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Helpimscared posted:Why should I try this MMO? Why would I want to play it over going back to WoW? Catgirl dress up.
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Rastan Beeza posted:I never played WoW, but I remember reading a few things about corruption being a reoccuring thing, Ie Deathwing and Nightmare Ysera, I assume it happens often. And how does WoW's storyline(s) compare to FFXIV's? WoW's story is largely based around zone-specific stories, some of which are pretty good (Spires of Arak, Suramar), some of which are really bad, and most of which are kinda in the middle. The main story is pretty much universally garbage throughout, except maybe in the parts of MoP that focused on Pandaria specific stuff like the Thunder King (which is ironic, considering the initial reaction to the expansion). Zinkraptor fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Sep 6, 2017 |
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Sep 6, 2017 03:27
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Bolow posted:You even see other groups of adventurers bitching about lovely tanks and bad heals. This gets dark at one point too (hard Tam Tara). It's pretty great.
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Sep 6, 2017 03:27
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funkymonks posted:Catgirl dress up.  It's incredible how the equivalent of low tier wow heroic dungeon loot, and an armor set I got for free for just finish my class quest looks better than like 99% of the armor sets in WoW 
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Sep 6, 2017 03:29
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I mean, they are just so goddamn adorable. 
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Sep 6, 2017 03:31
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FFXIV armor being actual models instead of painted-on textures goes a long way. Blizzard's improved a lot over the years but it's hard to ignore that the game's based on an engine from 2004. This game also has a lot of other little touches that I'm amazed other MMOs don't bother with, like helmets/hats actually working properly with longer hair.
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Sep 6, 2017 03:32
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Bolow posted:
Everything made before Yoshida took over (thus the majority of the 2-49 gear and a bit of the 50 gear) looks downright horrendous though
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Sep 6, 2017 03:32
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cheetah7071 posted:Everything made before Yoshida took over (thus the majority of the 2-49 gear and a bit of the 50 gear) looks downright horrendous though
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Sep 6, 2017 03:34
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To elaborate on thaumaturge/black mage: you alternate between astral phase, where you use extremely high damage spells that burn through your mana, and umbral phase, where your spells are low-damage but you regenerate all your mana in like 6 seconds. Being a good black mage relies on knowing the timings of fights because you can't cast while moving, though you do get some abilities to make spells instant-cast or to move quickly. It has really flashy spell effects and has some of the most powerful abilities in the game (Fire 4, Flare, Foul  ). It's also the current king of AoE DPS.Downsides: The leveling experience is rough until you get Fire 3/Blizzard 3 in the mid 30s, which smoothes out your rotation a lot. If you like being able to move around, you're not going to like it at all. Also if you're familiar with other FF games/JRPGs in general where elemental resistances are a thing... ignore that. You can cast fire spells on a fire elemental just fine. vOv fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Sep 6, 2017 |
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Sep 6, 2017 03:36
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Helpimscared posted:Why should I try this MMO? Why would I want to play it over going back to WoW? 1) Endgame experience is less grindy, but there's still plenty to do (especially if you go back and do old raids - lots of mechanically and aesthetically interesting components). 2) Leveling experience is fun for an MMO. Easy at first, ramps up around 35. Lots of options (quests, dungeons, randomized dungeons, zone events, weekly objectives, etc.). 3) You can level every class (including crafters and gatherers) on one character. 4) More modern graphics engine. Good lighting and superior animations. Fewer races, but greater customization and arguably better outfits. 5) A far more coherent story with clear, consistent plot progression and decent sidequests (mostly starting in Heavensward/Hildebrand/etc.). Like the gameplay it starts out basic but ramps up around 35. Less about EPIC and CORRUPTION, more about deep blue hero poo poo with moments of pathos. It's a Final Fantasy story about as much as any of the single player games in the series. 6) Solid system design with regular QoL improvements. They've come a long way and continue to do so. 7) A 2.5s base GCD means combat's more about timing and choosing the correct ability rather than button mashing. 8) Final Fantasy nostalgia everywhere, if you're into that. More on the way (next major patch will have Ivalice/FFTactics stuff). 9) Better writing. More jokes. English localization is ace. 10) Great soundtrack! 11) Goon presence is generally helpful & positive. Not sure how it is in WoW. Community tends to be more welcoming of newer players, really. 12) Don't need addons. Base UI is powerful and customizable. 13) Full gamepad support. Can switch between KB/M and gamepad with a few buttons. The project lead plays on a gamepad, so it gets enough attention. 14) Downtime is less frequent. Sometimes it's out for an entire day, but that's usually only for expansion launches or major patches. 15) Housing! Can get expensive and availability is limited, but if nothing else you can use the goon guild houses. 16) Holiday events are sensible and well documented. Far fewer bugs with them than in WoW. Some cross promotional stuff with other SquareEnix games, too. 17) Far fewer bugs in general. It's rare to see a gamestopper. Overall I'd say it definitely takes inspiration from other MMOs (project lead is a longtime MMO player), but it's carved out its own niche. It's got some things to improve (a better glamour/transmog system would help with inventory management a lot, and while the PvP's gotten better, it's not an area of focus if that's important to you), but the dev team's transparent. They have regular check-ins and livestreams every couple months. I liked Legion well enough but was done with it in a month. Conversely, outside of occasional breaks, I've played FFXIV weekly for 4 years. It has a specific charm and consistency that WoW often lacks. Expansions feel like continuations of the previous story, rather than opportunities to change literally everything.
