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Al Letson talked about Antifa and his thing from Berkeley on Reveal this week. Y'all should probably give it a listen.
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The 'Antifa' is a closer to home boogeyman for people who think Mexicans are rapists and the terrorists hate our freedoms.
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MA-Horus posted:Based off of what, exactly? 2017. I don't know why the gently caress everything thinks I'm equating the two. I'm more curious about "what happens next" because I have a hard time just believing everything is going to settle down when the white supremacists figure out that today isn't their day.
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Godholio posted:2017. That's called a Whataboutism, and antifa will diminish when Nazis/KKK feels less comfortable marching in the streets. The PROBLEM is the KKK and Nazis. That's it. Don't try to make the antifa out to be anything more than it is, because that's largely what they are trying to do in equating both sides. This is the sort of poo poo the KKK and Nazis being more vocal is encouraging: http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2017/08/29/georgia-republican-warns-democrat-she-could-go-missing-over-criticism-of-civil-war-monuments/ CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Aug 30, 2017 |
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every grunt when they get back home https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG6DifUtPvs
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Godholio posted:2017. Antifa haven't just magically popped up this year but what do i know I was murdered by antifa in the UK after the EDL fell apart leaving them without purpose and am now actually a ghost
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Antifa haven't just magically popped up this year but what do i know I was murdered by antifa in the UK after the EDL fell apart leaving them without purpose and am now actually a ghost Tell us spirit, are these the shadows of the things that will be, or are they shadows of things that may be, only? 
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Godholio posted:2017. Go back to breaking windows at Starbucks during anti-globalism demonstrations?
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Godholio posted:2017. Most will peel off and join groups like the DSA or Food Not Bombs or go back to regular activism, there might be a core that tries Black Bloc tactics at big globalization events but the cops are pretty good at beating the dogshit out of those guys so they never amount to much. Think of Antifa as the white blood cell reaction of the body politic to the rise of the hard right. When the disease is beaten back, they tend to fade back into the body.
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joat mon posted:Go back to breaking windows at Starbucks during anti-globalism demonstrations? You know who else broke storefront windows.....
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:You know who else broke storefront windows..... ....Hitler?
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I will go with never happened or actually a plot by bill Clinton because no one in America can seem to remember beyond five years or not have their memories altered by talking heads. gently caress there are people I know that think antifa is actually a no poo poo organized gang that started in America really recently. Instead of loosely aligned groups and individuals who have been coming out to punch nazis since the international brigades.
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KildarX posted:I will go with never happened or actually a plot by bill Clinton because no one in America can seem to remember beyond five years or not have their memories altered by talking heads. gently caress there are people I know that think antifa is actually a no poo poo organized gang that started in America really recently. Instead of loosely aligned groups and individuals who have been coming out to punch nazis since the international brigades. Those Bundy's were just defending the American homefront like patriots!  Which is pretty much the spin they put on 8 years of Militia and Right Wing Nutcase Nonsense.
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joat mon posted:Go back to breaking windows at Starbucks during anti-globalism demonstrations? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVldfXHFlCU&t=150s
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Take that capitalism! *Insurance pays for the window and some poor working stiff has to clean it up.
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It's pretty crazy that prosecutors can't get a conviction of Bundy supporters pictured pointing rifles at federal agents, yet black bloc protesters in DC are facing like 70 years in prison following mass arrests on Inauguration Day. Doubt they'll actually get sentences that high, but come on. There's no moral equivalence between anarchists engaged in property destruction or low level fistfights with white supremacists and the ascendant alt-right and/or far right Neo-Nazis.
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Godholio posted:2017. You have been given examples of it from many countries. Have a hard time believing, but take facts and history into account and your feelings on the matter look more sensational than rational.
