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Fateo McMurray
Mar 22, 2003

Teemu Pokemon posted:

It's actually not and Evgeni Malkin desperately needs his rear end kicked

Yeah I'd rather have Line Pairings Chat every page than hear anything about the penguins ever again

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Gio
Jun 20, 2005


ElwoodCuse posted:

I understand why many rooted for the Sharks and Predators but you have to admit it's Cool and Good that MAF and the Penguins killed the Red Wings for the foreseeable future in 2009

that is quite the pretense

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
Which playoff series did actually break teams? The 2011 SCF seems like the obvious first choice, but what else? Maybe Leafs-Bruins 2013 but I don't know if the 2013 Leafs counted as not-broken to begin with.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Hand Knit posted:

Which playoff series did actually break teams? The 2011 SCF seems like the obvious first choice, but what else? Maybe Leafs-Bruins 2013 but I don't know if the 2013 Leafs counted as not-broken to begin with.

That's kind of a tough call because I picture breaking a team being different from one that just loaded up big for one year's push and coming up short and having to sell off.

Glambags
Dec 28, 2003

Does Chris Kreider breaking Carey Price count

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

Hand Knit posted:

Which playoff series did actually break teams? The 2011 SCF seems like the obvious first choice, but what else? Maybe Leafs-Bruins 2013 but I don't know if the 2013 Leafs counted as not-broken to begin with.

Ottawa losing in 2007 set them up for 10 years of Bryan Murray. But one could argue that was coming no matter what.

I'm not sure playoffs can really break teams. See Boston coming back a year after being up 3-0 and losing to Philly, and San Jose recovering from the same vs LA.

Thufir
May 19, 2004

"The fucking Mayans were right."

Hand Knit posted:

Which playoff series did actually break teams? The 2011 SCF seems like the obvious first choice, but what else? Maybe Leafs-Bruins 2013 but I don't know if the 2013 Leafs counted as not-broken to begin with.

2014 Avs making the playoffs at all tricked them into thinking they were good and Roy was a good coach.

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

The 2015 first round broke... my heart. :smith:

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Yo I've not followed pro hockey in like ten years, what did I miss. Saw my old mediocre-as-hell hometown-ish team CBJ were in the playoffs last year, that's p. neat.

I live outside North America now, is NHL.tv generally of good quality for catching poo poo on-demand, since live games are at like 3am my time?

Drone fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Sep 4, 2017

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks

Hand Knit posted:

Which playoff series did actually break teams? The 2011 SCF seems like the obvious first choice, but what else? Maybe Leafs-Bruins 2013 but I don't know if the 2013 Leafs counted as not-broken to begin with.

I'd say 2012 where the Canucks won the President's Trophy again and got swept in the first round is what broke them, not 2011.

At least, that's what broke me.

Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.

Hand Knit posted:

Which playoff series did actually break teams? The 2011 SCF seems like the obvious first choice, but what else? Maybe Leafs-Bruins 2013 but I don't know if the 2013 Leafs counted as not-broken to begin with.

The 2013 series broke the team if you want to count their baffling offseason afterwards. Traded for Bolland. Signed Clarkson. Bought out Grabovski. Gave Bozak a huge deal.

I mean, it turns out buying Grabovski was the right move.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Somehow they took from that to emulate the team that went to 7 with them 2 years earlier instead of the one that stomped them hard in the first round.

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

Therrien broke my soul and my brain. Bergevin then broke it more.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Yaya posted:

I'd say 2012 where the Canucks won the President's Trophy again and got swept in the first round is what broke them, not 2011.

At least, that's what broke me.

Yeah I was going to say the same thing. That was the serious beginning of the "skill sucks get big!" movement that sunk that team. Boston had lit the fire, it was a full on conflagration after the Kings series.

Slappy Pappy
Oct 15, 2003

Mighty, mighty eagle soaring free
Defender of our homes and liberty
Bravery, humility, and honesty...
Mighty, mighty eagle, rescue me!
Dinosaur Gum
2010 Montreal comeback vs the Capitals. Caused Dale Hunter, Adam Oates and a whole bunch of "play the right way" nonsense.

fits
Jan 1, 2008

Love Always,
The Captain

Hand Knit posted:

Which playoff series did actually break teams? The 2011 SCF seems like the obvious first choice, but what else? Maybe Leafs-Bruins 2013 but I don't know if the 2013 Leafs counted as not-broken to begin with.

sabres havent won a series since 2006

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

Drone posted:

I live outside North America now, is NHL.tv generally of good quality for catching poo poo on-demand, since live games are at like 3am my time?

