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Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Leal posted:

The new youtube design looks like the old design except they erased the borders (edit: no wait, they're still there they just made them ever so slightly gray instead of plain white) and all the words, buttons, picture etc. like twice as large.

It feels like old person mode.

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nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Yardbomb posted:

It feels like old person mode.

The youngest millennials are rapidly approaching the 25 year-old barrier. They are catching The Olds at a higher rate than ever lately.

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe

Yardbomb posted:

It feels like old person mode.

I zoom in the text on every site I go to nowadays. Looking at a computer all day, it's way easier on the eyes.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
This new shade of red needs to be incorporated into the forums redesign somehow. Maybe the default text color?

POOL IS CLOSED
Jul 14, 2011

I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.
Pillbug

Discendo Vox posted:

This new shade of red needs to be incorporated into the forums redesign somehow. Maybe the default text color?

The IRB won't like that.

The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



New youtube constantly looks like something went wrong and the page didn't entirely load and i hate it.

Golden Goat
Aug 2, 2012

You could always move your LPs to the brand new PewTube.

Which i'm sure is a fine place.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


Golden Goat posted:

You could always move your LPs to the brand new PewTube.

Which i'm sure is a fine place.

*googles*

quote:

Pew Tube - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcqK64Pctna0WwXazWbVY3Q
Mehl-Musik-Challenge FAIL | #02 - Duration: 6 minutes, 20 seconds. 260 views; 3 years ago. 4:38. Play next; Play now. 7 Arten von Girlfriends + Outtakes ...

PEWTUBE - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb9sRSeVtPsPdFQ-GJqp26g
Всем привет. меня зовут Александр снимаю летсплеи и прочее.

PewTube: Home
https://pew.tube/
A free speech YouTube alternative for video, audio and images, which won't censor you for wrongthink.

Oh, so it's for porn and nazis?

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

They also seem to be under the impression that Google, one of the largest corporations in the world, is a communist organization.

OutofSight
May 4, 2017
Well...
Now youtube has round buttons as a logical evolution of quares with rounded corners (Adobe-Google-Apple design dogma trinity).
The responsive design seems to work and look a bit smoother with the displayed content* on mobile devices (*read=featured videos and advertisements).
Abstract menu buttons, which don't show, what they do. Unless you click on it (also nothing new in the Adobe-Google-Apple design dogma trinity).

The #255 red is an eyesore and wants me to recalibrate my monitors again...

Google has created nice UIs, but the youtube redesign maybe be not one of them.

OutofSight fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Aug 31, 2017

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe

Waffleman_ posted:

They also seem to be under the impression that Google, one of the largest corporations in the world, is a communist organization.

And they run on bitcoin donations which so means no connections to the Russian mafia, no sir.

Golden Goat
Aug 2, 2012

Ramos posted:

Oh, so it's for porn and nazis?

And now you too can join the naziporn video service thats sweeping a nation!

Doseku
Nov 9, 2009
For a moment I thought Pewtube was a youtube like created by Pewdiepie and I went in just to see what that would look like.
Boy was that a wrong move. the channels are either about Nazis, communism, white power, and the occasional porn. In essence it consists of the very things that that it's supposedly created to fight against.
Oh and it's not created by PewDiePie.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


Doseku posted:

For a moment I thought Pewtube was a youtube like created by Pewdiepie and I went in just to see what that would look like.
Boy was that a wrong move. the channels are either about Nazis, communism, white power, and the occasional porn. In essence it consists of the very things that that it's supposedly created to fight against.
Oh and it's not created by PewDiePie.

Nah, those are typically going to be exactly the kind of people that will tell you they're fighting against the powers that be. Racism and such will take whatever face it needs to pretend to be righteous and what not.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Also Youtube doesn't trust you to be able to read a number longer than 3 digits anymore so everything is rounded with a big fat K on the end except for the view count, which is just another example of how they're trying to make it brain-dead simple to use Youtube but in the wrong ways.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Youtube was never 'hard' to use anyways
Ever
Not even in its first UI incarnation.

