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Stiev Awt
Mar 20, 2007


xzzy posted:

Can we replace him with Goofus?

I'm sure Therrien would be up for it.

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Lobsterboy
Aug 18, 2003

start smoking (what's up, gold?)

CBJSprague24 posted:

It's going to be like Twitter where I initially resist thinking it's a stupid, unnecessary alternative to what we already have only to break down and eventually drop $60 or whatever it is for a subscription even though I could theoretically glean what's going on based on reading Porty's Tweets.

Wait for a sale, when they get a new city or writer they usually cut prices, I got in with a 20 or 30% off when they hired Custance. You get access to ANYTHING on the Athletic for one cost. And their app is very nice.

I swear I dont work for them, I just hope they do really well and continue doing amazing things.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

A Typical Goon posted:

I made a bunch of horrible posts and then got mad when people called me horrible :qqsay:

Just gonna bookmark this one for later..

CBJSprague24 posted:

It's going to be like Twitter where I initially resist thinking it's a stupid, unnecessary alternative to what we already have only to break down and eventually drop $60 or whatever it is for a subscription even though I could theoretically glean what's going on based on reading Porty's Tweets.

And like Twitter it will be dead in 2 years.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel
NEW RED WINGS ARENA UPDATE

http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/columnists/stephen-henderson/2017/09/02/kid-rock-caesars-ilitch-arena/623154001/

Supposedly the Nazis and Antifa are coming out for this too

i am the bird
Mar 2, 2005

I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS

AsInHowe posted:

NEW RED WINGS ARENA UPDATE

http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/columnists/stephen-henderson/2017/09/02/kid-rock-caesars-ilitch-arena/623154001/

Supposedly the Nazis and Antifa are coming out for this too

This city's idiot class is desperate for this doofus's money. He bought himself a museum exhibit, a shed at Eastern Market, the opening concert here, and a loving restaurant in the arena.

And there is no "antifa" in Detroit so much as there are a bunch of socialist groups, anarchists, commies, anti-racist groups like BLM or BYP100, etc. . But yes, they seem to all be going. Not just for Kid Rock but to also protest the arena as a symbol of Two Detroits and the enormous amount of money this city has given to the Illitch family for little return investment to the average Detroiter.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

i am the bird posted:

This city's idiot class is desperate for this doofus's money. He bought himself a museum exhibit, a shed at Eastern Market, the opening concert here, and a loving restaurant in the arena.

It's also really obvious that Kid Rock is trying to buy a reputation separate from his actual one.

Thufir
May 19, 2004

"The fucking Mayans were right."

CommaToes posted:

Carlyle is still on contract with the Ducks.

Sutter is available

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN

i am the bird posted:

And there is no "antifa" in Detroit so much as there are a bunch of socialist groups, anarchists, commies, anti-racist groups like BLM or BYP100, etc.

This is pretty much the definition of Antifa, fyi. In hockey news....I hope the Penguins sign some centers. Because wow is their center depth bad now.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Croaby
Malkin
Guentzel


Poor pens, who will they ever get to play down the middle?

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together
1. Guentzel should play wing with Crosby
2. They can get a third line center by the trade deadline, who cares

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

JoelJoel posted:

Croaby
Malkin
Guentzel


Poor pens, who will they ever get to play down the middle?

Guentzel might end up as a center in the NHL, but I kind of doubt it. He's an offense oriented guy on a team with two top 10 centers.

Anyway Rowney looked serviceable in the playoffs, he might be ok in that spot.

Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007



Dom at The Athletic is doing team previews based on Game Score, he did Detroit today and this is probably the most relevant image for Wings fans:

corn on the cop
Oct 12, 2012

Break what must be broken, once for all, that's all, and take the suffering on oneself.

― Corey Dostoyevsky

Koopa Kid posted:

Dom at The Athletic is doing team previews based on Game Score, he did Detroit today and this is probably the most relevant image for Wings fans:



this is incredible

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Koopa Kid posted:

Dom at The Athletic is doing team previews based on Game Score, he did Detroit today and this is probably the most relevant image for Wings fans:



:laffo:

corn on the cop
Oct 12, 2012

Break what must be broken, once for all, that's all, and take the suffering on oneself.

