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Memento posted:throw to first drat IT means they should have been using ropes to maneuver the load
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 11:33 |
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atomicthumbs posted:i shold probably stop drunkposting about people dying on the job and go to bed I first read that as you being drunk at your job posting about people dying and thought that is very apt. for this thread.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 11:34 |
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atomicthumbs posted:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41104451?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 11:52 |
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Collateral Damage posted:Anyone know what chemicals they had that had to be kept cool? Someone mentioned various organic peroxides earlier, but I'm looking for more details. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumene_hydroperoxide From a link in the below http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq-phillydeals/philly-chemical-maker-tries-to-keep-flooded-texas-plant-from-exploding-20170830.html I don't know if that's the only thing at the plant.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 11:59 |
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atomicthumbs posted:every niosh face report is a frozen tragedy, analyzed from every direction, pinned in place with needles of protocol, fixing it to the backing board by the steps that could have been taken to prevent a worker''s death. dozens of tragedies lain side by side, neatly categorized, in a table, assigned numbers. no written safety protocols. no guardrails. inadequate training. safety interlocks disabled. no confined space permit. inadequate breathing apparatus. no incident management procedure. the worker was told by his boss to ignore procedure in order to save time. the worker climbed into the machine to free the mechanism. over and over and over again, the same deaths play out in different and novel and hideous ways, taking a new life each time. Sounds the intro to some kind of show, for some reason I overlaid the law and order into music over the first part.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 12:01 |
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spankmeister posted:Is ladder logic still heavily used or have engineers moved on to "real" languages? Ladder logic is pretty rigorous, redundant, and easy to read if you adhere to proper coding I would never let a computer scientist ever touch code for something used in manufacturing
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 12:12 |
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I was playing through Half-Life again and I keep ticking off in my head all the things you have to do to progress that are massively stupid. I lost count of confined space entries by the time the marines showed up. One does have to wonder, though, how many preventable deaths Black Mesa saw even when things weren't going to hell, looking at some of the architecture.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 12:35 |
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Sounds like you should play Infra. It's pretty much OSHA: The Game.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 12:51 |
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Am I the only one noticing that the direction the tracks are rotating are the same direction he's running, making this either a great optical illusion or fake as poo poo?
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 13:06 |
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Zipperelli. posted:Am I the only one noticing that the direction the tracks are rotating are the same direction he's running, making this either a great optical illusion or fake as poo poo? I'm guessing it's an artifact of the camera sync rate
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 13:17 |
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atomicthumbs posted:tired: badly propped up ladder! that dude could fall off lol
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 13:21 |
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Nocheez posted:Why do we park in a driveway, but drive on a parkway!? Someone should lower the parkway 2'.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 13:40 |
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 13:52 |
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Old Swerdlow posted:Anyone asking for matchmaking for raids apparently has not played the Echo Chamber strike with regular folk. Moving a ball to another place before being able to shoot at the boss is just too much for a regular person to handle when they just want to run through a level, shoot dudes and get some stuff. This ball sounds particularly dangerous, it should be secured by tethers or similar.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 13:54 |
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Old Swerdlow posted:Anyone asking for matchmaking for raids apparently has not played the Echo Chamber strike with regular folk. Moving a ball to another place before being able to shoot at the boss is just too much for a regular person to handle when they just want to run through a level, shoot dudes and get some stuff. While shooting at management is often morally right, it is against regulations.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 13:55 |
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Whoops. Totally posted in the wrong thread. Thats what I get for phone posting on the toilet.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 14:03 |
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Keiya posted:I was playing through Half-Life again and I keep ticking off in my head all the things you have to do to progress that are massively stupid. I lost count of confined space entries by the time the marines showed up. It's all above board, the hazard suit is the ultimate PPE.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 14:05 |
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haveblue posted:It's all above board, the hazard suit is the ultimate PPE. No hard hat.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 14:32 |
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Differing points of view Arkema (in Houston flood): We had "two explosions followed by black smoke". Harris County sheriff: We had a "series of chemical reactions"; he also referred to them as "a series of pops". quote:“I don’t want the public thinking these are massive explosions,” Royall told reporters. Attempting to explain why the plant operator called them explosions while local authorities did not, Royall said: “We’re on the same page. It’s a matter of terminology. I call it a chemical reaction and an overpressure of the container.”
