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RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

After reloading it a few times to figure out what it wants you to do I've got it.

With psionic transmitters:
-Ignore all enemies at all costs until you get to a relay. If you engage a squad, ignore it. You don't have time. Take potshots with a unit or two, send everyone else up.
-There is only one or two relays on your half of the map. There are three or four near the bomb.
-The objectives are worded poorly. You only need to put the bomb on the transmitter to stop the countdown (for some reason). You can kill everyone later.
-If it's a sewer level every now and then send a soldier back to the start of the map. The line of sight is busted and you may have missed a relay or two.

I finished on my fourth try with one turn left. Basically the transmitter missions expect you to unlearn XCOM 2 and relearn what you did on Bomb missions in XCOM 1, but with a third of the time and relays.

Also, are priests broken? I engaged one right at the start and it never did anything but double move in circles.

e: BTW don't try to be clever and slap a Will PCS mod on a unit who's about to tire out or get a negative trait. It doesn't work. :v:

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Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
When I did the relay mission there were plenty of relays on the map. It didn't seem very mad.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Internet Kraken posted:

When I did the relay mission there were plenty of relays on the map. It didn't seem very mad.

Maybe I just got a real fucker of one then, but I've been hearing similar comments from other people. I've never had a problem with timers before now lol.

I may need to restart this campaign anyway. Too few soldiers and I forgot to pump rookies into the GTS.

Overdrift
Jul 17, 2006

This is Fatherman! He fights crime to earn Sonboy's respect! Is it working?

I can't really tell if the Chosen DLC is active or not. I'm about 2-3 hours into a new game and so far everything seems exactly the same as the last time I played XCOM2.

LaserShark
Oct 17, 2007

It's over, idiot. You're gonna die here and now, and the last words out of your mouth will have been 'poop train.'
Just started a game, skipped the tutorial, and since the 'archaic weapons' are available as a research option I'm guessing the Alien Hunter DLC quest line isn't going to show up, just the non-story aspects? Was kind of wanting to have that and SLG as part of it. I saw the options at the beginning but they confused me.

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015

Overdrift posted:

I can't really tell if the Chosen DLC is active or not. I'm about 2-3 hours into a new game and so far everything seems exactly the same as the last time I played XCOM2.

If you're not sure, then it's not active. Trust me, they make it VERY obvious that you've loaded it, right from the title screen.

Bruceski posted:

Look for the button on the launcher. It's a toggle.


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LaserShark posted:

Just started a game, skipped the tutorial, and since the 'archaic weapons' are available as a research option I'm guessing the Alien Hunter DLC quest line isn't going to show up, just the non-story aspects? Was kind of wanting to have that and SLG as part of it. I saw the options at the beginning but they confused me.

If you want to play through the story aspects, then un-select "Integrated DLC" when starting a new campaign; that will allow you to activate the Alien Nest and Lost Towers story missions. Otherwise, they're adjusted to fit their gameplay content into the game without the story mission. Playing around with the fatigue mechanics now, I can see why they would have wanted to disable those by default. Those missions will play absolute hell with your soldiers' stamina.

BlazetheInferno fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Aug 30, 2017

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

Y'all need to use the double mission timers. Your blood pressure will thank you for it and it attenuates the problems in battlescape since you have time to move more methodically.

cyxx
Oct 1, 2005

Byon!

Overdrift posted:

I can't really tell if the Chosen DLC is active or not. I'm about 2-3 hours into a new game and so far everything seems exactly the same as the last time I played XCOM2.

Are you on Mac? Steam let my wife buy the DLC but turns out it doesn't work for OSX yet!

MikeC
Jul 19, 2004
BITCH ASS NARC
How bad is it to send tired soldiers out again? I just hit my first haven defense and its in chosen territory. I really want my best guys in the fight.

Overdrift
Jul 17, 2006

This is Fatherman! He fights crime to earn Sonboy's respect! Is it working?

BlazetheInferno posted:

If you're not sure, then it's not active. Trust me, they make it VERY obvious that you've loaded it, right from the title screen.

Thanks. God knows how many more hours I would have wasted.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

MikeC posted:

How bad is it to send tired soldiers out again? I just hit my first haven defense and its in chosen territory. I really want my best guys in the fight.

Its not that bad. Sending tired soldiers out more means they are gonna take longer to get back to peak condition and are more likely to develop negative issues. If you can afford to give them more time off after the mission its not a big deal, but if you are gonna need to keep using them it won't work out.