NHL.tv has been decent if you don't have to deal with blackouts. Games that aren't blacked out should be immediately available for replay but if a game is blacked out you have to wait 48 hours.

I don't have firsthand experience with non-NA use but I've heard it works the same way.

FBS fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Sep 4, 2017

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Gamecenter isn't available in Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden because of other deals they have. Your profile says Germany though so you should be good there.

In Europe you should be mostly free of blackouts, except what's shown by NHL partner channels in your country (if they have one.) NHL site says in Germany the ones applicable to you are Sport 1, and Sport 1 US. Even not watching live, a blacked out game means the replay only goes up 2 days later instead of immediately.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Slappy Pappy posted:

2010 Montreal comeback vs the Capitals. Caused Dale Hunter, Adam Oates and a whole bunch of "play the right way" nonsense.

That's a pretty good one, the Caps are a good team now but who knows what they could have done if they didn't spend those years in the wilderness before Trotz.

fits posted:

sabres havent won a series since 2006

This year's the first time the Oilers even made the playoffs since 2006

Gio
Jun 20, 2005


Hand Knit posted:

Which playoff series did actually break teams? The 2011 SCF seems like the obvious first choice, but what else? Maybe Leafs-Bruins 2013 but I don't know if the 2013 Leafs counted as not-broken to begin with.

2011 ECQF, Philly v. Boston? caused them to trade richards and carter, signed bryz to a bajillion dollars, have been more or less irrelevant since.

Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007



Definitely the Habs/Caps series. They were the best team in hockey, got insanely unlucky against Halak and just lost their goddamn minds over it.

Gio
Jun 20, 2005


i dont think that really qualifies since the caps have remained very competitive since then.

fits
Jan 1, 2008

Love Always,
The Captain

Pornographic Memory posted:


This year's the first time the Oilers even made the playoffs since 2006

still more playoff wins in the last decade than the sabres :smugdog:

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Gio posted:

i dont think that really qualifies since the caps have remained very competitive since then.

The Adam Oates era was not competitive

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

I know y'all are over hearing about the Penguins, but let's never forget the Pens/Flyers series that broke MAF for seasons afterward until he got a sports psychologist.

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
I wonder if Parise stays and Suter comes on board (which leads to Kovalchuk staying) if the Devils beat the Kings. Hall/Parise/Kovalchuk/Suter/Schneider would be a fun core to watch lose in the 1st/2nd round though you have to admit (even if those trades don't happen).

Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007



Gio posted:

i dont think that really qualifies since the caps have remained very competitive since then.

I mean, if the criteria is which legit contender completely collapsed because of one playoff series the answer is none of them. The Caps are notable in that they were historically good, then deliberately changed their style and makeup to be more playoff-oriented (which was dumb), hired a couple of idiot coaches to fight with their star, and wouldn't go back to winning the President's Trophy for 6 years.

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




Good Soldier Svejk posted:

I know y'all are over hearing about the Penguins, but let's never forget the Pens/Flyers series that broke MAF for seasons afterward until he got a sports psychologist.

How could I forget? That was the last time I was truly happy.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

Infidel Castro posted:

How could I forget? That was the last time I was truly happy.

I drank until I passed out more times than I can count in that series.

How unbelievable that the Pens and Maf went from that to back to back Cups just a few years later.

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost
It's cool and good that Ken Holland broke the Red Wings.

It's like the luxury of Lidstrom, Datsyuk and Zetterberg all taking bargain deals to stay made him forget how to negotiate.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

deoju posted:

It's cool and good that Ken Holland broke the Red Wings.

It's like the luxury of Lidstrom, Datsyuk and Zetterberg all taking bargain deals to stay made him forget how to negotiate.

Hey, maybe all the Red Wings' players have really good agents.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




grack posted:

Hey, maybe all the Red Wings' players have really good agents.

