Trump Thread II: The man make a tweet

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SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

botany posted:

i'd add that when the south koreans rioted because they didn't want to be divided and occupied, the US-SK leadership started banning political parties and declaring martial law. the election was also boycotted by a good number of south korean politicians, not just the soviet faction.

Actually when that took place was their reaction to having to wait for countryship and independence. They and many others disagreed that Korea should have to wait

Honestly, who the gently caress here is stupid enough to be calling for military action?

# ? Sep 4, 2017 15:51

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 10:25

glowing-fish: Feb 18, 2013; Keep grinding,
I hope you level up!

Yesterday I said there was like a 25/50/25 chance that Irma was a disaster, had an effect, and did nothing.

At this point, I would say that its 99% certain that Irma causes damage. Its split half and half between major damage and catastrophic damage.

There is no way Irma doesn't hurt someone, now.

Also, there is the developing system following behind it, and another system developing in the Bay of Campuche.

These storms are going to cause damage, and be the main topic of news for the next one to two weeks.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 15:52

skylined!: Apr 6, 2012; THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

glowing-fish posted:

It is kind of weird looking at that map: the left half of that map is full of signs of fire, but the right side has no fire.

Its almost like there is something in common that places like California and Idaho have, that places like Ohio and North Carolina do not.

I have no idea what it would be, I don't know where I get the idea that there is some type of fundamental difference in landscape between Idaho and Indiana. Obviously Idaho and Indiana are both the same because they are sparsely populated and totally rural. Its just weird that this map doesn't reflect this?

Id give lowtax another $10 if it meant I never had to read another geography post by you again.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 15:55

glowing-fish: Feb 18, 2013; Keep grinding,
I hope you level up!

BattleMaster posted:

edit: I think there are also parallels with exploiting the suburb/downtown divide versus exploiting the rural/urban divide, just on a different scale

Trump exploited the Suburban/Urban divide.

One of the ways he did it was by telling suburbanites that they were rural.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 15:56

coyo7e: Aug 23, 2007; by zen death robot

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/904164319373516802

skylined! posted:

Id give lowtax another $10 if it meant I never had to read another geography post by you again.

To really go down the glowing fish Rabbit Hole you have to go to the Pacific Northwest thread and read his bizarre series of charts trying futilely to explain election demographics with excel.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 15:58

Classtoise: Feb 11, 2008; THINKS CON-AIR WAS A GOOD MOVIE

Koalas March posted:

I would like to nip this conversation in the bud. Not you, specifically Krispy Kareem, as your friend is a woc but jeez.

It seems like "I was in the sun and went from Papaya Whip to Apricot, and someone said a mean thing to my face, now I feel unsafe" is getting dangerously close to "I had my whiteness questioned, they treated me like a minority, so they could go after anyone!" I don't think that's been the intention so far but I want you guys to be aware.

It also seems dangerously close to "I didn't believe the person of color saying it was hurtful until I, a White Person™, experienced it and now it matters.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 15:59

glowing-fish: Feb 18, 2013; Keep grinding,
I hope you level up!

skylined! posted:

Id give lowtax another $10 if it meant I never had to read another geography post by you again.

And instead of giving Lowtax money, what you have done is give your country over to Donald Trump.

When you accept the reality of United States society: that the US' social direction is being controlled by suburbanites whose culture has disappeared, and who thus must cling to a caricacture of themselves as living in the "heartland", and you start refusing to engage with the narrative of people in suburban Ohio that they are the great neglected hinterland of the country, then you can do something.

But as long as you believe the cornerstone of Trumpism: that Eastern, suburban whites are a marginalized group, there is nothing that can be done.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:00

Moatman: Mar 21, 2014; Because the goof is all mine.

I had a dream last night that NK nuked the US. This dumbfuck in chief is not good for my blood pressure.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:01

Pollyanna: Mar 5, 2005; Milk's on them.

Moatman posted:

I had a dream last night that NK nuked the US. This dumbfuck in chief is not good for my blood pressure.

What did it feel like to get nuked?

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:05

sugar free jazz: Mar 5, 2008

glowing-fish posted:

And instead of giving Lowtax money, what you have done is give your country over to Donald Trump.