It stinks of UX dillweeds trying very hard to justify both their existence and overly fat paycheck.

judge reinhold
Jul 26, 2001
The layout is bad but it's bad everytime and eventually I forget how bad it is and then I look at a screenshot of the past and I think it looked worse. Also, they have to do stuff like this because it makes things seem less stagnant, and is easier than fixing their "ad problem".

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




The only plus I can find to this UI change is that now I can change video speed on mobile too.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" - former Youtube design department head, recently fired via being defenestrated through 23rd story window by beefy thug a la streets of rage

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
Went to check my email and saw a "top 5 things the new youtube layout perfects" in the news feed. Hope ya'll like it cause google is apparently shilling out for articles to get everyone to like it.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
man, i never thought i'd see the day where there would be a 48 hour bitchfest about borders and colors by a collection of people who are not professional designers working for large sums of money.

you'd think google killed ya'll's pets in here.

e: this should not be construed as a defense of the UI change, i have no strong opinions on it one way or the other. but holy god dudes is this really how you want to spend your time and energy?

Coolguye fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Aug 31, 2017

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

Someone once tossed a Google Chrome stressball at one of my cats and it hit him in the face if that counts.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
"48 hour bitchfest" seems like a strong term to use for a half page of people saying "this layout sucks" amidst making fun of an alt-right video hoster

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Coolguye posted:

man, i never thought i'd see the day where there would be a 48 hour bitchfest about borders and colors by a collection of people who are not professional designers working for large sums of money.

you'd think google killed ya'll's pets in here.

e: this should not be construed as a defense of the UI change, i have no strong opinions on it one way or the other. but holy god dudes is this really how you want to spend your time and energy?

I've seen you post about Star Citizen.


Checkmate, Gune :smuggo:

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Coolguye posted:

man, i never thought i'd see the day where there would be a 48 hour bitchfest about borders and colors by a collection of people who are not professional designers working for large sums of money.

you'd think google killed ya'll's pets in here.

e: this should not be construed as a defense of the UI change, i have no strong opinions on it one way or the other. but holy god dudes is this really how you want to spend your time and energy?

Imagine having your head this far up your own rear end lol

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER
I have to admit, I don't really see the problem with Youtube's new layout other than a momentary bout of getting used to the new look. That said, I'm pretty much just some schlub that watches videos now and then, so if it's somehow made it harder for people to make a living from Youtube, then it was a genuinely lovely thing to happen. That said, from what I hear YT's not much of a good monetizing option anyway, and Patreon's a much better bet if one wants to earn a living making videos for the Internet.

Again though, I'm really no expert.

Nidoking
Jan 27, 2009

I fought the lava, and the lava won.
My biggest complaints are that they've reduced the number of videos in the "Recently Uploaded" section from 15 to 10 (in both layouts) and that you have to specifically switch to Edit Mode to remove videos from your Watch Later list after you've watched them - which just switches you right back to the old layout anyway. It also seemed like when I hit the fullscreen button as a video started, it would take a few seconds to finish loading the page and then reload in the regular view, so I'd have to hit fullscreen again. I concede that I'm not a graphic designer, but if anyone who is can tell me why adding more clicks to access the features users use is good UI design, I will personally petition to have your license revoked.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

CJacobs posted:

Imagine having your head this far up your own rear end lol

what precisely is your beef with me guy

this is like the second or third time you've acted like this in this thread and the third or fourth thread where i have utterly failed to talk to you directly but it somehow becomes personal

CommissarMega posted:

I have to admit, I don't really see the problem with Youtube's new layout other than a momentary bout of getting used to the new look. That said, I'm pretty much just some schlub that watches videos now and then, so if it's somehow made it harder for people to make a living from Youtube, then it was a genuinely lovely thing to happen. That said, from what I hear YT's not much of a good monetizing option anyway, and Patreon's a much better bet if one wants to earn a living making videos for the Internet.