Gunder
May 22, 2003

I think they may have piled on a few too many mechanics this time around. Feels like it's groaning under the weight of it all.

year199X
Oct 9, 2012
Grimey Drawer
What's the deal with the VIP extraction mission you get early on where the chosen spawns right next to the VIP and proceeds to immediately splatter him :psyduck:

64bitrobot
Apr 20, 2009

Likes to Lurk
Been enjoying this very much.

Then this happened.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/863984115679832658/5B5A6A233D10027A1A36A285FDE3455E2D8BED52/

And everything was great.

Then.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/863984115679833146/8E2A5FAACFFEDD0402F8CA94B05E8780B0304FD8/

I have none to blame but myself.

Reaper is a Nonbo with Momentum. You lose the momentum move.

64bitrobot fucked around with this message at 07:54 on Aug 30, 2017

dud root
Mar 30, 2008
Any point to playing the tutorial? Is it changed? I've finished the original half a dozen times

aegof
Mar 2, 2011

rabidsquid posted:

the chosen not pausing the mission timer on the supply raid missions is beyond annoying and made it impossible to finish the mission with a decent amount of supplies.

I ran into a Chosen on a supply raid mission before I even touched the first crate, and Advent didn't lift a single crate out for the entire map, I think because I didn't grab any until I had killed the Chosen and every pod on the map. It might've been a bug, but I think the answer here is to take your time before you claim the first crate, and make sure you know if a Chosen will show up or not.

Caros
May 14, 2008

Good game, but holy poo poo gently caress the Chosen boss fights.

I'm not sure if they expect you to go in fully maxed out, but my whole squad ended up as crippled, nervous wrecks after that fight. Two enemies spawning per turn, including a berzerker and an archon while also having to burn down the stupid sarcophagus with its 8,000,000 hp.

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

My chosen got the reaper and explosives weaknesses so every time she shows up I melt her because a single claymore does 14 damage.

MadJackMcJack
Jun 10, 2009
I love the fact that your propaganda posters get plastered all over the Avenger :allears: I wonder if you find them in Resistance Havens as well....

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


Overdrift posted:

I can't really tell if the Chosen DLC is active or not. I'm about 2-3 hours into a new game and so far everything seems exactly the same as the last time I played XCOM2.

my dude, did you not select war of the chosen from the game launcher? theres a little box at the bottom to switch between the two.

the mission to rescue my little advent stun lancer hasnt popped up yet

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

RBA Starblade posted:


I finished on my fourth try with one turn left. Basically the transmitter missions expect you to unlearn XCOM 2 and relearn what you did on Bomb missions in XCOM 1, but with a third of the time and relays.

Hey, I also finished on my fourth try (or so)! I was stupid and didn't pay attention to the instructions though, so I thought the nodes were explosives and beelined the transmitter with a Reaper.

This went better than expected at least after gratuitous save scumming. I only had to sacrifice a rookie (who made for a glorious shirtless memorial poster) and kite 2 pods of MECs, purifiers, and priests.

hito
Feb 13, 2012

Thank you, kids. By giving us this lift you're giving a lift to every law-abiding citizen in the world.

vosk posted:

what the hell does the 'workshop construction' research do? After I completed it, workshop still cost 150 supplies, 40 days, 3 power. (it's actually more power than in regular xcom2? workshop got nerfed? thought it was 1 in vanilla)

It does what it says on the tin, it's just that Workshops cost 300 supplies now.

Viridiant
Nov 7, 2009

Big PP Energy

MadJackMcJack posted:

I love the fact that your propaganda posters get plastered all over the Avenger :allears: I wonder if you find them in Resistance Havens as well....

I was fighting some advent in the sewers and when one of them took a shot at me I noticed that they were standing right next to one of my posters plastered on the wall. Your propaganda really gets around.

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes

DrManiac posted:

My chosen got the reaper and explosives weaknesses so every time she shows up I melt her because a single claymore does 14 damage.

Mine too. It's the assassin and besides the scripted capture she has been clowned every time she has appeared. Once I set off the claymore with a SPARK rocket just to double gently caress her.

I think I was pretty luck with research. I got improved conventional weapons as like my third research, which was great, but it was slightly diminished by getting Mag weapon breakthrough as something like my 5th tech. Welcome to earth, fuckos.

Also my character pool includes both me and my dog. First mission together we turned out to have the highest cohesion :kimchi:

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'
So I decided to play with the tutorial stuff since I hadn't touched XCOM 2 since it first came out.

But it kind of sucks because it's like hours of scripts and story missions and so on before you get to feel like you start playing.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
So uh, that first challenge mission was a bit of a doozy.

Did anyone have a particularly good performance they want to brag about?

