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Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

S.J. posted:

How are the mantic terrain sets anyways? I don't think I've ever seen one in person. Would they be any good for infinity?

I have very zero experience with Infinity, but the sets are scaled to 28mm. The sets are a mix of square shaped bulkheads that fit together into cube shapes to make terrain levels explicit. The quality is very high and there are a variety of bulkheads, from solid walls, to windows, to doorways. These are supplemented with barricades, light poles, debris piles, canisters, etc that can be scattered across a battlefield or attached to the bulkheads. There are also bridges and platforms and ramps that can be easily connected on or between structures.

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TheChirurgeon
Aug 7, 2002

Remember how good you are
Taco Defender

Atlas Hugged posted:

Deadzone terrain is probably ideal for getting cheap terrain for Necromunda.

Man, I hate the Deadzone terrain. It looks fine, and it's cheap, but the last time I worked with it was when ANAmal ordered one of those massive box deals. The plastic is super-rigid and it was just a chore to work with. Lots of little spurs and shitloads of trim work needed. I wouldn't tell someone not to buy it, but it'd never be my first choice.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
I backed this kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1621774283/battle-systemstm-sci-fi-ii-terrain and its finally about to ship!

Its gonna be absolutely perfect for necromunda.

They WILL be selling additional kits from their website after they ship the kickstarter orders, if you're interested. This stuff looks amazing and you get tons of it for a fair price, and its fully modular so you can re-build infinite configurations.

http://www.battlesystems.co.uk/

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Zaphod42 posted:

I backed this kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1621774283/battle-systemstm-sci-fi-ii-terrain and its finally about to ship!

Its gonna be absolutely perfect for necromunda.

They WILL be selling additional kits from their website after they ship the kickstarter orders, if you're interested. This stuff looks amazing and you get tons of it for a fair price, and its fully modular so you can re-build infinite configurations.

http://www.battlesystems.co.uk/



These look awesome.

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

Zaphod42 posted:

I backed this kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1621774283/battle-systemstm-sci-fi-ii-terrain and its finally about to ship!

Its gonna be absolutely perfect for necromunda.

They WILL be selling additional kits from their website after they ship the kickstarter orders, if you're interested. This stuff looks amazing and you get tons of it for a fair price, and its fully modular so you can re-build infinite configurations.

http://www.battlesystems.co.uk/



Hot drat, going to get some of this to shame my MDF terrain and I'll be good for any sort of game I am actually going to play.

Bonus, I could use this to display my gangs, which is actually way more likely to be a thing that happens over playing with them.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

Zaphod42 posted:

I backed this kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1621774283/battle-systemstm-sci-fi-ii-terrain and its finally about to ship!

Its gonna be absolutely perfect for necromunda.

They WILL be selling additional kits from their website after they ship the kickstarter orders, if you're interested. This stuff looks amazing and you get tons of it for a fair price, and its fully modular so you can re-build infinite configurations.

http://www.battlesystems.co.uk/



Not only does that look awesome, but they also sell a Stargate.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
Edit: It's card.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
The citadel industrial terrain is extremely good and well worth the money.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

Hams Community posted:

"As you can see, the new Necromunda stays true to the style of the original game – right down to the hairstyles! This particular ganger is holding a needle rifle, just one of the additional weapon options you’ll be able to arm your gang with.

While the kits in Necromunda: Underhive are packed with variety, there’s even more on the way in the form of upgrade kits."

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Does this mean cosmetic upgrades? Because I'm 100% ok with splurging on bigger Mohawks.

I just got my Prometheus Forge KS terrain and it looks like a fairly faithful MDF interpretation of the original 90s Necro stuff.

I've also stated saving interesting plastic food containers from my recycling bin. Yogurt containers especially paint up into industrial-looking storage tanks.

I also picked up some knockoff Waffle blocks (called Michley blocks) to form the basis of some under-construction buildings, along with the Manic Deadzone stuff. Terrain isn't the problem that it was back then!

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

moths posted:

Does this mean cosmetic upgrades? Because I'm 100% ok with splurging on bigger Mohawks.