When you accept the reality of United States society: that the US' social direction is being controlled by suburbanites whose culture has disappeared, and who thus must cling to a caricacture of themselves as living in the "heartland", and you start refusing to engage with the narrative of people in suburban Ohio that they are the great neglected hinterland of the country, then you can do something.

But as long as you believe the cornerstone of Trumpism: that Eastern, suburban whites are a marginalized group, there is nothing that can be done.

Wait aren't you the guy who like INSISTED that New York didn't have mountains?

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:09

coyo7e: Aug 23, 2007; by zen death robot

https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/epa-response-aps-misleading-story

quote:

Yesterday, the Associated Press’ Michael Biesecker wrote an incredibly misleading story about toxic land sites that are under water.

Last I had heard, the EPA couldn't even reach most of these sites.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:09

Koalas March: May 21, 2007

Classtoise posted:

It also seems dangerously close to "I didn't believe the person of color saying it was hurtful until I, a White Person™, experienced it and now it matters.

Indeed. I was trying to pick my words carefully because it's a topic littered with white fragility landmines, but...

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:11

DaveWoo: Aug 14, 2004; Fun Shoe

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/904692225665327104

You can taste the populism.

coyo7e posted:

https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/epa-response-aps-misleading-story

Last I had heard, the EPA couldn't even reach most of these sites.

That EPA statement contains a link to a loving Breitbart article, jesus christ :cripes:

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:12

On Terra Firma: Feb 12, 2008

coyo7e posted:

https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/epa-response-aps-misleading-story

Last I had heard, the EPA couldn't even reach most of these sites.

They're lying.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:12

Hieronymous Alloy: Jan 30, 2009; Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!; Morbid Hound

coyo7e posted:

https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/epa-response-aps-misleading-story

Last I had heard, the EPA couldn't even reach most of these sites.

Thats a bizarrely unprofessional press release

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:13

FuturePastNow: May 19, 2014

coyo7e posted:

https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/epa-response-aps-misleading-story

Last I had heard, the EPA couldn't even reach most of these sites.

That's what the EPA said. Reporters got to the sites just fine.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:13

hanales: Nov 3, 2013

glowing-fish posted:

And instead of giving Lowtax money, what you have done is give your country over to Donald Trump.

When you accept the reality of United States society: that the US' social direction is being controlled by suburbanites whose culture has disappeared, and who thus must cling to a caricacture of themselves as living in the "heartland", and you start refusing to engage with the narrative of people in suburban Ohio that they are the great neglected hinterland of the country, then you can do something.

But as long as you believe the cornerstone of Trumpism: that Eastern, suburban whites are a marginalized group, there is nothing that can be done.

Shut the gently caress up about Ohio. Whatever you think you learned driving through Toledo once is not representative of the state.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:14

glowing-fish: Feb 18, 2013; Keep grinding,
I hope you level up!

sugar free jazz posted:

Wait aren't you the guy who like INSISTED that New York didn't have mountains?

I thought that was a common sense assertion. I was honestly surprised, and am still surprised, that people disagree with such an obvious statement.

To be culturally sensitive, and to not offend, yes, some of the parts of the Appalachian Range could be considered "mountains". Mostly they are hills.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:14

Koalas March: May 21, 2007

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Thats a bizarrely unprofessional press release

I mean, it's to be expected at this point.

hanales posted:

Shut the gently caress up about Ohio. Whatever you think you learned driving through Toledo once is not representative of the state.

Last time I was driving through Toledo, I was trying to find some tampons in some backwards rear end store (I think they were by the wine or some poo poo??) and I got accosted by a racist clerk. That was one of my better Ohio experiences there. gently caress Ohio, University of Michigan 4L.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:16

Slow News Day: Jul 4, 2007

glowing-fish posted:

I thought that was a common sense assertion. I was honestly surprised, and am still surprised, that people disagree with such an obvious statement.

To be culturally sensitive, and to not offend, yes, some of the parts of the Appalachian Range could be considered "mountains". Mostly they are hills.

Holy poo poo dude. Seriously, shut the gently caress up.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:17

Deteriorata: Feb 6, 2005

glowing-fish posted:

I thought that was a common sense assertion. I was honestly surprised, and am still surprised, that people disagree with such an obvious statement.

To be culturally sensitive, and to not offend, yes, some of the parts of the Appalachian Range could be considered "mountains". Mostly they are hills.

