Mega64 posted:

Ventana posted:

Hey Bro that's a sweet av, what game is that from

Barudak posted:

Nobody has ever actually played FFVII, theyve only learned the plot from the spinoff titles and from fanfiction stories

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Kitase, whose résumé is far too long to list in one paragraph but includes director credits on Final Fantasy VI, Chrono Trigger, and Final Fantasy VII, was in Seattle last week for PAX West to talk about his most recent game, Mobius Final Fantasy. Of course, as I told him, I couldn’t resist the urge to ask about his older work, too.

I told Kitase I wanted to ask about some popular Final Fantasy fan theories. Laughing, Kitase addressed each one, debunking (and, once, quasi-confirming) the wild hypotheses that fans have dreamed up over the years.

On the theory that Final Fantasy VI’s costumed Gogo is really Daryl, Setzer’s old friend:

“That’s probably not true,” Kitase said, speaking through a translator. “I don’t think there’s any background setting like that. If that’s true, then because Daryl had that beautiful ending, if [she] ended up being Gogo, that would just destroy all that.”

So, I asked, did Gogo have a secret identity? Was he supposed to be General Leo or perhaps Adlai Stevenson?

No, Kitase said. Final Fantasy VI’s two optional characters, Gogo and Umaro, “actually did not carry any background story. They were just there for you to select if you want them to be in battle.”

On the theory that Final Fantasy VIII’s Squall dies at the end of Disc 1 when he’s stabbed by Edea’s ice spear and that the rest of the game is his dream:

“No, that is not true,” Kitase said, laughing. “I think he was actually stabbed around the shoulder area, so he was not dead. But that is a very interesting idea, so if we ever do make a remake of Final Fantasy VIII, I might go along with that story in mind.”

On the theory that Final Fantasy VIII’s Rinoa is really Ultimecia:

“No, that is not true,” Kitase said. “I don’t think I’ll incorporate that even if we do remake the game. But that being said, both Rinoa and Ultimecia are witches, so in that sense they are similar, but they’re not the same person.”

On the theory that Final Fantasy VII’s Knights of the Round are really the Cetra that defeated Jenova a thousand years before the events of the game:

“Everyone’s thinking too deeply, reading between the lines too much,” laughed Kitase. “That makes it difficult because if you think about it that way, we might have to make it that way. That’s definitely not true.”

Kitase added that artist Tetsuya Nomura, best known as the director of Kingdom Hearts, created all of the summons in Final Fantasy VII. “They don’t have any background story attached to them,” Kitase said.

On the theory that in Final Fantasy VII you’d originally be able to bring Aeris back to life, but that was cut from the game:

“We did hear that there were talks amongst fans that if you use a bug in the game you can revive Aeris and she will be with you until the end of the game,” Kitase said. “It might be good in a fantastical story that you can revive the characters, but with FFVII, we wanted to really take another look at that, look at human life, and [make people] realize they don’t come back.”

When Kitase and his team first started development on Final Fantasy VII, he added, they saw some other company give a survey to little children that asked if they thought people come back to life after they die. “A lot of the kids actually said yes to that question,” Kitase said. “There are all these fantasy stories where, [for example], the princess would come back from death with the kiss of her prince. For children, it was normal for them that people would come back to life. And we wanted to question that idea and thought. So we wanted to depict that there is weight to life, and just put weight on the loss as well to life, and that’s where we all started with Final Fantasy VII. That was our core concept.”

And finally, on the theory that Final Fantasy X-2's Shinra character went on to start Shinra in Final Fantasy VII, meaning that both universes are connected:

“I won’t completely come out and say that it is the same world,” said Kitase. “However, Shinra in FFX-2 was created by [Kazushige] Nojima, the scenario writer, and when he thought him up, he thought it might be good if people would imagine that after a few years after the story of Final Fantasy X-2, that person Shinra will grow up and start the Shinra company. So that is something that he did hint in there. That being said, I’m not gonna say that it’s the same.”

One out of six ain’t bad!

Tae posted:

Death of the author

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When Kitase and his team first started development on Final Fantasy VII, he added, they saw some other company give a survey to little children that asked if they thought people come back to life after they die. “A lot of the kids actually said yes to that question,” Kitase said. “There are all these fantasy stories where, [for example], the princess would come back from death with the kiss of her prince. For children, it was normal for them that people would come back to life. And we wanted to question that idea and thought. So we wanted to depict that there is weight to life, and just put weight on the loss as well to life, and that’s where we all started with Final Fantasy VII. That was our core concept.”

Calaveron posted:

What the gently caress Ultimecia being Rinoa is like the most obvious reading of the plot of ff8 how is it not true

Calaveron posted:

What the gently caress Ultimecia being Rinoa is like the most obvious reading of the plot of ff8 how is it not true

NikkolasKing posted:

Even still, R=U is the only way Ultimecia has any loving character and it also makes Rinoa more interesting too so I am all for this theory.

Ventana posted:

More FFs need to be made that intentionally ruin the ideas of children. A FF game where you learn Santa isn't real and instead a national holiday is a secret mass economic brainwashing tool, etc.

NikkolasKing posted:

Because for all we loving know Ultimecia could live a million years in the future because the game goes out of its way just to repeatedly say she's from the nebulous "future," which of course encompasses everything rfom one second from now until the end of time.

seiferguy posted:

Of all the fan theories to ask, I would have asked him if Gilgamesh is the same character in every FF game.

seiferguy posted:

Of all the fan theories to ask, I would have asked him if Gilgamesh is the same character in every FF game.

Tin Can Hit Man posted:

A FF where only a very small percentage of which are actually beatable, the rest only get varying degrees into the game when they can go no further.

You're not special children. None of you are. Some of you just get lucky by being at the right place and the right time.

Calaveron posted:

He explicitly is

Raxivace posted:

Probably not the same as the Gilgamesh in FF15 though.

seiferguy posted:

Of all the fan theories to ask, I would have asked him if Gilgamesh is the same character in every FF game.

Tired Moritz posted:

we started this game wanting to tell children that people die

Ventana posted:

More FFs need to be made that intentionally ruin the ideas of children. A FF game where you learn Santa isn't real and instead a national holiday is a secret mass economic brainwashing tool, etc.

Countblanc posted:

Calaveron posted:

Never got far enough to meet ffxv Greg so what's that guy's deal

Help Im Alive posted:

I know it's a XIV thing or whatever but i do not like greg as a name for cool interdimensional swordsman Gilgamesh

Help Im Alive posted:

I know it's a XIV thing or whatever but i do not like greg as a name for cool interdimensional swordsman Gilgamesh

Saint Freak posted:

I'm not big on 8 but I would buy a remake where Squall gets loving murked in a heartbeat.

Tin Can Hit Man posted:

Nobody likes you anyway!

Zaphod42 posted:

Like the crazy game of thrones fight club fan theories, it was always obvious to me that "squall is dead" wasn't the intended narrative, but I do admire the fans for trying to find somehow to twist that broken narrative into something functional.

Zaphod42 posted:

The only thing I can remember about him is his ridiculous pizza-cutter sword and extremely over-designed clothing