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Blockhouse posted:it no joke must be incredible to be a creative person who lacks the ability to give a poo poo what people think of your work I imagine it's rather freeing to not have to worry about whether or not your work is good enough for people to understand or appreciate. It explains the immense amount of paintings Lynch has done over the years, not to mention everything else he's created..
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el oso posted:What Fireman tells Coop: Do we actually know for sure what any of these mean besides the 430?
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Well that was a wild ride. Overall, I think I'm pretty content. I just see ep 17 as the true ending for the series and ep 18 as wacky Lynch stuff which I enjoyed for it being wacky lynch stuff. The theory that the ending sequence is just a nightmare Laura had on the night that she would've otherwise died on in the original timeline seems pretty spot on to me. It kind of makes sense logically (Sarah's voice clip is from the pilot) and it doesn't really diminish the rest of the show.
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Reminder that one of Lynch's paintings involved attaching dead birds onto a canvas with paint. He's kind of weird.
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I sort of didn't expect Twin Peaks to turn out to be a bone-chilling cautionary tale but it makes sense in retrospect.
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Jimbot posted:It's a lovely place but that doesn't mean good people like Cooper can't try. He has succeeded more often than not in events he was an active participant. And while he gets in over his head, especially in this season, its with the help of others that things turn out OK. People have also said that about the finale of season two. I think episode 18 specifically is more like Takashi Miike's Izo in that Cooper is simply willpower personified. They drop him off at some point, and he tries and fails. Then the whole thing begins again. Neither he nor the loop breaks, but it goes on indefinitely, so you can't really be sure. It's neither optimistic nor pessimistic. Low Desert Punk posted:I think we just have a disagreement on what "wrapping things up" means. For me, it means that the basic narrative arc was completed. Cooper's naivete and good heart leading him even further away from where he started, and that the lodge spirits will continue to cause pain as long as we produce garmonbozia for them. Sure.  This wasn't really about my enjoyment to begin with, so I don't know why that's part of your argument. I just wanted to point out that Lynch can totally "wrap things up" as proven by like half his filmography. Not every Lynch project ends like Twin Peaks did.pope archibald posted:i think the "drunk" was another doppelganger, all he did was repeat what everyone else said, and he was strangely deteriorating. That or he was just a crazy drug addict hooked on the twin peak's bath salts. That's not really what I mean. Does he serve any purpose other than to annoy Chad? And More fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Sep 4, 2017 |
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Thinking about it now I don't feel like it's that pessimistic or horrible of an ending, aside from where the characters end up. The lesson to the audience is, if anything, about how much easier it is to be happy. It's way easier to be Dougie than it is to be Cooper; in fact you have to actively and strenuously resist being Dougie to be Cooper.
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Sep 4, 2017 06:25
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I haven't felt this way at the end of a piece of media since I saw Tati's Trafic.
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Holy moly - this actually makes SO much sense https://www.reddit.com/r/twinpeaks/comments/6xxxfd/s3e18_4chan_cracked_the_ending_already/
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:I know that Alice Tremond is not played by the singer from Chromatics, but they literally have identical haircuts and eye colors and they're wearing the exact same blouse. Lynch reused Chromatics a couple times in the Roadhouse, so I don't think it's that weird to assume that he made Alice Tremond look like the singer from Chromatics just like how he cast his musician buddy Chrysta Bell as Tammy. I feel like she was played by the woman who owns that house in real life (I saw her in an article posted here before, but I could be remembering completely wrong).
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pissdude posted:Holy moly - this actually makes SO much sense this is dumb as poo poo.
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Turdfuzz posted:the suffering of upset fans is my garmonbozia
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Do you think Lynch gave us two endings, like ep 17 is one and ep 18 is another? I prefer ep 17 as the true ending of Cooper saving Laura. Also thought it was interesting that Diane looked like the Blue Rose lady from FWWM.
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pissdude posted:Holy moly - this actually makes SO much sense
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Turdfuzz posted:the suffering of upset fans is my garmonbozia
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Remember when people thought Cooper was going to go home to his family and send his Tulpa to work at the FBI or something? Haha
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Good Will Hrunting posted:this is dumb as poo poo. Seriously, for an 18-episode show, that poo poo is way too convenient. None of these theories take any of the previous episodes into consideration. It's all just based on the last hour. No Mods No Masters posted:Remember when people thought Cooper was going to go home to his family and send his Tulpa to work at the FBI or something? I totally called him being less caring after 25 years. The guy doesn't even take the time to drink his coffee anymore.
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Also, Cooper rescuing her from the woods wouldn't actually solve any of Laura's problems. She'd still be at the mercy of BOB/Leland, if she didn't die that night, she'd die soon after.