― Corey Dostoyevsky
Ken Holland not only broke the bad contract curve, he shattered it by being nine million above the second-worst team.

i am the bird
Mar 2, 2005

I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS

rex rabidorum vires posted:

This is pretty much the definition of Antifa, fyi. In hockey news....I hope the Penguins sign some centers. Because wow is their center depth bad now.

Right but we don't even have the people who are explicitly branding themselves as antifa with the punk rock flag, etc., unless a rando wobbly or anarchist bust one out for shits and giggles. I just find it particularly hilarious when Detroit media loses its poo poo over 'the organization known as antifa.'


Koopa Kid posted:

Dom at The Athletic is doing team previews based on Game Score, he did Detroit today and this is probably the most relevant image for Wings fans:



I want to frame this and send it to Ken Holland.

.Spec
Oct 4, 2001

Koopa Kid posted:

Dom at The Athletic is doing team previews based on Game Score, he did Detroit today and this is probably the most relevant image for Wings fans:



This image may very well be what finally gets me to to subscribe to The Atlantic.

Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.

Koopa Kid posted:

Dom at The Athletic is doing team previews based on Game Score, he did Detroit today and this is probably the most relevant image for Wings fans:



I am trying to figure out who the 6 are.

Has Kronwall deteriorated that badly?

Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007



Twin Cinema posted:

I am trying to figure out who the 6 are.

Has Kronwall deteriorated that badly?

He's on there, yeah, and the list is pretty easily guessable after that. One thing Dom notes is that Game Score can be hard on guys that don't shoot the puck ever, but also just about everybody on that team is playing over their heads possession-wise so there's really nothing to recommend the defensive types.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Twin Cinema posted:

I am trying to figure out who the 6 are.

Has Kronwall deteriorated that badly?

yes. this is all per GameScore

Danny DeKeyser: $5 million, 5 years left
Niklas Kronwall: $4.75 million, 2 years left
Justin Abdelkader: $4.25 million, 6 years left
Jonathan Ericsson: $4.25 million, 3 years left
Riley Sheahan: $2.075 million, 1 year left
Luke Glendening: $1.8 million, 4 years left

he says it's 0.6 wins below replacement, costing them $22mil

Stiev Awt
Mar 20, 2007


BAD

EXPENSIVE

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

duclair signs for 1 year. no dollars yet

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

Stiev Awt posted:

BAD

EXPENSIVE

AKA Karl Alzner

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

yellowcar posted:

AKA Karl Alzner

AKA Kris Russell

i am the bird
Mar 2, 2005

I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS

DJExile posted:

yes. this is all per GameScore

Danny DeKeyser: $5 million, 5 years left
Niklas Kronwall: $4.75 million, 2 years left
Justin Abdelkader: $4.25 million, 6 years left
Jonathan Ericsson: $4.25 million, 3 years left
Riley Sheahan: $2.075 million, 1 year left
Luke Glendening: $1.8 million, 4 years left

he says it's 0.6 wins below replacement, costing them $22mil

It only gets worse when you start interrogating further, too. The terms. The fact that 4th liners are getting paid enormously and AA ain't getting poo poo. The fact that Dekeyser/Kronwall/Ericsson are all top 4 defensemen for Detroit.

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME
Not too many centers out there for the Pens to sign, it's the same for the Rangers (though Pens centers are worlds better than the Rangers)

Duchene is still out there I guess but the Avs seem to want a fair bit for him. Could see them asking for a guy like Guentzel in return

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...

hifi posted:

duclair signs for 1 year. no dollars yet

Probably signed for his QO, considering this past season.

Levitate posted:

Not too many centers out there for the Pens to sign, it's the same for the Rangers (though Pens centers are worlds better than the Rangers)

Duchene is still out there I guess but the Avs seem to want a fair bit for him. Could see them asking for a guy like Guentzel in return

Pens and Rangers seem to have a similar outlook to letting someone step up to the role rather than plugging it.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

I don't see who can do the stepping up unless one of the kids (Simon/Aston-Reese) is ready for the big-time, and I don't think either of them is.
I could also see trying Rust at center because his game is pretty suited for it. Unfortunately, neither he nor any of our other wingers have ever played center professionally.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
In news that nobody could give a poo poo about Jack Skille is loving off to the KHL.