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Sep 6, 2017 03:42
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I'd say the three things that WoW has over FFXIV are:
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Sep 6, 2017 03:56
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So my Castrum queue finally popped, and basically everything was cleared by the time I finished each cutscene so I spent almost the entire time catching up to the group
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Sep 6, 2017 04:05
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Going back a few pages, I have to agree that the playerbase is very chill and forgiving, the worst I get is people being impatient in a passive aggresive way occasionally. I tanked that lv35 ruins and went in a circle confused for a minute and accidently activated an extra mob and the most I got for loving up was a "gonna need to do an extra mob now," and I still got a player recommendation. In fact, I saw a player about to die fighting some quest monsters and helped him out, except he got ganked by a surprise FATE popping up so I revived him. And met up again when we were doing the same sidequest and helped each other out killing the other's monsters. Later on Behemoth popped up and my FC leader invited me to party despite being only 43, and that player I revved still happened to be there and joined in our party and I got behemoth horns despite bonking it with my fists twice and running away (and dying in the first half when some guy pulled him and killed like a quarter of everyone there in the first fate). Afterwards he ended up befriending me and my FC leader gave me a free transport to Revanent's Toll to use the horns. Also got another friend there who attended the wedding I went to the day before and said I could ask them to party and hoped I was having a good time playing the game. So in my experience everyone is pretty great in Brynhildr. 
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Sep 6, 2017 04:10
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Bolow posted:So my Castrum queue finally popped, and basically everything was cleared by the time I finished each cutscene so I spent almost the entire time catching up to the group  ONLY RUN CASTRUM MERIDIANUM AND PRATORIUM WITH GOONS
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Sep 6, 2017 04:11
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I've been secretly hoping that one of their one dungeon patch features will be a wholesale ripoff of mythic+ that just reuses old content, running old ARR dungeons scaled up to 70 with difficulty modifiers.Bolow posted:So my Castrum queue finally popped, and basically everything was cleared by the time I finished each cutscene so I spent almost the entire time catching up to the group
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Sep 6, 2017 04:12
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I really hope we don't get Mythic+, or if it happens that it's a lot less elitist and grindy. It was a major reason I stopped playing after Legion launch and never returned.
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Sep 6, 2017 04:13
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homeless snail posted:I've been secretly hoping that one of their one dungeon patch features will be a wholesale ripoff of mythic+ that just reuses old content, running old ARR dungeons scaled up to 70 with difficulty modifiers. Furthermore, I've run goons though both and you don't need a group. Just unsync it and it allows the person to at least see the bosses momentarily.
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Sep 6, 2017 04:14
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Brother Entropy posted:yeah you're gonna fit in w/this playerbase just fine Yay? Countblanc posted:I really don't agree with the common wisdom of DPS your first job. Queue times for dungeons are much longer (in a game where you must do them to advance the game) and time to kill while solo-leveling isn't really that different until later levels. I get that tanking and healing have a sort of "you must be This Good to play" feeling behind them but it's seriously hogwash and if you've ever played a video game before it won't be a problem if you actually read your abilities when you get them. Yeah, I've been playing video games since I was 4, but I've never been into online games. I'll check some videos of Dragoon and Summoner because those are the coolest sounding ones. Ghost of Starman posted:I'd second the suggestion that among the DPS and at low levels, it mostly comes down to the aesthetics, so if any of them really jump out at you go with that. Cool I like petmans and pokemans, but punchmans sounds interesting and Yang was pretty cool I guess Bolow posted:
That, I want that holy poo poo
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Sep 6, 2017 04:18
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DanZX posted:That, I want that holy poo poo It's pretty easy to get. There's a ridiculous number of cool looking weapons and armor sets in this game.
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Sep 6, 2017 04:22
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Fortunately they said in a recent interview that they're working on something for the CM/Prae problem, for either 4.1 or 4.2. My bet is they'll just become solo instances.
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Sep 6, 2017 04:24
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DanZX posted:That, I want that holy poo poo The problem in FF14 is not finding good looking armor, it's choosing which set of good looking armor to wear. Ever wanted to dress up like a Metal Gear Rising character in your fantasy MMO?  FF14 is there for you. (Not depicted is that the spear generates a magical energy dragon when you pull it out to hit things with it)
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Sep 6, 2017 04:28
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That same interview also confirmed that Guts is stronger than both Zenos and the lvl 70 WoL. I am okay with this.