Again though, I'm really no expert.

the design change hasn't done anything with the monetization stuff directly; if for whatever reason it makes people less willing to watch videos on youtube by some metric (fewer minutes watched, fewer videos watched, w/e) it could turn into that. but that sort of data is mostly collected by analytics embedded into the site. a lot of times, design changes are spurred by the fact that those analytics show that your metrics are ebbing off simply by you doing nothing. this is a quantifiable thing that happens though i'll be the first to say i'm not entirely sure why it happens. perhaps users simply feel like you're not going anywhere unless your look changes every now and again? it's difficult to say.

the monetization problem comes from youtube's weird algorithm quirks and google's unwillingness to share any details with regard to those quirks. what worked yesterday might not work tomorrow so due to business logic changes you could end up earning 10% as much with no warning through no fault of your own. but the reality of the situation is that random ads on stuff isn't a good way of getting money out of your work and hasn't been for years. patreon is much closer to the model people have moved to, which is just doing good work and reaching out to people until you have a committed following, at which point your committed following is generally quite happy to pitch in together to see more good work done.

Coolguye fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Aug 31, 2017

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
I mean, it makes everything blend together since it pretty much gives everything that's not a thumbnail the same visual weight. Kinda sucks if you follow a handful of channels like I do but don't watch every video every day. They also got rid of the blatant visual sign for YOU WATCHED THIS ALREADY.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Nidoking posted:

My biggest complaints are that they've reduced the number of videos in the "Recently Uploaded" section from 15 to 10 (in both layouts) and that you have to specifically switch to Edit Mode to remove videos from your Watch Later list after you've watched them - which just switches you right back to the old layout anyway. It also seemed like when I hit the fullscreen button as a video started, it would take a few seconds to finish loading the page and then reload in the regular view, so I'd have to hit fullscreen again. I concede that I'm not a graphic designer, but if anyone who is can tell me why adding more clicks to access the features users use is good UI design, I will personally petition to have your license revoked.

Yeah, I don't even know where edit mode is- or that it was a thing before- so I've gotta open a video before I can remove other stuff.

Trojan Kaiju
Feb 13, 2012


My main issue with the new layout is that there isn't much reason to make the ends clickable on the video player. But before that I had a problem with the ends blending with the black boxes on either side of a normally 4:3 video, so now my problem switched from "it's not pausing when I want it to" to "it's pausing more than I want it to." Maybe I'm just a big baby.

Blue Labrador
Feb 17, 2011

I don't know if this was a part of YouTube's last design, but as someone who always used Stylish to make a lot of mainly white sites black or dark, I appreciate that YT now has a native Dark Mode

TheDarkFlame
May 4, 2013

You tell me I didn't build that?

I'll have you know I worked my fingers to the bone to get where I am today.

CJacobs posted:





Also they finally made the red accent color be as bright and red as they possibly could and nobody on their entire design team said "hey maybe that's a bad idea"

I knew something very particular about the design was grating on me, I didn't realise it was this. But making thumbnails take up more space, making the top section of the page even more bulky and intrusive when all I want is a list of videos, making the whole thing look clunkier, none of that feels particularly good to me anyway. I'm glad like the second post about it here was how to change it back.

Cheez
Apr 29, 2013

Someone doesn't like a shitty gimmick I like?

:siren:
TIME FOR ME TO WHINE ABOUT IT!
:siren:

Coolguye posted:

man, i never thought i'd see the day where there would be a 48 hour bitchfest about borders and colors by a collection of people who are not professional designers working for large sums of money.
How could people on the youtube team who get paid to make changes just make changes for the sake of change, as long as they can sell the idea to the idiot higher-ups? I just don't get it!

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
what

Cheez
Apr 29, 2013

Someone doesn't like a shitty gimmick I like?

:siren:
TIME FOR ME TO WHINE ABOUT IT!
:siren:
Only the radical notion that maybe people who are paid to do things aren't always 100% correct all the time and know what people want, since there's no financial incentive to leave things the way they are when everyone is happy with them

Putty
Mar 21, 2013

HOOKED ON THE BROTHERS
The new layout disabled my Video Blocker so I saw minecrafts.

This is not acceptable.

Putty
Mar 21, 2013

HOOKED ON THE BROTHERS


this is me

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Cheez posted:

Only the radical notion that maybe people who are paid to do things aren't always 100% correct all the time and know what people want, since there's no financial incentive to leave things the way they are when everyone is happy with them

you really took this to a lot of places it was never intended to go, holmes

perhaps chillax

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Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

Putty posted:

The new layout disabled my Video Blocker so I saw minecrafts.

This is not acceptable.

I'm so sorry.

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