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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i am the bird posted:

Right but we don't even have the people who are explicitly branding themselves as antifa with the punk rock flag, etc., unless a rando wobbly or anarchist bust one out for shits and giggles. I just find it particularly hilarious when Detroit media loses its poo poo over 'the organization known as antifa.'


I want to frame this and send it to Ken Holland.

I mean an unorganized decentralized mishmash of peoples that basically only exist together because 'gently caress fascism' is kinda how it works. The media getting twisted up over it is funny/vaguely terrifying. Agreed on the framing and sending to Ken Holland. That plot/graph is magical.

Jordan7hm posted:

Guentzel might end up as a center in the NHL, but I kind of doubt it. He's an offense oriented guy on a team with two top 10 centers.

Anyway Rowney looked serviceable in the playoffs, he might be ok in that spot.

I think you keep Jake on the wing. It's probably too much offense to give up (potentially who knows if he's legit or hit an insane hot streak). Rowney looked good in the bits that he played, but if you could keep him as the 4c and PK guy I think he'll be safer/better. Granted Bonino didn't exactly light the world on fire with points either so it might be fine.

Levitate posted:

Duchene is still out there I guess but the Avs seem to want a fair bit for him. Could see them asking for a guy like Guentzel in return

Getting Duchene without selling out the farm would be the crux of the issue. That lead me to looking around the league and someone like Jordan Staal, but I don't know if you want to take on his contract either. Plekanec might be an interesting one if you can get Mtl to deal. In searching a rental like Bryan Little might be the best route if something like that is even possible.

Wippersnapper
Nov 1, 2003

Stealing your favourite hockey teams
...in spirit.

grack posted:

In news that nobody could give a poo poo about Jack Skille is loving off to the KHL.

How did Jack Skille play 55 games for Vancouver last year and I can't even remember he was on the team at first or what he contributed or anything really :iiam:

I mean Megna and Chaput were at least annoying and drew hatred. Skille just... was...

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Wippersnapper posted:

How did Jack Skille play 55 games for Vancouver last year and I can't even remember he was on the team at first or what he contributed or anything really :iiam:

I mean Megna and Chaput were at least annoying and drew hatred. Skille just... was...

Skille was a replacement-level fourth line forward last year and thus a few steps better than any number of slugs the Canucks put on the ice during the season.

Gio
Jun 20, 2005


Koopa Kid posted:

Dom at The Athletic is doing team previews based on Game Score, he did Detroit today and this is probably the most relevant image for Wings fans:



BAD EXPENSIVE sums up the upcoming season perfectly

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Koopa Kid posted:

Dom at The Athletic is doing team previews based on Game Score, he did Detroit today and this is probably the most relevant image for Wings fans:



I need a safety check on Teemu, stat.

E: LOL AVATAR

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

so what's with the av?

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


yellowcar posted:

so what's with the av?

F1 thread. Av war started, and it was only a matter of time before I got one.

Neodoomium
Jun 20, 2001

You are now hearing this
noise in your head.



DJExile posted:

yes. this is all per GameScore

Danny DeKeyser: $5 million, 5 years left
Niklas Kronwall: $4.75 million, 2 years left
Justin Abdelkader: $4.25 million, 6 years left
Jonathan Ericsson: $4.25 million, 3 years left
Riley Sheahan: $2.075 million, 1 year left
Luke Glendening: $1.8 million, 4 years left

he says it's 0.6 wins below replacement, costing them $22mil

and four of those six guys have NTCs.

Fire Ken Holland

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Neodoomium posted:

and four of those six guys have NTCs.

Fire Ken Holland

Not just any NTC, full-NTC.

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together
I understand why many rooted for the Sharks and Predators but you have to admit it's Cool and Good that MAF and the Penguins killed the Red Wings for the foreseeable future in 2009

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Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause
It's actually not and Evgeni Malkin desperately needs his rear end kicked

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