I just got my Prometheus Forge KS terrain and it looks like a fairly faithful MDF interpretation of the original 90s Necro stuff.

I've also stated saving interesting plastic food containers from my recycling bin. Yogurt containers especially paint up into industrial-looking storage tanks.

I also picked up some knockoff Waffle blocks (called Michley blocks) to form the basis of some under-construction buildings, along with the Manic Deadzone stuff. Terrain isn't the problem that it was back then!

You know, GW may actually have taken this into consideration. Everyone who wants to play 3D Necromunda can probably manage to play it without them including 3D terrain in the starter box.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Maybe, but I think also the added cost of bundling the industrial terrain would have pushed the core game outside of the desired price range.

If this comes in as a $60 small box like Lost Patrol or Gangs of Commorough they will seriously make all the money.

Squibsy
Dec 3, 2005

Not suited, just booted.
College Slice

moths posted:

If this comes in as a $60 small box like Lost Patrol or Gangs of Commorough they will seriously make all the money.

This won't happen. Both of those boxes included old, poorly selling kits. Necromunda has two brand-new modern sprites in it and they will charge accordingly.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



I figured it's going to be in the hundred dollar blood bowl model, but those tiles look cut to fit in the square box or likely the $85 AoS /40k Get Started small box footprint.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



S.J. posted:

How are the mantic terrain sets anyways? I don't think I've ever seen one in person. Would they be any good for infinity?

Amazing. Building them is pretty fun, and while not super fancy they work really well for prefab future stuff. The damage stuff looks good because you can do slightly ruined but not totally demolished stuff very easily.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
Think Burning of Prospero, imo.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003
I saw 110 new posts in the SG thread and got all excited, only to come in and find that 80% of it was bitching about GW not giving away its rules and other recycled complaints about GW. Goddamnit people! :argh:

moths posted:

Does this mean cosmetic upgrades? Because I'm 100% ok with splurging on bigger Mohawks.
I think so, as well as probably weapons and fiddly bits, like grenades. I'm pretty sure GW is moving to a miniature format that offers less variety because it allows them to maximize their sprues and is cheaper for them in the long run.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

berzerkmonkey posted:

I saw 110 new posts in the SG thread and got all excited, only to come in and find that 80% of it was bitching about GW not giving away its rules and other recycled complaints about GW. Goddamnit people! :argh:

I think so, as well as probably weapons and fiddly bits, like grenades. I'm pretty sure GW is moving to a miniature format that offers less variety because it allows them to maximize their sprues and is cheaper for them in the long run.

Sorry, we momentarily became the Death Thread, but we got better.

Dr. Gargunza
May 19, 2011

He damned me for a eunuch,
and my mother for a whore.



Fun Shoe

Ashcans posted:

I backed a kickstarter for some laser-cut MDF industrial terrain, and I think that between that and some other select pieces I am going to be in decent shape for most games.

:unsmith: :respek: :unsmith: I just got my shipping notification for my own copy of this kit giant pile of MDF. (Have you seen their 12-oz can adapter kits? They seem to have expanded the line somewhat.)

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Dr. Gargunza posted:

:unsmith: :respek: :unsmith: I just got my shipping notification for my own copy of this kit giant pile of MDF. (Have you seen their 12-oz can adapter kits? They seem to have expanded the line somewhat.)

I have two each of the towers and the tanks with the ladders on em. Made out of beer cans and laser cut wood, but painted it looks pretty solid.

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

Oh neat. I might grab some of that stuff once I get my kit and can work out how much more I might need.

Squibsy
Dec 3, 2005

Not suited, just booted.
College Slice
Any Blood Bowl players in London - My club's League organisers are arranging a one-day team Deathbowl tournament on 30th September. It's in Covent Garden at the London Wargaming Guild, £8 tickets, it's either bring a 4-coach team or come alone and join one of the other teams.

For those who've never played it, Deathbowl is a few hours of sheer insanity. Four Blood Bowl teams take to a special pitch at the same time and compete for two balls simultaneously.

It's as chaotic as it sounds and despite having the word tournament, it's intended to be a laugh rather than srs bizness.

