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No albert, no log lady Hyper-competent-coop Dougie Jones, international man of mystery
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Aug 30, 2017 16:07
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also totally dougies gonna be 'tarded lol and the only coop left i wager
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Aug 30, 2017 16:07
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I can't loving wait to get the Blu Ray of this season. Hopefully there's lots of behind the scenes stuff.
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Aug 30, 2017 16:11
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How long do you think it'll be until they release the series on Blu Ray? I feel like showtime is gonna milk this because this show has been literally the only time I've thought "I should pay for showtime"
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Aug 30, 2017 16:14
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Quantum of Phallus posted:I can't loving wait to get the Blu Ray of this season. Hopefully there's lots of behind the scenes stuff. I'm really interested in how those final scenes he shot with Catherine Coulson went.
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Aug 30, 2017 16:20
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Capntastic posted:I can't stop thinking about the music cue when Cooper wakes up. We had an entire scene centred around Laura's Theme in, what, episode 3 or 4.
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Aug 30, 2017 16:21
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Elias_Maluco posted:I would say it was the best episode but its really hard to pick in this show. In any case, it was so loving amazing. I loved every scene of it, every moment. This is really, one of the best TV series ever done, I have no doubt about it The tension involved with him in the coma and it getting finally relieved made me yelp and swear out loud repeatedly. I don't think I can watch this around a lot of people. And the Diane scene had me at the edge of my seat. Any other show I know the characters are safe, but who the gently caress knows with this show. The best show. The best. Quick question: the first coordinate given to Booper was what Diane transmitted in the bar a few eps ago right (she got it from Bill Hastings)? The second one is from Ray as he was about to die. And the third one was Teapot Jeffries. So which ones are the fakearounds/an attempt on Booper's life? I'm guessing Ray's and Jeffries, there's been a conspicuous attempt by Mike and others to get Booper killed, and no doubt Ray is involved in that. e: Klungar posted:Are we supposed to believe that Diane was telling the truth about Janey-E being her half sister? I figured that was just a lie Blooper had her tell to get the rest of the FBI crew to go to Las Vegas. I have no doubt that Booper used her familial connection like he used the rest of her. Why track down another human when Diane was already there. I really hope they bring her back for some sort of redemption over that dick.
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Aug 30, 2017 16:35
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I love how the Mitchum bros just immediately gas up that plane for Dougie. That's the type of thing that would feel lame and contrived in another show but Lynch somehow makes it both funny and endearing.
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Aug 30, 2017 16:38
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so wait, ray was a good guy?
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Aug 30, 2017 16:43
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I laughed pretty hard when it cut to Dougie in a coma
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Aug 30, 2017 16:47
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Baloogan posted:so wait, ray was a good guy? Sort of. He was working with (allegedly) Jeffries, and his plan was to put the ring on Booper after blasting him on the side of the road, but the darkness hobos intervened before he could do it.
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Aug 30, 2017 16:48
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CJacobs posted:Sort of. He was working with (allegedly) Jeffries, and his plan was to put the ring on Booper after blasting him on the side of the road, but the darkness hobos intervened before he could do it. This all seems a bit sketchy to me - Jeffries' involvement, that is. All he says is, "I called Ray." Also, didn't someone say they pitch-altered the voice that called Bad Coop in episode 2 and said "Bob will be back with me" and such, and it turned out to be Sarah Palmer's voice? Was there any truth to that? Because I would find that extremely interested, if Sarah Palmer (or whatever is in her) somehow has its own agenda and intentions that we are barely aware of. Could perhaps be Jeffries is more of a red herring than we thought? I always figured Major Briggs to be more important. Oh well. I know we have 2 hours (maybe more? maybe the final episode will be an hour and a half like GoT?) to go, but it just seems like there are still so many threads and character arcs. You've got an entire set of real life characters to sorta deal with: The Coops, The Mitchums, Janey-E and Sonny Gym, Everyone locked up at the sherrif's station - Naido, James, Freddie, Chad, Drunk Guy... You've got Sarah Palmer of course, Audrey and Charlie, you've got Ben Horne, his assistant, and the ringing in the basement of the great northern, Jerry wandering still, Norma and Ed seem OK so thats all wrapped up but you have what happened to Becky, and Shellie and Bobby and Gersten and Steven's death. But then you have all the more mysterious characters left to deal with like MIKE and BOB and The Fireman and his female companion whose name I cannot recall, and the Evolution of the Arm and his doppleganger and The Model/Experimental Model, and of course the dead characters appearing in the lodge like Laura and Leland... I'm not saying Lynch needs to explain this stuff (and much more) or revisit ALL these characters and ideas. I'm more saying that I'm hoping he will contexualize them. Somehow bring them into focus in a manner somewhat similar to how Episode 8 brought certain aspects into focus while giving us more to think about. I hope my expectations aren't too high.