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Quote of the day, by AFL-CIO head Richard Trumka. https://twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/902899413059817472
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Casimir Radon posted:Take that capitalism! That makes like 5 jobs. MAGA
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M_Gargantua posted:That makes like 5 jobs. MAGA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkFAcFtBD48
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suboptimal posted:It's pretty crazy that prosecutors can't get a conviction of Bundy supporters pictured pointing rifles at federal agents, yet black bloc protesters in DC are facing like 70 years in prison following mass arrests on Inauguration Day. Doubt they'll actually get sentences that high, but come on. There's no moral equivalence between anarchists engaged in property destruction or low level fistfights with white supremacists and the ascendant alt-right and/or far right Neo-Nazis. Yea I dunno how you can draw moral equivalency when no poo poo KKK and literal Nazi's are backing one side. Those guy's primary stance is "America for whites only" at it's least and at it's most hosed is "Maybe we can ask Pizza Hut who makes their ovens and Home Depot if we can get a discount on bulk orders of Rope." Unless of course you're afraid of other people enough that you actually believe everyone to the left of that goal post literally want to treat white people in that same direction.
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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/30/opinion/erik-prince-contractors-afghanistan.html Erik Prince: Contractors, Not Troops, Will Save Afghanistan
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Hot Karl Marx posted:https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/30/opinion/erik-prince-contractors-afghanistan.html gently caress him for comparing the Flying Tigers to his Mercenaries.
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Hot Karl Marx posted:https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/30/opinion/erik-prince-contractors-afghanistan.html The New York Times opinion page is becoming the WSJ opinion page, and the WSJ opinion page is becoming Breitbart.
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Hot Karl Marx posted:https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/30/opinion/erik-prince-contractors-afghanistan.html
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Hot Karl Marx posted:https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/30/opinion/erik-prince-contractors-afghanistan.html Understatement of the last century is also the best passage is in the first paragraph: "Japanese Aggression in China"
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:You know who else broke storefront windows..... Oswald?
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Best Friends posted:The New York Times opinion page is becoming the WSJ opinion page, and the WSJ opinion page is becoming Breitbart. yeah pretty much
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:You know who else broke storefront windows..... IS IT NAZIS
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Hot Karl Marx posted:https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/30/opinion/erik-prince-contractors-afghanistan.html This guy wants to be Naked Snake but he's actually Stupid Snake.
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suboptimal posted:It's pretty crazy that prosecutors can't get a conviction of Bundy supporters pictured pointing rifles at federal agents, yet black bloc protesters in DC are facing like 70 years in prison following mass arrests on Inauguration Day. Doubt they'll actually get sentences that high, but come on. There's no moral equivalence between anarchists engaged in property destruction or low level fistfights with white supremacists and the ascendant alt-right and/or far right Neo-Nazis. Looks like the most heavily charged got 4 months in prison plus probation.
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CSPAM is starting to turn into LF, geez.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:IS IT NAZIS yes, this has been a Kristalnacht joke. thanks everyone for reading, god bless
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Casimir Radon posted:CSPAM is starting to turn into LF, geez. Early LF or late LF? I'm down for some effort threads, less interested in the screeching blame game/ persecution Olympics.
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Casimir Radon posted:CSPAM is starting to turn into LF, geez. Oh do share.
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The Iron Rose posted:Oh do share.
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Not sure how whining and victim-roling hasn't gotten old yet...wait, no, it's because of his position. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/902885560552960000
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Dammit Duzzy I was just coming here with that. I feel it's worth noting he posted this at the same time: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/902881712010653697 Trump, a tip - it looks a little insincere when you start screaming about how unfairly you've been treated in the same breath as expressing your condolences to people who have lost everything.
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Casimir Radon posted:The Vanilla ISIS thread is starting to turn into more whining about "liberals" who aren't completely down with putting people up against the wall, tha. It is about far right assholes. Not even Nazis marching around will stop the circular firing squad. jesus you really weren't kidding always found it funny that that lot whines more about their erstwhile allies - liberals - far more than they whine about (or vote against) the people actively opposed to everything they hold dear.
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