If you think you'd like to come along, reply here or PM me and I'll hook you up with the organisers.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



I am running a Blood Bowl league for some friends towards the end of the month now that Legendary Edition is out. It looks like I will have 8 players or so and I was wondering how I should structure it. I could just go with one of the formats Blood Bowl 2 does itself, but I don't know if I care for those in a league situation.

I was thinking of doing 2 divisions of 4 teams with each team playing each division member twice, and two games against teams from the other division. Then having the top two and the bottom two (one from each division) play a final match for an overall winner and loser.

One game a week seems pretty manageable. Thoughts?

GoodBee
Apr 8, 2004


I'd do a round robin with 8 instead of playing opponents twice. Especially if you've got a good diversity of teams. It doesn't matter as much if everyone is playing the same 4 teams.

Edit: I have more fun playing against a bunch of different opponents/teams than the same thing a whole bunch.

hexa
Dec 10, 2004

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom

ineptmule posted:

Any Blood Bowl players in London - My club's League organisers are arranging a one-day team Deathbowl tournament on 30th September. It's in Covent Garden at the London Wargaming Guild, £8 tickets, it's either bring a 4-coach team or come alone and join one of the other teams.

For those who've never played it, Deathbowl is a few hours of sheer insanity. Four Blood Bowl teams take to a special pitch at the same time and compete for two balls simultaneously.

It's as chaotic as it sounds and despite having the word tournament, it's intended to be a laugh rather than srs bizness.

If you think you'd like to come along, reply here or PM me and I'll hook you up with the organisers.

I've copypasted that onto my local league's page, and will be at the club tonight. I'm pretty sure I can find 3 other people. Do we just need a standard TV1000 team each?

GoodBee posted:

I'd do a round robin with 8 instead of playing opponents twice. Especially if you've got a good diversity of teams. It doesn't matter as much if everyone is playing the same 4 teams.

Edit: I have more fun playing against a bunch of different opponents/teams than the same thing a whole bunch.

More variety is better, and it stops people from just fouling hard in their first match against an Elf opponent to soften them up for the rematch. At least - that's how I'd play in a league of 4 people :v:

Squibsy
Dec 3, 2005

Not suited, just booted.
College Slice

glitchkrieg posted:

I've copypasted that onto my local league's page, and will be at the club tonight. I'm pretty sure I can find 3 other people. Do we just need a standard TV1000 team each?

Replied to your PM but for the benefit of any other interested folk - it's a TV 1100 team setup with a tier-based skills package on top of that.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009
Deathbowl sounds amazing and I'm super jealous.

Prefect Six
Mar 27, 2009

Ashcans posted:

I backed a kickstarter for some laser-cut MDF industrial terrain, and I think that between that and some other select pieces I am going to be in decent shape for most games.

I almost backed that one, but ended up going with the Battle Systems Sci-Fi II set. The laser cut stuff looks like it will allow for more vertical terrain.

e: looks like I should have finished reading the thread before posting.

Dr. Gargunza
May 19, 2011

He damned me for a eunuch,
and my mother for a whore.



Fun Shoe

Zaphod42 posted:

I have two each of the towers and the tanks with the ladders on em. Made out of beer cans and laser cut wood, but painted it looks pretty solid.

You know how there's a couple of weird extra bits on the tower kits, look a bit like bent eyeglasses? Well, they're not mentioned in the instructions, but if you look at the pics on the website, apparently they're for attaching drinking-straw pipes to the side of the can. The pipes also serve as a brace for the side of the platform opposite from the stairs. ...Kind of wish I'd looked more carefully before just going "gently caress it" and gluing those bits to the underside of the platform. :doh:
Other than my mistake, I'm really digging these kits.

Squibsy
Dec 3, 2005

Not suited, just booted.
College Slice

Shadin posted:

Deathbowl sounds amazing and I'm super jealous.

Is good. Guessing you're too far away to come to London at the end of the month?

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

ineptmule posted:

Is good. Guessing you're too far away to come to London at the end of the month?