In a few million years, the Rockies will look the same. Enjoy it while it lasts. :smug:

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:17

William Contraalto: Aug 23, 2017; by Smythe

Koalas March posted:

gently caress Ohio, University of Michigan 4L.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:18

Hollismason: Jun 30, 2007; An alright dude.

Ah yes the "hills" of New York State

(That's White Face Mountain)

The Adirondacks are part of New York State

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:18

CitizenKain: May 27, 2001; That was Gary Cooper, asshole.; Nap Ghost

gently caress SNEEP posted:

My poor beautiful Mt. Rainier

It's been like that here in Montana for almost a month now. Huge chunks of this state are on fire and I don't think there has been a peep from anyone in the Trump admin.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:19

skylined!: Apr 6, 2012; THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

sorry guys. i shouldn't have tempted fate re:glow fish and geochat. please don't take the bait.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:19

Majorian: Jul 1, 2009

DaveWoo posted:

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/904692225665327104

You can taste the populism.

I hope the Democrats run against poo poo like this. Highlight Trump's betrayal of his populist promises, tie them to Republican ideology, and outflank him.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:20

Boon: Jun 21, 2005; by R. Guyovich

glowing-fish posted:

I thought that was a common sense assertion. I was honestly surprised, and am still surprised, that people disagree with such an obvious statement.

To be culturally sensitive, and to not offend, yes, some of the parts of the Appalachian Range could be considered "mountains". Mostly they are hills.

As someone who lived in Hawaii I can confidently state that Montana does not have mountains.

Boon fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Sep 4, 2017

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:21

F_Shit_Fitzgerald: Feb 2, 2017

It's not getting much recognition over here, but McDonald's workers in England are striking for better pay:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-mcdonalds/mcdonalds-workers-stage-companys-first-strike-in-britain-idUSKCN1BF19N

Edit: I'm posting this because although it doesn't directly involve Fuehrer Trump, I think it's an interesting development. If they can strike, maybe American Mcworkers can strike.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:24

Hollismason: Jun 30, 2007; An alright dude.

It's like someone got all of their information on geography from one of those globes that had elevated parts of it.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:24

shrike82: Jun 11, 2005

DaveWoo posted:

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/904692225665327104

lmao, i actually want to see the GOP do this to see the gnashing and wailing of the upper middle class Trump supporters

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:25

skylined!: Apr 6, 2012; THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

remember when everyone was predicting the mosquito stuff in texas would be bad

https://imgur.com/gallery/pyw7W

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:26

Avalanche: Feb 2, 2007

California is mostly blue, but the central valley might as well be Kentucky. Some of the worst poverty and racism in the nation, and can also be considered a Western Appalachia of sorts. Too bad all the farm owners didn't realize that all of their profits come from exploiting cheap as gently caress undocumented immigrant labor:

http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-farms-immigration/

quote:

Wages rise on California farms. Americans still don�t want the job
Trump�s immigration crackdown is supposed to help U.S. citizens. For California farmers, it�s worsening a desperate labor shortage.
By NATALIE KITROEFF AND GEOFFREY MOHAN

MARCH 17, 2017 | REPORTING FROM STOCKTON, CALIF.

Arnulfo Solorio�s desperate mission to recruit farmworkers for the Napa Valley took him far from the pastoral vineyards to a raggedy parking lot in Stockton, in the heart of the Central Valley.

Solorio recruiting workers in Stockton

Carrying a fat stack of business cards for his company, Silverado Farming, Solorio approached one prospect, a man with only his bottom set of teeth. He told Solorio that farm work in Stockton pays $11 to $12 an hour. Solorio countered: �Look, we are paying $14.50 now, but we are going up to $16.� The man nodded skeptically.

Solorio moved on to two men huddled nearby, and returned quickly. �They were drug addicts,� he said. �And, they didn�t have a car.�

Before the day was through, Solorio would make the same pitch to dozens of men and women, approaching a taco truck, a restaurant and a homeless encampment. Time was short: He needed to find 100 workers to fill his ranks by April 1, when grapevines begin to grow and need constant attention.

Solorio is one of a growing number of agricultural businessmen who say they face an urgent shortage of workers. The flow of labor began drying up when President Obama tightened the border. Now President Trump is promising to deport more people, raid more companies and build a wall on the southern border.

