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Oh you just turned your phone back on after the weekend too?
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Sep 5, 2017 16:34
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I wrote a FileMaker db around 2001 to handle asset tracking and tickets, and I just update it for each new job. At the Tony job I wasn't allowed to have FM so I had to recreate it in Access 2010 and holy poo poo that was no fun at all.
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Sep 5, 2017 16:39
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uPen posted:Oh you just turned your phone back on after the weekend too? Bad page snipe, was reacting to asset management in SharePoint. Jesus. I'm still ill from reading those posts.
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Sep 5, 2017 16:57
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milk milk lemonade posted:Bad page snipe, was reacting to asset management in SharePoint. Jesus. I'm still ill from reading those posts. Now you know how we feel reading yours! 
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Sep 5, 2017 17:07
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Lol, Lightower fiber is hosed from Boston to DC today.
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Sep 5, 2017 17:08
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Dick Trauma posted:I wrote a FileMaker db around 2001 to handle asset tracking and tickets, and I just update it for each new job. At the Tony job I wasn't allowed to have FM so I had to recreate it in Access 2010 and holy poo poo that was no fun at all. You should have flat out said no to making anything on access. Bad Dick, bad!
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Sep 5, 2017 18:29
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No offense to the program itself but man the name "FileMaker" has always sounded like some sort of fake software that a shady site convinces your mom or boss to install and what it actually does is run ads, you know? "But I needed to make my files and the nice website told me to get FileMaker!" they'd say.
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Sep 5, 2017 18:39
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It's as terrible as you'd expect it to be. Such a monstrous piece of poo poo
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Sep 5, 2017 18:40
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fishmech posted:No offense to the program itself but man the name "FileMaker" has always sounded like some sort of fake software that a shady site convinces your mom or boss to install and what it actually does is run ads, you know? "But I needed to make my files and the nice website told me to get FileMaker!" they'd say. This is exactly what I thought it was the first time I saw it.
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Sep 5, 2017 19:36
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milk milk lemonade posted:It's as terrible as you'd expect it to be. Such a monstrous piece of poo poo Another shill poster in the pocket of Big Access. 
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Sep 5, 2017 20:14
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I love the Cisco forum answers. Generally I can find at least a hint at what I'm looking for, but most of the time the asked question is in very broken English and has been unresolved for 8 years.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:22
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quote:When we purchased Respondus Lockdown Browser, supposedly they gave us some free licenses for Respondus monitor (Allows students to write at home as it monitors them through a webcam while they write). 
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Sep 5, 2017 20:31
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Boogalo posted:We use...lists and workflows in sharepoint  what up fellow traveller in hell
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Sep 5, 2017 20:38
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Sep 5, 2017 20:49
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Bigass Moth posted:I love the Cisco forum answers. Generally I can find at least a hint at what I'm looking for, but most of the time the asked question is in very broken English and has been unresolved for 8 years. This, but with MS support forums, and there's one reply and it's an MVP posting instructions on how to runs sfc /scannow in equally broken English.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:59
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Yeah there's no way that could go wrong. Nope.
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Sep 5, 2017 21:12
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ChubbyThePhat posted:Uh.... ConfusedUs posted:Yeah there's no way that could go wrong. Nope. Glad to know it's not just me and I'm not over-reacting.
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Sep 5, 2017 21:19
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Avenging_Mikon posted:Glad to know it's not just me and I'm not over-reacting. Nah that's a crazy thing to do. The chance of catching a student in some stage of undress are unacceptably high. Are any of these students under 18? If yes, this could easily veer into child porn territory on top of that. Even accidental or innocent usage of this "monitoring" software can go down that road. Can't imagine what will happen if you get someone less than scrupulous behind the wheel.
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Sep 5, 2017 21:24
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It's not like it's recording all the time. The student would turn it on when they are ready to begin taking the exam and launch the application, and they know they are being watched by a remote proctor. I don't remember what thread they post in, but there's some poster on here that does that proctoring.
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Sep 5, 2017 21:27
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I guess as an umbrella overview, it's really not that much different than being on a video call with somebody. This sounds less scary. However, without knowing anything about the software or how it functions I could be very wrong about this assumption.
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Sep 5, 2017 21:32
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Respondus Lockdown Browser basically takes over your computer and, as its name implies, makes it so that you can't open up another browser tab to Google the answer. It's typically used in testing centers at universities. That obviously has less of an impact when used on a home computer since the user could just fire up another device, so I guess that's where this webcam stuff comes in. It's a bit creepy but aren't there some IT certification exams you can take in the same manner? It's just supporting remote exam taking, the user ultimately has control over it.
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Sep 5, 2017 21:35
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Hargrimm posted:It's not like it's recording all the time. The student would turn it on when they are ready to begin taking the exam and launch the application, and they know they are being watched by a remote proctor. I don't remember what thread they post in, but there's some poster on here that does that proctoring. You are also assuming that the potential observers are ALWAYS going to play by the rules. You and I know that doesn't always happen.