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Aug 30, 2017 17:09
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I seriously wonder if we're gonna get any more Ray Wise at all. Would be sad if that like 5 second scene was his only appearance. Also hahaha @ "Sonny Gym"
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Aug 30, 2017 17:11
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Ginette Reno posted:I love how the Mitchum bros just immediately gas up that plane for Dougie. That's the type of thing that would feel lame and contrived in another show but Lynch somehow makes it both funny and endearing. hearts of gold kaworu posted:This all seems a bit sketchy to me - Jeffries' involvement, that is. All he says is, "I called Ray." I dont suppose they will explain all of this, but I really hope they are going to surprise us with a hooks to S4, which will be announced right after the finale
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Aug 30, 2017 17:14
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kaworu posted:This all seems a bit sketchy to me - Jeffries' involvement, that is. All he says is, "I called Ray." they voice said "i missed you in new york" which would imply, if the voice does turn out to be sarah, that sarah is the thing in the box too.
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Aug 30, 2017 17:18
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Shageletic posted:
Not a quick question. The short answer is that we don't quite know yet. The logical answer is that Ray and Jeffries were working together and gave the matching trap coordinates but there's a lot that could contradict that. We never actually saw Diane send any coordinates until this last episode, when she only sends them after recieving the  ALL message. When she sends she says 'I hope this works' as if it was the trap. But that scene takes place *after* the trap coordinates are visited. Diane sending trap coordinates there isn't the only possible explanation, and even that explanation only raises more questions (how did she get a matching trap coordinate?))And of course if Jeffries is actually working against coop that means he was lying in their meeting which complicates other thing even further. There could still be a fourth coordinate source we still don't know about. It's confusing and I'm not sure we'll ever get a clear answer. The Walrus fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Aug 30, 2017 |
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Aug 30, 2017 17:41
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Escobarbarian posted:I seriously wonder if we're gonna get any more Ray Wise at all. Would be sad if that like 5 second scene was his only appearance. every boy needs a jim set
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Aug 30, 2017 17:41
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anyone else never hear it referred to as a "gym set" until this show? i've always known them as jungle gyms but that could just because im a coastal elite
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Aug 30, 2017 17:44
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Two comprehension questions for this last episode: Was this episode the first time the word "tulpa" has been used to refer to the dopplegangers? I didn't read Secret History yet. Is the fight that breaks out during Audrey's Dance definitely between two characters other than James and that girl's husband? My first read of this scene was that it was an example of the Roadhouse acting as a nexus between realities, as suggested in the first 3rd of season 2--so Aubrey was witnessing some crossover between her reality and James's. But from reading posts in here it seems that it was a different fight? Is that actually 100% clear on a rewatch?
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Aug 30, 2017 17:46
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eshock posted:Two comprehension questions for this last episode: Tulpas and doppelgangers aren't the same thing - one is your shadow self, the dweller on the threshhold, guardians of the black lodge. tulpas are manufactured entities, like golems kinda edit: doppelgangers seem to have a lot more agency than tulpas The Walrus fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Aug 30, 2017 |
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Aug 30, 2017 17:48
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First time "tulpa" is mentioned were in episode 15, I guess, when Albert is explaining to Tammy the blue rose case
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Aug 30, 2017 17:51
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https://twitter.com/mfrost11/status/902934117259526150
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Aug 30, 2017 17:52
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eshock posted:Two comprehension questions for this last episode: Tammy mentions the term when she's told about the old blue rose case. Not sure of the answer to the second question- I've seen people say that you can hear different names being spoken in the audio of Audrey's seen compared to who was there in the James scene, but I'm not convinced it's not the same scene and she's just got a filter that's altering her perception so she can't quite recognize familiar things.