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Good Will Hrunting posted:this is dumb as poo poo. You really think so? I think it actually cements a lot of the repeated themes of Dreamers and Living in Dreams throughout the season. It even makes sense as to why it cuts to Sarah's house with her groaning and screeching and smashing the bottle against the picture of Laura repeatedly - the picture remains undamaged despite being carved at by broken glass. Cooper approached her in the FWWM scene, she recognized him from her dreams previously - that scratchy sound happened and she got sucked away (presumably by Judy) into a pocket dream world where she had a different identity, everything was changed etc. Cooper went there anyway against Diane's warnings that things could change or be different, tried to remind Laura of her true self, and only when she heard her mother's calling outside the house and began screaming did the power shut off and the lights shatter did the dream world start to crumble and she started coming out of her delusion. She was even being kept at a place called Judy's to live out a menial life. Judy was enraged that her poo poo was being hosed with because the lodge spirits had set up quite a nice little operation in the real world farming garmonbozia from the citizens.
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Freddie pounded Bob into dust. He won't be bothering anyone anymore.
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Low Desert Punk posted:Also, Cooper rescuing her from the woods wouldn't actually solve any of Laura's problems. She'd still be at the mercy of BOB/Leland, if she didn't die that night, she'd die soon after. Yeah, I'm fairly sure Cooper was trying to take her to the theatre where the Major's head was chilling out. Laura wasn't actually going back to her earthly home.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I haven't felt this way at the end of a piece of media since I saw Tati's Trafic. Hell, I'm not sure I've EVER felt this way about a piece of media. I was talking to someone who hasn't watched the show about it, and they asked if it was "like LOST" because it "didn't have an ending." Now, I loved LOST at the time, but that ending feels so conventional compared to this, it's amazing. I'm infuriated, really. But I love that I'm feeling SOMETHING.
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I think that if the concept of interconnected dream worlds and higher dimensions holds up, that the lodge spirits kind of transcend that poo poo - when Freddie destroys Bob, he's gone for good, in any timeline or alternate universe.
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If that's the homes real owner, maybe they just teleported into the real world.
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Cooper is Rick Sanchez.
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In the end Laura Palmer was Cooper's obsession, his siren, who lured him to his own doom and the doom of innumerable innocents and bystanders. Indeed, he even manages to doom Laura Palmer herself, somehow even more than she was already doomed. He, and perhaps we, would have been better off never taking that case, never opening that door. In conclusion, David Lynch thinks murders should not be investigated.
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Accretionist posted:If that's the homes real owner, maybe they just teleported into the real world. the final dossier or whatever is going to be mailed to all Showtime Anytime subscribers homes in physical form
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That's the loving ending to Twin Peaks? What a god damned waste this entire season has been.
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pissdude posted:I think that if the concept of interconnected dream worlds and higher dimensions holds up, that the lodge spirits kind of transcend that poo poo - when Freddie destroys Bob, he's gone for good, in any timeline or alternate universe. Except we see the interactive flashback to the night Laura died after BOB is destroyed, and we still see a presumably possessed Leland and Laura still mentions stuff tangentially related to BOB's hold over her.
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No Mods No Masters posted:In the end Laura Palmer was Cooper's obsession, his siren, who lured him to his own doom and the doom of innumerable innocents and bystanders. Indeed, he even manages to doom Laura Palmer herself, somehow even more than she was already doomed. He, and perhaps we, would have been better off never taking that case, never opening that door. I'm pretty sure it was a happy ending.
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The show's ending visual - Cooper trapped endlessly in the whispered secret, forever distressed.
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Accretionist posted:If that's the homes real owner, maybe they just teleported into the real world. Calling it now: Season four will be hours upon hours of Candid Camera-style practical jokes involving Cooper. No Mods No Masters posted:In conclusion, David Lynch thinks murders should not be investigated. You're Michael J. Anderson, aren't you?
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No Mods No Masters posted:In the end Laura Palmer was Cooper's obsession, his siren, who lured him to his own doom and the doom of innumerable innocents and bystanders. Indeed, he even manages to doom Laura Palmer herself, somehow even more than she was already doomed. He, and perhaps we, would have been better off never taking that case, never opening that door. He's basically the guy from the Otto Preminger movie Laura, which hey is also about a dude getting obsessed with and unhealthily idealizing a murder victim named Laura that also turns out to be not quite so dead. Raxivace fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Sep 4, 2017 |
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Cooper will be forever saving Laura. My prayer is to linger with you/At the end of the day in a dream that's divine
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I forget did that scene between James and Laura happen in the original series or did they young the actors up a bit for it. Couldn't tell if it was new or they were just inserting shots of Cooper into it.
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Accretionist posted:If that's the homes real owner, maybe they just teleported into the real world. Season 4: Cooper/Richard teams up with 3D CGI Homer Simpson to...uh...take down Judy's Garmonbozia/Erotic Cake cartel?
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Diane being transferred from one reality to the other during the sex scene was so unbelievably chilling I can't believe it's real.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:That sex scene was terrifying. It looked to me like Diane was realizing that after it was over she wasn't going to exist anymore as a result of Cooper teleporting to wherever the hell it is he ended up since I don't think there are any goddamn palm trees in Odessa, Texas. It's in West Texas for chrissakes.
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Diane's entire existence and everything that happens to her is so bleak my brain just kind of bounces off of it tbh
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