Unfortunately, unless you mean London, MN. But if that were the case I'd beg you to do it in the Twin Cities instead because I bet London, MN is a real shithole.

Drowning Rabbit
Oct 28, 2003

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
I have been fascinated by Blood Bowl for years, first attempting it on the PSP. I later bought the first game on Steam, but I can't seem to find a good tutorial. It always seemed like I just try and run the ball, but got hosed every time. Is there a good primer outside of just loading up the PDF and reading up on every rule?

Squibsy
Dec 3, 2005

Not suited, just booted.
College Slice
BBTactics.com has some very good articles and specific guides for each team and their players. It's probably the step beyond what you need however.

Which teams did you try? Certain teams are very much more suited to beginners. Humans and Orcs are the ones included in the boxed game for a reason, with both having strong features.

Orcs are the simpler of the two, with a playstyle that prefers grabbing and holding the ball while grinding up the pitch. If you try much fancy stuff like passing with them you're gonna have a bad time. Humans can have a go at all of the play styles depending on their opponents, but they aren't too well specialised from the outset for any of them.

Where a D6 roll is required for an action, the game gives you a probability of success. A general rule of thumb is to try to do you risk free and low-risk actions first in your turn so that if you fail on a trickier action you don't get a turnover before you have a chance for the rest of your team to do something.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
The rules aren't that bad, the hard part is learning the risk management. The rare fringe-case interactions don't come up that often unless someone is playing bizarro mutant chaos or vampires. Orcs are a traditionally good option.

As ever, playing with people who know what they're doing and asking questions is generally the best way. There's quite a lot of video out there of games talked over by people of varying quality. There's also been a few lets plays done on the forums, cKnoor, GnuOrder and I think a tournament style one (or was that fumbbl?) that are probably still hosted somewhere.

Drowning Rabbit
Oct 28, 2003

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

ineptmule posted:

BBTactics.com has some very good articles and specific guides for each team and their players. It's probably the step beyond what you need however.

Which teams did you try? Certain teams are very much more suited to beginners. Humans and Orcs are the ones included in the boxed game for a reason, with both having strong features.

Orcs are the simpler of the two, with a playstyle that prefers grabbing and holding the ball while grinding up the pitch. If you try much fancy stuff like passing with them you're gonna have a bad time. Humans can have a go at all of the play styles depending on their opponents, but they aren't too well specialised from the outset for any of them.

Where a D6 roll is required for an action, the game gives you a probability of success. A general rule of thumb is to try to do you risk free and low-risk actions first in your turn so that if you fail on a trickier action you don't get a turnover before you have a chance for the rest of your team to do something.

I was trying humans, and just got facerolled by the AI. I literally just re-installed and did the tutorial again for the "Legendary" Edition of the first release on Steam. I think I'll try it again as the Orks just due to the tanky nature of them. It's kind of how I felt I wanted to play the game anyway.

goatface posted:

The rules aren't that bad, the hard part is learning the risk management. The rare fringe-case interactions don't come up that often unless someone is playing bizarro mutant chaos or vampires. Orcs are a traditionally good option.

As ever, playing with people who know what they're doing and asking questions is generally the best way. There's quite a lot of video out there of games talked over by people of varying quality. There's also been a few lets plays done on the forums, cKnoor, GnuOrder and I think a tournament style one (or was that fumbbl?) that are probably still hosted somewhere.

I think watching a well commented let's play would actually be very helpful, I'll see if I can find any of these.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003
Remember to stay out of tackle zones as much as possible, and to use your team members to screen your ball carrier.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Late to terrain chat, but I've been making these from yogurt and dollar-store hair curlers:



It's super cheap and looks suitably industrial.

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

drat, those look pretty great.

How do you get the yogurt to hold a shape though? :v:

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
Looks great!

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moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Thanks! (And whoops, yogurt containers.)

I also picked up some sectional foam mats like you'd use in a garage or exercise area - the kind that fit together like puzzle pieces. They were about $4 each and four of them cover a 3'x3' area. They're diamond grip pattern on the top, but flipped over they have a great concrete texture. I'll get some photos once I'm done painting them.

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