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Aug 30, 2017 17:54
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About the roadhouse, Im convinced that there is the real Roadhouse, as seen on James scenes, for ex. And there is the dream roadhouse, seen in the Audrey scene and other scenes with unknow characters. I hope that will be somehow addressed in the finale
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Aug 30, 2017 17:58
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Origami Dali posted:When Cole goes back to Twin Peaks, he's def gonna bang Shelly this time. SHELLY? I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU THE OL' PICKLE TICKLE, IF THAT'S ALRIGHT, MY DEAR? *gestures about having sex*
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Aug 30, 2017 18:01
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Escobarbarian posted:It's unlikely there'll be another one, but it isn't yet confirmed that there won't be. The official word is that talks between Showtime and Lynch will begin after the whole season has aired, but realistically I don't think it's been anywhere near as much of a hit as they would like. From what I understood it's been the most successful show in Showtime's history due to streaming numbers and signups for their own proprietary streaming service. They're making more money off of it than any of their other shows, I could have sworn I read somewhere. It's only tanking in live TV ratings which haven't really mattered for years.
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Aug 30, 2017 18:19
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Elias_Maluco posted:About the roadhouse, Im convinced that there is the real Roadhouse, as seen on James scenes, for ex. And there is the dream roadhouse, seen in the Audrey scene and other scenes with unknow characters. I hope that will be somehow addressed in the finale Yeah we may have been seeing the dream roadhouse in a couple other scenes. The one with Sky Ferreira and her terrible rash come to mind.
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Aug 30, 2017 18:26
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Some people were thinking the Renault brother being there would indicate the real roadhouse, but doesn't a third, never before mentioned Renault that looks exactly like the dead Jacques kind of indicate that it's the opposite?
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Aug 30, 2017 18:28
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moist turtleneck posted:How long do you think it'll be until they release the series on Blu Ray? I feel like showtime is gonna milk this because this show has been literally the only time I've thought "I should pay for showtime" Hopefully soon. I really want to binge the whole season again Plus we don't even get Showtime here
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Aug 30, 2017 18:35
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real glad you came around on dougie, twocups.
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Aug 30, 2017 18:41
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The Walrus posted:Some people were thinking the Renault brother being there would indicate the real roadhouse, but doesn't a third, never before mentioned Renault that looks exactly like the dead Jacques kind of indicate that it's the opposite? Twin Peaks has always been so... Highly stylized and bizarrely self-aware that it really and truly can be difficult to tell when it's being ironic, sincere, neither, or both. That's probably what makes the "Audrey's Dance" scene so wonderfully uncomfortable yet perfect, at least for me. I am left sitting there and watching, wondering whether this is self-aware post-modernism of some sort, or a sort of ironic campiness, or pure aesthetics with no rhyme or reason, or if it's meant to resonate on a symbolic level... And the oboes are swelling louder and louder as I'm thinking this and Audrey's dancing is turning downright hypnotic and I hit upon it: experiential, this is meant to be entirely ephemeral and experiential and it's meant for me to think these exact thoughts. And then it abruptly ends and reality just *zap* plugs right back in. Just like waking up from a long, vivid dream.
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Aug 30, 2017 19:09
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Martman posted:Goons might do well to imitate this redditor. it kind of depresses me that people define their lives by the media they consume to this extent, but good on this dude for being happy i guess
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Aug 30, 2017 19:21
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Baloogan posted:so wait, ray was a good guy?
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Aug 30, 2017 19:30
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Ballz posted:Candie's body language here is very touching. She clearly has major anxiety issues and upon hearing someone else confirm her belief that the Mitchum Brothers have good hearts, it's a cathartic moment of sorts for her. She's not crazy or airheaded or anything like that (although I'm willing to concede she may have a touch of the Less substantial but more hilarious, Jim Belushi drinking his Bloody Mary. We need a gif.