Hats Wouldnt Fly
Feb 9, 2010

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Redfont is my hero.
Has anyone found a mod/option that prevents the camera from zooming itself back in after every shot/enemy turn? It's getting kind of frustrating having to zoom out constantly.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Are you guaranteed to get an opportunity to rescue a captured operative (from being left behind on a mission, not by the chosen)? My Skirmisher got knocked out by a spectre on the rooftop of an extraction mission with 1 turn left and my squad was so beat up that I didn't want to risk losing anymore of them. I know I can do a covert op to get another one but levelling them up is kind of a pain and he was pretty levelled up. Also, could I have used revival protocol on him to get him up and get rid of the copy or do you have to kill the copy/spectre? Not really sure about what they do, I usually make them top priority so they get a cascade of missiles and grenades to the face, this one just came in quite late and hosed me up.

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes
You can revive Spectered troops, although the copy stays up too.

Covert ops giving promotions is pretty nuts. I got an LT and then put him on 3 Ops each giving a promotion and taking 4-7 days and now I have a Colonel :getin:

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Dang, so I could have just revived him and extracted on the same turn with a specialist and then had him run and extract. Oh well, thanks. That's something to remember. That was probably the worst mission I've had in an Xcom game. Had to bring my mid tier guys cause of tiredness/injury and a surprise MEC rocket barrage took half of them down to 1 HP so the rest of the mission was a cautious creep up and then run to the extraction job.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Seriously it blows me away how good this DLC is:
  • Engine improvements so impressive I'm still not convinced they're not black magic
  • New units and toys to play with
  • New enemies to fight that are actually creative and interesting
  • New and intelligent mechanics to mix things up
  • An absolute boatload of new lines and chatter that better fleshes out the world.
  • Even more efforts to mix up the game with random events so that now to campaigns are quite the same.

Sultan Tarquin
Jul 29, 2007

and what kind of world would it be? HUH?!

Alkydere posted:


[*]An absolute boatload of new lines and chatter that better fleshes out the world.


I would be okay with this one if the game would just stop spamming me with monologues from all the loving bad guys. Oh my god I turned off ambient narrative I don't need to hear a minutes speech every time a chosen shows up or I get back to base.

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes
So the Colonel level Specialist skill that flies around healing and reviving everyone? Does not removed Dazed UNLESS they are also injured. Kinda annoying and seems like it might be a bug, since I am fairly sure Revival protocol does remove Dazed.

Darkrenown fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Aug 30, 2017

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Does anyone have any idea what they're doing with the base layout now because I don't. :v: My upper level is the Ring, GTS, Power in that order. Workshop would be under GTS with power and radio on left and right but it costs way more now so welp. Guess I'll renovate in the future. :v:

Also is it possible to get more than one Reaper?

PlasticAutomaton
Nov 12, 2016

Artoria Pendonut


RBA Starblade posted:

Also is it possible to get more than one Reaper?

Yeah. There's random covert actions that pop up to recruit the resistance classes.

Dervyn
Feb 16, 2014
GTS does not benefit from being adjacent to a workshop. You want facilities that can slot in engineers for that.

If you want more faction heroes, you need to raise influence to high with their respective faction. Then you need to go on a covert ops to get them. Oppurtunity costs have prevented me getting more so far though. Been concentrating on raising influence for more order slots and reducing avatar progress.

Parenthesis
Jan 3, 2013

RBA Starblade posted:

Also is it possible to get more than one Reaper?

Yes it is possible to get more than one of each of the hero classes. You will need to improve your influence with the faction (say, help to hunt their paired-off chosen), and then perform a covert ops to actually aquire them. Two of each unit type is the hard cap however.

ditty bout my clitty
May 28, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe
A quick way to tell if war of the chosen is installed correctly? It's been three in game weeks and I've yet to see anything I haven't before.

Parenthesis
Jan 3, 2013

ditty bout my clitty posted:

A quick way to tell if war of the chosen is installed correctly? It's been three in game weeks and I've yet to see anything I haven't before.

Do you have the ability to make propaganda posters of your squad after each mission? If so, you should be running WotC. If not, see here.

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Hats Wouldnt Fly
Feb 9, 2010

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Redfont is my hero.
I kind of regret preordering this. It's so good, they've made so many great changes, but until a couple quality of life mods update actually playing it is insanely frustrating.

Why the hell isn't Gotcha a baseline UI piece? C'mon Jake.

ditty bout my clitty posted:

A quick way to tell if war of the chosen is installed correctly? It's been three in game weeks and I've yet to see anything I haven't before.

Look at the launcher more carefully. You launched the base game.

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