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Sep 6, 2017 04:29
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Fister Roboto posted:Fortunately they said in a recent interview that they're working on something for the CM/Prae problem, for either 4.1 or 4.2. My bet is they'll just become solo instances. The best solution would be to make then 4-man dungeons followed by an ultima trial but that would be a ton of effort. It would be a huge letdown to make the capstone of ARR be a single player instance but it would be a lot less work. I suspect they have metrics to tell them exactly how many people say "I beat it I'm done" after ultima weapon and thus whether they need something good to retain people
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Ghost of Starman posted:I'd second the suggestion that among the DPS and at low levels, it mostly comes down to the aesthetics, so if any of them really jump out at you go with that. pugilist is PGL
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homeless snail posted:I've been secretly hoping that one of their one dungeon patch features will be a wholesale ripoff of mythic+ that just reuses old content, running old ARR dungeons scaled up to 70 with difficulty modifiers. Sargantas, and too late for that  I'll requeue for it later this week to actually see the fight
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homeless snail posted:I've been secretly hoping that one of their one dungeon patch features will be a wholesale ripoff of mythic+ that just reuses old content, running old ARR dungeons scaled up to 70 with difficulty modifiers. As long as they don't use something like that as an excuse to not make new HM dungeons, I'd be down. Brainamp posted:That same interview also confirmed that Guts is stronger than both Zenos and the lvl 70 WoL. Neither Zenos or WoL is remotely angry enough to match Guts.
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Sep 6, 2017 04:55
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A hot tip for new players that I discovered while I play through the MSQ is that Alphinaud's VA is a million times less annoying if you switch the audio language to French.
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Sep 6, 2017 05:08
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The Seedseer sounds like she was freshly lobotimized
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Sep 6, 2017 05:12
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Bolow posted:The Seedseer sounds like she was freshly lobotimized She's usually drunk on Mun-tuy brew. This is canon.
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Sep 6, 2017 05:14
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Bolow posted:The Seedseer sounds like she was freshly lobotimized This does not improve.
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Sep 6, 2017 05:17
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DanZX posted:Yeah, I've been playing video games since I was 4, but I've never been into online games. I'll check some videos of Dragoon and Summoner because those are the coolest sounding ones. The first 30 levels or so of this game act like you've never played an MMO before, so you shouldn't worry about missing out or misunderstanding things. There's even a brief run of tutorial quests on group content before your first dungeon, which gives some decent rewards that are decent-looking, tbh.
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Sep 6, 2017 05:21
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I'm really happy I decided to start logging my raids in FFLogs about a month ago when my static finally got a full, consistent and reliable 8-man group. It's been super rewarding watching everyone's numbers and performance improve every single week. We've gone from roughly 30-50th percentile to 70th-90th percentile in four raid lockouts. Now just to clear Neo Exdeath...
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Sep 6, 2017 05:30
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haven't had one of these for a while also I changed my healer outfit for the first time in a year so here's another glamour shot for the new guy 
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Sep 6, 2017 05:51
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Bolow posted:The thing that really hooked me on FF14's story at the start is that you're not some chosen one or whatever. You're just some random rear end in a top hat among thousands of other random assholes. In fact there's so many assholes around they had to make a guild to keep track of them all so they don't wreak havoc everywhere and can be controlled to an extent. You even see other groups of adventurers bitching about lovely tanks and bad heals. I would like to take this moment to say this: Take a moment now and then to explore. To eavesdrop in on the occasional NPC conversation. To talk to the quest NPCs, even the ones that don't have the ! over their head. To facepalm at the quest and FATE names. The game has an incredibly rich world that has been created in the past four years since relaunch, just waiting to be found.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:I would like to take this moment to say this: Take a moment now and then to explore. To eavesdrop in on the occasional NPC conversation. To talk to the quest NPCs, even the ones that don't have the ! over their head. To facepalm at the quest and FATE names. The game has an incredibly rich world that has been created in the past four years since relaunch, just waiting to be found. There is a literal goldmine of dialogue here. There's a ton of individual little stories being told in the random NPC's that stand around and the few that say something (if you wonder why the game has a Sexual Content advisory, pay attention to what the non combat NPC's say in Sastasha and what the pirates say in Limsa Lominsa.)
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EponymousMrYar posted:There is a literal goldmine of dialogue here. There's a ton of individual little stories being told in the random NPC's that stand around and the few that say something (if you wonder why the game has a Sexual Content advisory, pay attention to what the non combat NPC's say in Sastasha and what the pirates say in Limsa Lominsa.) At one point I think they removed the drunken potato that literally tries to solicit you (if you're a lady) right before his buddy tells him to knock it off. Used to be hiding in Camp Drybone but doesn't seem to be there any more. And then there's Hunberct Longhanft.
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Saint Freak posted:
Where is the ring? Bolow posted:So my Castrum queue finally popped, and basically everything was cleared by the time I finished each cutscene so I spent almost the entire time catching up to the group Things like this is why I solo'd both the dungeons as a 70 rdm for my brothers so they can actually watch the cutscenes.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:I would like to take this moment to say this: Take a moment now and then to explore. To eavesdrop in on the occasional NPC conversation. To talk to the quest NPCs, even the ones that don't have the ! over their head. To facepalm at the quest and FATE names. The game has an incredibly rich world that has been created in the past four years since relaunch, just waiting to be found. This. If nothing else this game has fantastic world building. Talk to non-quest NPCs every once in a while.
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Skip the first cutscene in Castrum/Prae to let everyone free to spend their time constructively, do whatever you want with the rest.
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