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News media has always been uniformly awful, you say?
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Sep 3, 2017 00:19
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the oppressive, failing new york times
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Sep 3, 2017 00:19
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"Let's all listen to what noted war criminal Henry Kissinger has to say! Maybe he'll give free candies that are not poisoned this time!"
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Sep 3, 2017 00:24
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what happened to nuzzi i thought she was hypernormalizd p early on
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Sep 3, 2017 00:53
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Andrei Dorkovsky posted:what happened to nuzzi i thought she was hypernormalizd p early on she's still death crew af but she's a journalist with journalist opinions anyway the nyt made a good op ed for once https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/opinion/civil-rights-protest-resistance.html?smid=tw-nytopinion&smtyp=cur&_r=0 
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Sep 3, 2017 06:07
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good take but a little rich coming from slate
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Sep 3, 2017 06:53
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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/09/02/new-york-times-opinions-safe-space-shafer-215569 In which Jack Shafer makes the argument that the NY Times runs op-eds from disgraced neoconservatives, cryptofascists, and bloody-handed merchants of death because ultimately it increases readership and audience engagement, which to me is a pretty convincing argument. quote:As the Times op-ed page took shape, its editors assembled a list of prospective authors and subjects they could address. One list, preserved in the Harrison Salisbury Papers at Columbia University, proposes soliciting pieces from Communist Party USA head Gus Hall, John Bircher Society leader Robert Welch, oil man and right-winger H.L. Hunt, labor radical Harry Bridges and revolutionary Angela Davis. The page’s concept was to express ideas and opinions the reader couldn’t find on the editorial page or elsewhere in the newspaper. The range and ambition of the page were such that one of the early editors on the page, John Van Doorn, tried (and failed) to hire Tupac Shakur’s mother, Afeni Shakur, as an editor in 1971, as Socolow writes elsewhere.
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Sep 3, 2017 08:29
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dont even fink about it posted:http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/09/02/new-york-times-opinions-safe-space-shafer-215569 I'm noticing one big difference between the editorial selection of the Times circa 1971 and NYT today.
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Sep 3, 2017 09:06
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nowadays it would take a massive journalistic investigation just to get the contact information for all the CPUSA splinter parties
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Sep 3, 2017 09:47
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Fallen Hamprince posted:anyway the nyt made a good op ed for once These good opinions are so foreign to the organization that they had to bring in 4 ringers to scrape together 4 and a half paragraphs.
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Sep 3, 2017 13:27
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🎶the failing...🎶 🎶Failing...🎶 🎶FAILING...🎶 🎶🎶NEW YORK TIMES!!🎶🎶
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Sep 3, 2017 13:48
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFELNIpeTjY
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Sep 3, 2017 14:27
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Over Easy posted:These good opinions are so foreign to the organization that they had to bring in 4 ringers to scrape together 4 and a half paragraphs. I imagine the editors had to be physically restrained from deleting the whole thing
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Sep 3, 2017 18:03
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https://twitter.com/SeanMcElwee/status/905091969801752576
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Sep 5, 2017 18:52
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Correction: we hurt our stockholders feelings
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Sep 5, 2017 19:31
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big time fail by the New York Times.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:57
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a bigly fail
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Sep 6, 2017 03:41
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etalian posted:It's a mystery how bombing a country's infrastructure and supporting a starvation blockade somehow led to loss of life... we are all from Al Ghaydah
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Sep 8, 2017 04:41
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the new york times, which is failing
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Sep 8, 2017 14:02
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this one is long and dumb so I'm gonna just quote some parts of it I present to you How Ta-Nehisi Coates Gives Whiteness Power https://nytimes.com/2017/10/06/opinion/ta-nehisi-coates-whiteness-power.html quote:In the study of German history, there is the notion of sonderweg, literally the “special path,” down which the German people are fated to wander. In different eras, and depending on who employed it, the term could imply different things. It began as a positive myth during the imperial period that some German scholars told themselves about their political system and culture. During and after World War II it turned distinctly negative, a way for outsiders to make sense of the singularity of Germany’s crimes. quote:For having the temerity to defend himself, Mr. Packer was accused on social media of “excusing racism” and “whitesplaining.” Such logic extends a disturbing trend in left-of-center public thinking: identity epistemology, or knowing-through-being, somewhere along the line became identity ethics, or morality-through-being. Accordingly, whiteness and wrongness have become interchangeable — the high ground is now accessible only by way of “allyship,” which is to say silence and total repentance. The upside to this new white burden, of course, is that whichever way they may choose, those deemed white remain this nation’s primary actors. quote:I have spent the past six months poring over the literature of European and American white nationalism, in the process interviewing noxious identitarians like the alt-right founder Richard Spencer. The most shocking aspect of Mr. Coates’s wording here is the extent to which it mirrors ideas of race — specifically the specialness of whiteness — that white supremacist thinkers cherish.