Workers prune grapevines at the Napa Valley vineyard of Silverado Farming. Cabernet Sauvignon grapes in Napa go for nearly $6,900 per ton, 10 times more than in San Joaquin County. (Gary Coronado / Los Angeles Times)
That has made California farms a proving ground for the Trump team�s theory that by cutting off the flow of immigrants they will free up more jobs for American-born workers and push up their wages.

So far, the results aren�t encouraging for farmers or domestic workers.

Farmers are being forced to make difficult choices about whether to abandon some of the state�s hallmark fruits and vegetables, move operations abroad, import workers under a special visa or replace them altogether with machines.

Growers who can afford it have already begun raising worker pay well beyond minimum wage. Wages for crop production in California increased by 13% from 2010 to 2015, twice as fast as average pay in the state, according to a Los Angeles Times analysis of data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Today, farmworkers in the state earn about $30,000 a year if they work full time � about half the overall average pay in California. Most work fewer hours.

Some farmers are even giving laborers benefits normally reserved for white-collar professionals, like 401(k) plans, health insurance, subsidized housing and profit-sharing bonuses. Full-timers at Silverado Farming, for example, get most of those sweeteners, plus 10 paid vacation days, eight paid holidays, and can earn their hourly rate to take English classes.

But the raises and new perks have not tempted native-born Americans to leave their day jobs for the fields. Nine in 10 agriculture workers in California are still foreign born, and more than half are undocumented, according to a federal survey.

Instead, companies growing high-value crops, like Cabernet Sauvignon grapes in Napa, are luring employees from fields in places like Stockton that produce cheaper wine grapes or less profitable fruits and vegetables.

Growers who can�t raise wages are losing their employees and dealing with it by mechanizing, downsizing or switching to less labor-intensive crops.

Jeff Klein is doing all of the above. Last year Klein, a fourth-generation Stockton farmer, ran a mental ledger, trying to sort out the pros and cons of persevering in the wine business or quitting. He couldn�t make the math work.

Wineries pay Klein a tiny fraction of what they pony up for the same grape variety grown in Napa, and the rising cost of labor meant he was losing money on his vineyards. So in October, Klein decided to rip out 113,000 Chardonnay grapevines that once blanketed land his family has owned for decades. Now they lay heaped into hundreds of piles, waiting to be taken to the dump.

Jeff Klein, a fourth-generation Stockton farmer, knew his vines were done for when California passed laws raising the minimum wage to $15 by 2023 and requiring overtime for field laborers. (Gary Coronado / Los Angeles Times)
�I try to make any decision I make not emotional. When you�re running a business, it has to be a financial decision,� he says, sifting through the mangled metal posts.

Five years ago, Klein had a crew of 100 workers pruning, tying and suckering his grapevines. Wineries paid $700 for a ton of grapes, and Klein could make a solid profit paying $8 an hour, the minimum wage.

Last year he could barely get together 45 laborers, and his grapes sold for only $350 per ton. Klein knew his vines were done for when California passed laws raising the minimum wage to $15 by 2023 and requiring overtime for field laborers.

�There�s not enough guys, and everybody is fighting for everybody else�s guys,� he says. �In Napa and Sonoma, they�re getting $2,000 a ton [for grapes]. So, those guys can afford to pay $15. For me, I�m just trying to break even.�

California farmers can�t find enough laborers

Although Trump earned Klein�s vote, he worries that recent executive orders ratcheting up deportation plans and calling for a wall are putting a chokehold on an already tight pool of workers.

�That�s killing our labor force,� says the 35-year-old grower.

Already, fewer Mexicans had been willing to risk border crossings as security and deportations escalated under the Obama Administration. At the same time, Mexico�s own economy was mushrooming, offering decent jobs for people who stayed behind.

With the grapevines he has left, Klein is doing what he can to pare his crews. Last year, he bought a leaf puller for $50,000, which turns the delicate process of culling grapevine canopies into an exercise in brute force. The puller hooks onto a tractor and, like an oddly shaped vacuum cleaner, sucks leaves from grapevines.

He used to spend $100 an acre culling the canopies, which allows the right amount of sunlight to hit the grapes and turn them into sugar balls. Now, he says, �It will cost me 20 bucks, and I can get rid of some labor.�

Klein says he�ll spend the next five years replacing his 1,000 acres of grapevines with almond and olive trees, which require a fraction of the human contact to grow.

