie

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

xthetenth posted:

She's saying you're following a pattern of people who come into this thread.

Well poo poo, that makes the reaction make perfect sense. I would hope that wouldn't be an issue but it is.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



PathAsc posted:

Well poo poo, that makes the reaction make perfect sense. I would hope that wouldn't be an issue but it is.

We are kinda always on the defense due to harassment and trolling. You are welcome to stay and lurk or discuss if you're comfortable with that.

I like that people read this thread to learn things about our perspectives as black Americans and racism, privilege etc. I am always encouraging and welcome new posters, as long as they're respectful. But like any sub on the forums, it's a good idea to lurk for awhile.


If it interests you (& other lurkers) I'll suggest that you go back and read some of the older pages, it will lay bare exactly the type of poo poo we have been dealing with.

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

Koalas March posted:

We are kinda always on the defense due to harassment and trolling. You are welcome to stay and lurk or discuss if you're comfortable with that.

I like that people read this thread to learn things about our perspectives as black Americans and racism, privilege etc. I am always encouraging and welcome new posters, as long as they're respectful. But like any sub on the forums, it's a good idea to lurk for awhile.


If it interests you (& other lurkers) I'll suggest that you go back and read some of the older pages, it will lay bare exactly the type of poo poo we have been dealing with.

Makes sense, I can never personally know what it's like, but I'd like to understand more fully. I only know what friends/relatives in my area would tell me. I do need to go back many pages and see what has gone on. I'll always be comfortable discussing subjects, if I have something I feel is worth saying.

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Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Race and Class Are the Biggest Issues Around Hurricane Harvey and We Need to Start Talking About Them



quote:

Right now the nation just sees flooding and burly, boat-owning white dudes saving people from immediate disaster. There’s no talk of what is happening to Houston’s vast population of disproportionately low-income black and brown residents. And public officials, like Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner and Texas Gov. Greg Abbott—each playing public hot potato over who will, ultimately, bear responsibility for a lackluster response—don’t seem to care about that part, either. And forget about any shred of empathy from President Donald Trump.

Yet the socioeconomic aspect of Harvey is the biggest part of the story. We’re already seeing those random television reports of frustrated black women stuck in flooded apartment buildings, getting busy signals for 911 and helplessly watching helicopters fly overhead. That’s already getting worse because several hundred thousand Houston-area residents didn’t have the luxury of packing up and leaving, despite Abbott’s calls to do so.
...

Houston was already in over its head with poverty numbers as high as the next round of flooding: Nearly 30 percent of Houston residents struggle with income below the poverty level, along with 17 percent of Harris County residents. And nearly 26 percent of black residents in Houston are living below the poverty level, surpassed by 27 percent of Latinx residents.

In a more glaring data point, 45 percent of households earning $10,000 or less in income are black, while 80 percent of households earning $200,000 or more are white. So if your neighborhood is flooded out, where the hell do you go?


Creeping deep below the fast-rising floodwaters of Harvey are the countless thousands who have no home insurance, no assets to tap into for recovery, no savings (if any) to access for a sudden move and no transportation options when cars get flooded (if they have those). And since federal disaster response—including an underfunded National Flood Insurance Program—is geared toward homeowners, those who either rent or who are stuck in public housing find even fewer options. As was the case post-Katrina, black families end up receiving fewer dollars on average for home recovery because they live in undervalued neighborhoods.

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