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Aug 30, 2017 19:35
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). Her love and loyalty is validated and re-enforced, which is something that had been deeply shaken following the incident with the remote.
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Tolkien minority posted:it kind of depresses me that people define their lives by the media they consume to this extent, but good on this dude for being happy i guess People are under a lot of stress, Tolkien.
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Aug 30, 2017 19:36
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So, something occurred to me, and I really hope it's not gonna set people off, but I want to discuss it anyway.  Ages ago, there was an article about how Diane dresses and how she decorates her room in an "oriental" fashion. The author was basically laughed at because the article was all like: "this is a problematic problem". I think there's something to it, though. Let's look at the images in question, and let's also add Diane's latest dress:    I've been reading some of Kate Chopin's short stories. One of them, An Egyptian Cigarette, reminded me of Diane. It's about a woman who trips out on some dank Egyptian cigarettes and dreams of an abusive lover who is described like this: "He smiled and showed his cruel white teeth as he turned to look at me crouching here." So, the story has got at least some similar imagery to Diane's description of her rape. There is an article about this short story that notes: Sara deSaussure Davis posted:The “Egyptian" of the title euphemistically and exotically denies a not uncommon American phenomenon of Chopin’s day. Nineteenth-century American distilleries often added opium derivatives to their products to induce addiction and additional sales. The products included soda-fountain drinks, tonics of all sorts, whiskies, and cigarettes. […] In fact, opophagia, or opium eating, was a major if untalked about medical and social problem in Chopin’s day. […] Commenting on the high percentage of women addicts, Haller and Haller quote one contemporary physician who said the cause of their addiction was "their lives—doomed, often to a life of disappointment, and, it may be, of physical and mental inaction." So, I think Diane is coded "oriental" on purpose. She drowns her suffering in alcohol and cigarettes because she feels trapped. By wearing these old fashioned "problematic" clothes, Diane becomes similar to the woman in the short story who sees glimpses of a different life when she smokes her cigarettes. Diane's clothes are drawing a parallel to the 19th century and a history of a male society trapping women in hopeless situations. It indicates that this is not only a current issue, but one that's existed for centuries. Back then it was opium, now it's Chinese designer drugs. It goes back to episode 8 and the detonation of the nuclear bomb, the source of evil, slowly spreading outwards. This current season is depicting people still dealing with issues that started a long time ago. In some cases, they are maybe 25 years old (like Big Ed and Nadine or Cooper and his doppelganger), but the violence against women that we see over and over again in this show is ancient. Becky gets (presumably) killed by her abusive junky boyfriend. Richard Horne threatens and beats defenseless women into submission. Even Audrey's dream husband keeps her in control through some sort of contract. And More fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Aug 30, 2017 |
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Aug 30, 2017 19:53
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Jerusalem posted:I think I've rewatched,"I AM the FBI" at least a dozen times now Hell yeah! This season has been incredible all around, and this episode was a major slam dunk. Everything about how they handled this was terrific. The two part finale on Sunday will be one of the best movies of the century. And this season is the best 18 hour movie ever.
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Aug 30, 2017 20:36
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Vikar Jerome posted:real glad you came around on dougie, twocups. I think on a rewatch I will definitely appreciate him more. Especially now Coop is back
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Aug 30, 2017 20:40
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Just had a disturbing thought. The tulpas have golden orbs in their chests, right? Coop said the Mitchum brothers have hearts of gold. What if... he was being literal?   
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Aug 30, 2017 20:47
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The Walrus posted:Not a quick question. The short answer is that we don't quite know yet. The logical answer is that Ray and Jeffries were working together and gave the matching trap coordinates but there's a lot that could contradict that. We never actually saw Diane send any coordinates until this last episode, when she only sends them after recieving the In that scene where Diane uses the coordinates to find that it is in Twin Peaks, and Booper texts her about Las Vegas (am I conflating two eps?), didn't she send him the coordinates then? I'm not sure.
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