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 15:23 |
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Old Swerdlow posted:Whoops. Totally posted in the wrong thread. Thats what I get for phone posting on the toilet. that's how you get pink eye
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 15:43 |
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This has been posted before, but worth seeing for those who skipped a bunch of pages. Safety cage for inflating a large tire. https://i.imgur.com/20MQV95.mp4
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 15:54 |
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Three-Phase posted:Newer stuff allows you to combine ladder with things like structured text and function blocks. Ladder logic is still very useful because it's very easy to program and understand. The problems is that as you want to do more complicated stuff it can get clumsy. Yeah, I'm making one machine that sometimes has to tie into a DCS and boy howdy, do I hate them with a passion. I just want my machine to sit fat, dumb, and happy without anybody bothering me about the 50 points they need over the dumb communications protocol of the week holding up commissioning and thus me being able to go home and sleep in my own drat bed. But yeah, on-line editing is a lifesaver. On our safety critical application, we have it where if the switch is anywhere other than RUN mode, the machine can't operate to keep people like me from being a doofus around it.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 15:55 |
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axolotl farmer posted:This has been posted before, but worth seeing for those who skipped a bunch of pages. idgi. Did they purposely overinflate that tire to burst just to show off the cage?
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 15:57 |
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Zipperelli. posted:idgi. Did they purposely overinflate that tire to burst just to show off the cage? Yes.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 15:59 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Differing points of view The company is doing the responsible thing (for now) reporting the truth, warning of more to come and telling people to get out?! The local government is playing trying it down as nothing while looking like complete idiots? Never thought I would see that combination.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 16:02 |
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oohhboy posted:The company is doing the responsible thing (for now) reporting the truth, warning of more to come and telling people to get out?! The local government is playing trying it down as nothing while looking like complete idiots? Never thought I would see that combination. It occurs to me that the sheriff is trying to prevent mass flight in an area it's currently impossible to evacuate due to flood. He still needs more practice in lying.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 16:06 |
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Zipperelli. posted:idgi. Did they purposely overinflate that tire to burst just to show off the cage? Yeah, it's a video from the cage manufacturer basically going "look how good our cages are! buy them plz". Lmao @ any shop using them, when I worked in a tire shop we'd have to do some sketchy poo poo sometimes. I lost track of the amount of heavy duty trucks I worked on where the operating pressure was like 80 psi, but the dumbass owner ran them at 150, which is the max rated pressure molded on the tire sidewall. And that's cold pressure, so on the road they heat up and pressurize well above that. It was always a joy gingerly reaching over the tire to undo the valve stem; I had a few valve cores turn into high-speed missiles when they unthreaded and flew out.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 16:16 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:It occurs to me that the sheriff is trying to prevent mass flight in an area it's currently impossible to evacuate due to flood. He still needs more practice in lying. But he didn't need to lie nor did anybody else from the local government. Next time they say something less people are going to believe them because they were such transparent idiots. If I was putting out a statement: "While the situation at the plant is critical the local authorities and the company are doing all they can to contain the situation. Shelter in place and should you be in the danger zone we will do our best to evacuate those inside." Still they were better than Trump saying "Good luck".
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 16:33 |
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axolotl farmer posted:This has been posted before, but worth seeing for those who skipped a bunch of pages. It's very considerate to put ready-made shrapnel around the cage in case it failed.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 16:42 |
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Taerkar posted:It's very considerate to put ready-made shrapnel around the cage in case it failed. And the gas. Are they inflating it with CO2? That's what it looks like to me. We used N2 instead of air at the truck place I worked at before. I've never heard of CO2 being used.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 17:05 |
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Are Houston's zoning laws any more rigorous than the rest of Texas?
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 17:26 |
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Volcott posted:Are Houston's zoning laws any more rigorous than the rest of Texas?
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 17:31 |
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It's not an explosion god https://twitter.com/KagroX/status/903276082413043712
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 17:36 |
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all we know is the officer was on the scene, a gun was drawn and during the proceedings five children became deceased
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 17:40 |
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a kitten posted:It's not an explosion god That it's not flattening buildings in an explosion and just conflagrating is a small triumph with low enough expectations.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 17:49 |
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Yeah, but I'm betting that the people who actually run the plant have a better understanding of whether it was an explosion than the local sheriff does. Unless he's a retired chem eng or something.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 17:52 |
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I'm sorry, did we say explosion? We meant violent explosive decompression resulting in fire. I hope this clear up the misunderstanding, all is well.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 18:35 |
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Significant Ant posted:Ladder logic is pretty rigorous, redundant, and easy to read if you adhere to proper coding "I think we can replace all these janky old PLCs with something close to the metal. Have you ever heard of node.js?"
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Yeah, but I'm betting that the people who actually run the plant have a better understanding of whether it was an explosion than the local sheriff does. Unless he's a retired chem eng or something. My rule of thumb is an explosion ends with something knocked over. The behavior so far is interesting and dangerous for the conflagration and uncontrolled release of random reactive chemicals not because it's been knocking things over.
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Explosions imply bombs. There were no bombs here. It was just a sudden release of a pressure wave and planned demolition of outdated facilities. Release of toxins was acceptable by newly enacted EPA regulations, just yesterday, as a matter of fact by Executive Order.
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