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Sep 5, 2017 21:38
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Y'all are weird. I just looked it up, it's not even monitored by a live proctor. Students set up the camera, take the test with the camera on them, and turn it off when they're done. The recording gets submitted along with the test and the software flags potential "suspicious behavior" for human review. If you want to allow students to take exams remotely their has to be some sort of check.
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Sep 5, 2017 21:42
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:Y'all are weird. I just looked it up, it's not even monitored by a live proctor. Students set up the camera, take the test with the camera on them, and turn it off when they're done. The recording gets submitted along with the test and the software flags potential "suspicious behavior" for human review. Oh, so now I have to install some wack rear end software I know nothing about on my PC if I want to take an internet course? And it is some sort of super AI computer vision program?
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Sep 5, 2017 21:45
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:Respondus Lockdown Browser basically takes over your computer and, as its name implies, makes it so that you can't open up another browser tab to Google the answer. It's typically used in testing centers at universities. This is exactly what I had in mind with my last post. Microsoft lets you do remote proctored certification exams now from certain locations and it functions more or less like a remote support session with a webcam. Much less scary than the assumption that this could be remotely enabled and watched by a dude. Sometimes I post faster than I think :>
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Sep 5, 2017 21:47
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:Y'all are weird. I just looked it up, it's not even monitored by a live proctor. Students set up the camera, take the test with the camera on them, and turn it off when they're done. The recording gets submitted along with the test and the software flags potential "suspicious behavior" for human review. Oh awesome, I actually feel a lot better now. I also talked with one of our security people and he's also "well, we gotta do something for remote students. Let me look in to it and see what the other colleges in the area use." I'm now mostly shocked we didn't have something in place already. Thanks! Hargrimm posted:It's not like it's recording all the time. The student would turn it on when they are ready to begin taking the exam and launch the application, and they know they are being watched by a remote proctor. I don't remember what thread they post in, but there's some poster on here that does that proctoring.
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Sep 5, 2017 21:47
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Avenging_Mikon posted:I'd love to hear from that person and what software they use for it. It's this dude from the Venting About Students thread; guess I didn't remember immediately because he hasn't posted in over a year. Some fun anecdotes in there involving dicks and death though.
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Sep 5, 2017 22:03
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Samizdata posted:Oh, so now I have to install some wack rear end software I know nothing about on my PC if I want to take an internet course? And it is some sort of super AI computer vision program? I don't think you need Skynet to power software that notices when you fiddle with something in your phone for a while when that's literally its only job. I also wouldn't be surprised if it runs out of a browser for that matter, LMSs have a lot of integrations with them already.
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Sep 5, 2017 22:03
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:Y'all are weird. I just looked it up, it's not even monitored by a live proctor. Students set up the camera, take the test with the camera on them, and turn it off when they're done. The recording gets submitted along with the test and the software flags potential "suspicious behavior" for human review. And we all know that there's zero chance that some kid with the hots for her teacher will decide to take the test in her underwear, or that some bubblehead will try to improve her grade by taking it topless.  The fact that it is not monitored live and the test/session terminated at the first sign of inappropriate behavior actually makes it worse.
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Sep 5, 2017 22:15
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PremiumSupport posted:And we all know that there's zero chance that some kid with the hots for her teacher will decide to take the test in her underwear, or that some bubblehead will try to improve her grade by taking it topless. You know that had the potential to happen before this software existed right? And isn't limited to women for that matter? It's widely-used software that's been accepted in academia. It's pretty straight-forward. But whatever, carry on with your weird hang-ups about topless coeds or whatever you inherently associate with webcams. I honestly don't give a gently caress about the software, people were just reacting to it without reading about it. 
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Sep 5, 2017 22:28
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:You know that had the potential to happen before this software existed right? And isn't limited to women for that matter? The assumption here being that it is only being used in post secondary education. That was not clear in the original post.
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Sep 5, 2017 22:52
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:Respondus Lockdown Browser basically takes over your computer and, as its name implies, makes it so that you can't open up another browser tab to Google the answer. It's typically used in testing centers at universities. Solution: take all tests completely naked.
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Sep 5, 2017 23:07
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Solution: take all tests completely naked. Do you not?
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Sep 5, 2017 23:30
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Experiment with Context dependent memory and sexual arrousal. Basically, masturbate while studying, and while taking your test. Can't lose.
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Sep 5, 2017 23:51
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The Fool posted:Experiment with Context dependent memory and sexual arrousal. *insert joke about needing to study for more than 5 minutes at a time*
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Sep 6, 2017 01:19
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:You know that had the potential to happen before this software existed right? And isn't limited to women for that matter? It's one of those things where it probably immediately recalls stories like this, and the difference between "turn it on/off when you're doing your test" and "we own the laptop so we're just gonna flip that poo poo on whenever we like".
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Sep 6, 2017 01:24
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:It's one of those things where it probably immediately recalls stories like this, and the difference between "turn it on/off when you're doing your test" and "we own the laptop so we're just gonna flip that poo poo on whenever we like". That's exactly what I think of when I see these things, along with the outcome that means that there's not a ton of incentive like "I don't want to go to jail for Grooming" to prevent this.
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:
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