Except AA apparently.

Please trade him to a team I like already.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

fits posted:

sabres havent won a series since 2006

They but they just kind of bled out of their contention cycle, with an increasing number of players walking in UFA. It's not like they made a series of insane decisions overreacting to a playoff loss.

Also I'm totally on board with counting Caps-Habs.

LumpyGumby
Feb 22, 2012

"Here's the world famous hockey player sitting in the penalty box for slashing..."
-Snoopy Brown
42g - 65a - 107pts
106gp - 317PIMS
I'm really happy that Detroit sucks now.

I'm really annoyed that they'll probably make the playoffs again before the Avs do.

Gunjin
Apr 27, 2004

Om nom nom
gently caress Jaroslav Halak.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Drone posted:

Yo I've not followed pro hockey in like ten years, what did I miss. Saw my old mediocre-as-hell hometown-ish team CBJ were in the playoffs last year, that's p. neat.

Assuming you haven't watched a CBJ game since 2007, let me give you the cliff notes:
-Doug MacLean :byewhore:
-gently caress Adam Foote
-2008-09 was a fun year until it wasn't anymore suddenly.
-Scott Howson should have been fired, not Ken Hitchcock.
-HOLY poo poo JEFF CARTER!
-gently caress Jeff Carter.
-gently caress Rick Nash, but not really anymore at this point.
-Howson hired John Davidson, who months later fired Howson.
-James Wisniewski really should have kept the puck in on that power play with 4 minutes to go against Edmonton in 2013 because one point would have eventually sent them to the playoffs.
-CBJ and Detroit moved East.
-Marian Gaborik was a Jacket for a minute.
-CBJ lost a fun series against Pittsburgh 4-2 in 2014.
-They missed the playoffs in 2015 because the whole team was dead half season.
-They forgot how to play hockey the first 10 games of 2015 and now Torts is coach....no, no, don't shake your head and walk away, it's actually worked out to this point.
-16 game win streak last year.
-We understand why most of the league hates Pittsburgh now but Nashville is pretty OK all of a sudden.
-They finally got a top line center but traded him but it worked out because we have the potential for a pretty bitchin' top pair for years to come as a result.
-Bob Is Love.

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

I know y'all are over hearing about the Penguins, but let's never forget the Pens/Flyers series that broke MAF for seasons afterward until he got a sports psychologist.

Can somebody post the third and fourth goals from PIT/CBJ Game 4 in 2014 for me?

CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Sep 4, 2017

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

CBJSprague24 posted:

Can somebody post the third and fourth goals from PIT/CBJ Game 4 in 2014 for me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQGz9UoKOKo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfT2jlkqtLI

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007



god drat those crowd pops

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Gio posted:

2011 ECQF, Philly v. Boston? caused them to trade richards and carter, signed bryz to a bajillion dollars, have been more or less irrelevant since.

Always will be controversial, but i don't think you can peg the Carter / Richards trade as a bad trade.

Bryz's contract was godawful, and really the big nail in the coffin to me was Lecavlier's contract plus trading JVR for Luke loving Schenn.

It's ok, Hextall has since returned, and will lead us to the promised land.


Ginette Reno posted:

I drank until I passed out more times than I can count in that series.

How unbelievable that the Pens and Maf went from that to back to back Cups just a few years later.

A great/crazy series, and I think the change for the Pens shows how good of a coach Sullivan is.

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Heliogabalos
Apr 16, 2017
you can still key in codes for the cheapest of item (for example, celery instead of organic whatever) and no one pays any attention and it saves me a fuckton of money on organic produce

grack posted:

Skille was a replacement-level fourth line forward last year and thus a few steps better than any number of slugs the Canucks put on the ice during the season.

Skille was weirdly good skating up ice along the boards.

I missed #vanekchat. What's a summary of the thoughts here? Personally I don't mind it. Sheltering/seasoning our rookies in the minors some more and letting the elders play until they break, and the rookies turn into call ups later in the season is not the worst idea. Also it seems like Canucks people have suddenly jolted awake after three years and realized how utterly loving clown college our power play has been and have actually made some real changes to improve it? I can only write that in paranoid incredulity atm

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