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Oct 6, 2017 22:00
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Thomas Chatterton Williams... ....actually owns
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Oct 6, 2017 22:06
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it read to me like "white supremacy doesn't matter unless you think it matters, which gives it power, black people are actually doing just fine as long as they don't worry about racism", which seemed to me to be a profoundly dumb take maybe I'm a huge dumbass or something, idk
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Oct 6, 2017 22:26
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Main Paineframe posted:it read to me like "white supremacy doesn't matter unless you think it matters, which gives it power, black people are actually doing just fine as long as they don't worry about racism", which seemed to me to be a profoundly dumb take It's easy to not worry about white supremacy unless you're directly affected when you're a member of the black professional or bourgeois class.
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Oct 6, 2017 22:32
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it's also easy to not worry about white supremacy when you've got class solidarity.
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Oct 6, 2017 22:38
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i agree with ta nehisi coats that black people will alwas be a lower social class
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Oct 7, 2017 00:02
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in my head i always read his name as Tennessee Coats
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Oct 7, 2017 03:11
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tbf Coates has publicly stated that he cannot envision a racially integrated world and that black Americans best hope, as individuals, is to move elsewhere (as he did for a time)
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Oct 7, 2017 04:53
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Reprisal posted:tbf Coates has publicly stated that he cannot envision a racially integrated world and that black Americans best hope, as individuals, is to move elsewhere (as he did for a time) So he's literally a black nationalist?
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Oct 7, 2017 06:05
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Jeb! Repetition posted:So he's literally a black nationalist? a black navalgazist
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Oct 7, 2017 07:03
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Jeb! Repetition posted:So he's literally a black nationalist?
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Oct 7, 2017 07:59
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Fallen Hamprince posted:she's still death crew af but she's a journalist with journalist opinions reminder that olivia nuzzi wrote this wretched piece of poo poo article http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/mike-cernovich-pivots-from-pizzagate-to-not-so-fake-news.html im pretty sure her irony poisoning act is just that, an act. shes bottom feeding scum who will try to ingratiate herself to anyone, be it twitter leftists or nazi shitheads like milo, cernovich, and coulter
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Oct 7, 2017 14:26
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Main Paineframe posted:it read to me like "white supremacy doesn't matter unless you think it matters, which gives it power, black people are actually doing just fine as long as they don't worry about racism", which seemed to me to be a profoundly dumb take you misunderstand his argument. hes not saying that racism doesnt exist, hes saying that the way liberals conceive of racism is harmful. that they turn whiteness into some kind of supernatural force that trasnceds human will to make white people uniquely evil and lovely people and that the only thing they can do is shut up and listen. and its true, the way racists and wokes talk about race is remarkably similar, that black people and white people are fundamentally different and they should avoid mixing. the only difference is their prescription. there was a good chapo episode on this not too long ago
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Oct 7, 2017 14:35
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Olivia Nazzi folks
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Oct 7, 2017 16:24
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from 'journalists r the real nazis' to 'blacks r the real racists'. the CSPAM hits are coming back 2 back itt
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Oct 7, 2017 16:31
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My take: Ta Nehisi Coates is good and Thomas Chatterton Williams has written viable, lucid critiques of his work in both the LRB and NYT
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Oct 7, 2017 16:34
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Fallen Hamprince posted:from 'journalists r the real nazis' to 'blacks r the real racists'. the CSPAM hits are coming back 2 back itt the people doing that poo poo are overwhelmingly white
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Oct 7, 2017 17:21
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babypolis posted:the people doing that poo poo are overwhelmingly white the article is literally titled "How Ta-Nehisi Coates Gives Whiteness Power"
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Oct 7, 2017 17:27
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Child Shocked to Learn That Headlines Not Written by Authors, Are Sometimes Misleading or Incomplete
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babypolis posted:whiteness into some kind of supernatural force that trasnceds human will to make white people uniquely evil and lovely people but that's true 
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