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"Bernie can't promise manufacturing jobs!!" Is the most disingenuous, feckless, centrist position ever. No, you can't make it 1950s again, but you can certainly invest in infrastructure and a green economy that will generate millions of manufacturing jobs.
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SKULL.GIF posted:suddenly I remember obama's complete and utter silence about the 2011 Wisconsin labor protests I don't see the big deal. I mean Wisconsin is roaring right now. SKULL.GIF posted:https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/904762253165154306 Who the gently caress is Tim Ryan? I keep hearing his name during the past few days but I have no idea who he is. punk rebel ecks has issued a correction as of 18:52 on Sep 4, 2017 |
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Frijolero posted:"Bernie can't promise manufacturing jobs!!" Yea but good jobs are racist Can't have that
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https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/904762253165154306 Names mentioned: Senator Kamala Harris Former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. Representative Tim Ryan Senator Kirsten E. Gillibrand Governor Terry McAuliffe Senator Bernie Sanders Senator Elizabeth Warren Representative John Delaney
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Sep 4, 2017 18:50
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comedyblissoption posted:society basically needs to be transformed away from traditional capitalist employer/employee relationships to worker co-ops or some other democratizing force in the workplace. Every business with over 1,000 employees should turn into a coop or at least partially one.
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Vilerat.com rates this as PARTLY TRUE: - He is a cat who really is gone - It is a shame how he carries on BUT - There is no Russian queen for him to be the lover of
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what the absolute gently caress is my new av lol
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Sapozhnik posted:automation is coming, but there's a lot of techno-fetishism around say self-driving cars that is in no way rooted in reality right now. but, unlike offshoring it is indeed a credible threat that can be deployed by capital against labor right now. loving lol if you think appeasement of these monsters is going to help though. I'm extremely thristy for human enhancement but only through a national health service as a counterbalance to automation. We should honestly start investigating silicon valley companies for human experimentation with their 'biohacking'
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it's weird when centrists attack leftist policies from the right in ways that can be applied by right-wingers to centrist policies, like "how are you going to pay for all that free stuff"
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jBrereton posted:what the absolute gently caress is my new av lol RIP to HOW HIGH THE MOON another poster lost to time
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Can't wait for 2020 Hillary to tell me we can't have nice things, but we can sure as heck bomb Muslims.
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Sep 4, 2017 18:54
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Sapozhnik posted:not everything is computer touching or manufacturing, and not everything can be offshored. you can't offshore builders or waitresses or cleaners or delivery drivers or any number of menial but essential occupations whose workers are currently treated as less than human. my main point is focusing on just unions in the context of the traditional employer-employee relationship is a doomed cause. it can help ameliorate suffering in the short-term, but ultimately it is destined to fail. the focus needs to be on creating economic relationships where the important economic decisions are made democratically and not by a tiny minority.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Every business with over 1,000 employees should turn into a coop or at least partially one. People keep going on about the internet revolution while purposely ignoring one of it's most revolutionary applications so they can make more wifi salt shakers.
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Lawman 0 posted:People keep going on about the internet revolution while purposely ignoring one of it's most revolutionary applications so they can make more wifi salt shakers. Could you elaborate?
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lmao manufacturing jobs are not actually necessary for prosperity the reason people want those jobs back is because they were well-paid and didn't require formal education. why is that? literally due to the intervention of the feds after ww2 when they realized their army of ptsd-afflicted soldiers was going to come home to poo poo-tier jobs that would lead to another bonus army factory jobs did not pay well before that. they were the premier example of wage slavery. there is literally nothing stopping the same sort of process from lifting today's poo poo-tier jobs like retail and fast food up so that people in them can have comfortable lives other than the avarice of the wealthy
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I just can't believe that people loved Hillary for being "realistic." What kind of loveless idiot wants to be told that better things aren't possible???
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Sep 4, 2017 18:56
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Frijolero posted:I just can't believe that people loved Hillary for being "realistic." hall monitors
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Frijolero posted:I just can't believe that people loved Hillary for being "realistic." "Death is certain."
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Jazerus posted:lmao manufacturing jobs are not actually necessary for prosperity once again centrists take the absolute wrong and bubbled interpretation of what the people are yelling at them "we want good jobs!!!" ---> "wow, they really love factory work. guess we'll fight to bring back factory work." "the economy is crushing us!!!" ---> "wow the average rube cares a lot about the dow index. guess we'll fight to expand the economy."
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Frijolero posted:I just can't believe that people loved Hillary for being "realistic."
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punk rebel ecks posted:Could you elaborate? the saltero will revolutionize salt shaking as we know it
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punk rebel ecks posted:Could you elaborate? Running coops through the internet so you could get worker owner decisions quickly and efficiently as well as feedback on the elected management.
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Frijolero posted:I just can't believe that people loved Hillary for being "realistic." quote:But promoting or endorsing any specific policy orientation is not the show’s true raison d’être. At the conclusion of its seven seasons it remains unclear if the Bartlet administration has succeeded at all in fundamentally altering the contours of American life. In fact, after two terms in the White House, Bartlet’s gang of hyper-educated, hyper-competent politicos do not seem to have any transformational policy achievements whatsoever. Even in their most unconstrained and idealized political fantasies, liberals manage to accomplish nothing.
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logikv9 posted:the saltero will revolutionize salt shaking as we know it *smalt
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Squizzle posted:*smalt god that's dumb
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liberals know the problem is the pets, not the pet shop
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*my shrek nuts
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comedyblissoption posted:https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/04/how-liberals-fell-in-love-with-the-west-wing I will never forget that one of the major proposals of the west wing White House was a tax deduction for college tuition that they then completely forgot about after Jed got reelected
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I'm not entirely convinced sorkin wasn't writing the show ironically
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salt.ly
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I will never forget that one of the major proposals of the west wing White House was a tax deduction for college tuition that they then completely forgot about after Jed got reelected
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salt.io
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comedyblissoption posted:https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/04/how-liberals-fell-in-love-with-the-west-wing violent revolution to purge these people is the only acceptable outcome
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u misspellt nothing, op
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apologies for not quoting, the awful app doesn't embed gifv
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SKULL.GIF posted:once again centrists take the absolute wrong and bubbled interpretation of what the people are yelling at them the ahistoricity of modern politics is one of the things that bothers me the most, there is absolutely no examination of why the economy used to be good and why it is now bad, ever
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I'm not entirely convinced sorkin wasn't writing the show ironically sorkin left at the end of the season where the reëlection happened tho
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logikv9 posted:apologies for not quoting, the awful app doesn't embed gifv what yes it does, at least on an roid
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