About 80 miles west in Napa, growers aren�t facing quite the same challenge. Cabernet Sauvignon grapes in Napa go for nearly $6,900 per ton, 10 times more than in San Joaquin County.

That�s the reason that Napa County pays its farmworkers $41,940 a year, the highest in California, our analysis of federal data shows.

That�s also why Leovijildo Martinez clambers into a van around 4:40 a.m. every morning to travel from Stockton to the Napa Valley.

By 6:30 a.m. he is on a Napa vineyard, and 12 hours later, he returns to his two-bedroom apartment.

�You get home, you shower, you eat a couple of tortillas with whatever is here,� Martinez says. He gets to see his kids� faces and give them a hug before turning in at 9:30 p.m. They still complain about not seeing him enough.

�It�s hard for me as a man and as a father,� he says.

Leovijildo Martinez, who commutes to the Napa Valley from Stockton each day, earns $19.50 an hour working vineyards that produce grapes for a winery whose bottles go for about $300. (Gary Coronado / Los Angeles Times)

Farmworker Leobijildo Martinez tends to the grapevines at Silverado Farming in Napa Valley. (Gary Coronado / Los Angeles Times)

Workers at Silverado Farming take a break. Full-timers at Silverado get benefits that include 10 paid vacation days, eight paid holidays and pay for taking English classes. (Gary Coronado / Los Angeles Times)
But the commute is paying off. A year ago, the 31-year-old from Mexico was earning $14.75 an hour doing the same work for a different Napa company. He joined Silverado in April and now he�s making $19.50 working vineyards that produce grapes for a winery whose bottles go for about $300.

�Everything in Napa is different. They treat you differently there, they don�t pressure you, and they respect the law,� he says. �If you work here, in Stockton, you don�t have enough money.�

According to the economic theory behind Trump�s immigration crackdown, Americans should be following Martinez�s van into the fields.

�The law of supply and demand doesn�t stop being true just because you�re talking about people,� says George Borjas, a Harvard economist and prominent foe of unfettered immigration. �[Farmers] have had an almost endless supply of low-skill workers for a long time, and now they are finding it difficult to transition to a situation where they don�t.�

Borjas believes the ones who reap the rewards of immigration are employers � not just farmers, but restaurant owners and well-to-do homeowners who hire landscapers and housekeepers. The people who suffer most are American workers, who contend with more competition for jobs and lower pay.

But Silverado, the farm labor contracting company in Napa, has never had a white, American-born person take an entry-level gig, even after the company increased hourly wages to $4 above the minimum. And Silverado is far from unique.

U.S. workers filled just 2% of a sample of farm labor vacancies advertised in 1996, according to a report published by the Labor Department�s office of inspector general. �I don�t think anybody would dispute that that�s roughly the way it is now� as well, says Philip Martin, an economist at UC Davis and one of the country�s leading experts on agriculture.

Indeed, Chalmers R. Carr III, the president of Titan Farms, a South Carolina peach giant, told lawmakers at a 2013 hearing that he advertised 2,000 job openings from 2010 through 2012. Carr said he was paying $9.39, $2 more than the state�s minimum wage at the time.

�
You don�t need a deep analysis to understand why farm work wouldn�t be attractive to young Americans
�

He hired 483 U.S. applicants, slightly less than a quarter of what he needed; 109 didn�t show up on the first day. Another 321 of them quit, �the vast majority in the first two days,� Carr testified. Only 31 lasted for the entire peach season.

Borjas, the Harvard economist, says that it may just be that wages are still too low. �Believe me, if the wages were really, really high, you and I would be lining up,� Borjas says.

Or perhaps farms are just not a place where native-born Americans want to work. The job is seasonal, so laborers have to alternate between long stretches without any income and then months of 60-hour weeks. They work in extreme heat and cold, and spend all day bending over to reach vegetables or climbing up and down ladders to pluck fruit in trees.

�You don�t need a deep analysis to understand why farm work wouldn�t be attractive to young Americans,� says Martin, the agriculture expert.

If farmers upped the average wage to, say, $25 an hour, people born here might think twice. But that�s a pipe dream, many argue.

�Well before we got to $25, there would be machines out in the fields, doing pruning or harvesting, or we would lose crops,� Martin says.

Already, strawberry growers in Ventura are experimenting with robots that plant seedlings, and growers in Central Coast counties are culling, weeding and even harvesting heads of lettuce with machines. At the outer edge, engineers are trying to teach machines to pick fruit.

Brad Goehring, a fourth-generation farmer, is re-engineering his vineyards so they can be harvested entirely by machines.

The 52-year-old owns 500 acres of wine grapes in Lodi, near Stockton. He tends another 10,000 or so acres of vineyards that belong to several clients across Northern California.

Being the boss used to be fun for Goehring, but his labor problems are wearying.

In the last five years, he has advertised in local newspapers and accepted more than a dozen unemployed applicants from the state�s job agency. Even when the average rate on his fields was $20 an hour, the U.S.-born workers lost interest, fast.

�We�ve never had one come back after lunch,� he says.

For now, Goehring is betting his future on 10 floppy rows of Malbec vines. The vines, visible from the slender country road that borders Goehring�s house, were among his first experiments in mechanization.

About five years ago, Goehring changed the wiring holding up parts of his vines so that no metal stakes exceed the height of the wire. The setup allows for a machine to prune the top of the vine, as well as both sides.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:26

Boris Galerkin: Dec 17, 2011; I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

I've lived in the east coast state of Ohio before and I can tell you it's poo poo.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:26

hanales: Nov 3, 2013

Koalas March posted:

I mean, it's to be expected at this point.

Last time I was driving through Toledo, I was trying to find some tampons in some backwards rear end store (I think they were by the wine or some poo poo??) and I got accosted by a racist clerk. That was one of my better Ohio experiences there. gently caress Ohio, University of Michigan 4L.

Toledo isn't great. Cleveland is a little better on the casual racism front, but of course it still exists, especially if you travel into the semi-rural hinterlands.

My issue with him are his random definitions of suburban and rural, and somehow thinking the culture of youngstown is closer to new york city than small towns in wyoming, because they deign to have a hospital, regardless of what the actual norms, outcomes and cultural life is actually like.

Like, Ohio isn't the greatest state, but it's not all that different from any of the larger rust belt states. Claiming that people from Cleveland think they are rural or something is ignorant, and claiming that the people in amish country AREN'T rural is the same level of ignorance.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:26

Mr Ice Cream Glove: Apr 22, 2007

So Trump is ending DACA, taxing 401ks and ending trade deals with south korea, canada and Mexico.

Won't this crater our economy?

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:28

The Lord of Hats: Aug 22, 2010; Hello, yes! Is being very good day for posting, no?

Boon posted:

As someone who lived in Hawaii I can confidently state that Montana does not have mountains.

As someone who lives in Minnesota, I can confidently state: what's a mountain?

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:29

Deteriorata: Feb 6, 2005

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

So Trump is ending DACA, taxing 401ks and ending trade deals with south korea, canada and Mexico.

Won't this crater our economy?

Republican economic policy is to crater the economy and blame the Democrat who inherits it.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:30

moostaffa: Apr 2, 2008; People always ask me about Toad, It's fantastic. Let me tell you about Toad. I do very well with Toad. I love Toad. No one loves Toad more than me, BELIEVE ME. Toad loves me. I have the best Toad.

lol, Matt Damon on Trump: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/matt-damon-george-clooney-trump-suburbicon-racism-america-1034503

quote:

Have you ever met Trump?

No. The deal was that if you wanted to shoot in one of his buildings, you had to write him in a part. [Director] Martin Brest had to write something in Scent of a Woman � and the whole crew was in on it. You have to waste an hour of your day with a bullshit shot: Donald Trump walks in and Al Pacino�s like, �Hello, Mr. Trump!� � you had to call him by name � and then he exits. You waste a little time so that you can get the permit, and then you can cut the scene out. But I guess in Home Alone 2 they left it in.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:30

Goatse James Bond: Mar 28, 2010; If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

So Trump is ending DACA, taxing 401ks and ending trade deals with south korea, canada and Mexico.

Won't this crater our economy?

that's probably a pretty safe bet, yes

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:30

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 10:25

Avalanche: Feb 2, 2007

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

So Trump is ending DACA, taxing 401ks and ending trade deals with south korea, canada and Mexico.

Won't this crater our economy?

Well, no you see, because, the best measurements of economic health are Mar A Lagos accounting books which are doing just fine this year.

# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:30

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