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Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

white sauce posted:

"Yes, these undercurrents of racism could only mean one thing: these people have jobs on their minds"

ever since nafta was signed, the racism factory got moved to canada and my dad couldn't find work no more

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loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

I looked at John Haltiwanger's Twitter feed hoping for salt but it turns out he's currently too mad about DACA to spend any time on bad takes :(

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Know Such Peace
Dec 30, 2008
It’s weird when poor (mostly white) people brag about qualifying for government assistance but refusing help because they are against handouts.

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
VICE "News" ran a godawful piece about Bernie where the reporter is constantly "asking questions."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn4baWjs8JA

Watch if you want to be pissed about journalism and/or love to expose your brain to sophomoric concern-trolling

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Know Such Peace posted:

It’s weird when poor (mostly white) people brag about qualifying for government assistance but refusing help because they are against handouts.

I earned the earned income tax credit, sir.

no what are you doing, I deserve the mortgage interest tax deduction

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Frijolero posted:

VICE "News" ran a godawful piece about Bernie where the reporter is constantly "asking questions."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn4baWjs8JA

Watch if you want to be pissed about journalism and/or love to expose your brain to sophomoric concern-trolling

are you telling me a media outlet by and for rich dicks founded by a white supremacist might be reactionary

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Yeah no, that was a quote from Seth Rich, I'm pretty sure.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Frijolero posted:

VICE "News" ran a godawful piece about Bernie where the reporter is constantly "asking questions."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn4baWjs8JA

Watch if you want to be pissed about journalism and/or love to expose your brain to sophomoric concern-trolling

I :ughh:ed at the "still" in the video name, that's all I really need to see

yes, still

the party has imploded and has no loving message, you can't possibly fault him for not giving up even though he lost an election

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017



Trevor Noah is an actual counterrevolutionary

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

SKULL.GIF posted:

Trevor Noah is an actual counterrevolutionary

Trevor Noah is a house worker not a field worker

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

etalian posted:

Where did they even find these people?


quote:

Its focus groups were composed of what it called “specific universes of battleground voters”—those who switched their vote from Obama to Trump, aged primarily between 30 and 64 and with household incomes below $100,000, and so-called Rising American Electorate voters. Third Way concedes that “these focus groups were not intended to mirror the entire electorate.”

also, they don't share the original data, so they're free to cherrypick quotes and misrepresent data as much as they need to in order to make the conclusions fit their desired policies.

notice that the "RAE" (young non-white or non-male) voter quotes they give are often much shorter than the Obama-Trump voter quotes. that suggests selective quoting, particularly since most of their charts and diagrams look to be purposely misleading or deliberately misinterpreted

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Trevor Noah gonna make jokes about Heather Heyer asking for it by being in the path of the Nazis

The dumb libs watching are gonna laugh

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Phi230 posted:

What's it gonna take to kill neoliberalism because neoliberal culture is insufferable
you have to move to something other than capitalism. otherwise, it will only get worse. capitalists capturing ever more the democrats, the media, and academia is the natural and expected outcome of the economic system.

capitalism is inherently undemocratic. a tiny minority of people make all of the important economic decisions for the rest. by doing so, this tiny minority vests in themselves great inequities that allow them to also make all of the important political decisions for the rest.

any solution that maintains this undemocratic arrangement will fail.

FDR style liberalism does not work. it is a failure. FDR fought corporate democrats the entire time. democrats started moving swiftly away from FDR liberalism as soon as he died. it took many corporate democrats in congress to override Truman's veto on the Taft-Harley anti-union act. today, democrats are making GBS threads all over FDR's legacy by still trying to undermine social security.

richard wolff talks about how hosed up the current economic system is here and also a worker coop solution that can make the workplace democratic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlhFMa4t28A

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

etalian posted:

Trevor Noah is a house worker not a field worker
:chloe:

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

This is why people need religion.

https://twitter.com/alplicable/status/904752141088284672

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


comedyblissoption posted:

you have to move to something other than capitalism. otherwise, it will only get worse. capitalists capturing ever more the democrats, the media, and academia is the natural and expected outcome of the economic system.

capitalism is inherently undemocratic. a tiny minority of people make all of the important economic decisions for the rest. by doing so, this tiny minority vests in themselves great inequities that allow them to also make all of the important political decisions for the rest.

any solution that maintains this undemocratic arrangement will fail.

FDR style liberalism does not work. it is a failure. FDR fought corporate democrats the entire time. democrats started moving swiftly away from FDR liberalism as soon as he died. it took many corporate democrats in congress to override Truman's veto on the Taft-Harley anti-union act. today, democrats are making GBS threads all over FDR's legacy by still trying to undermine social security.

richard wolff talks about how hosed up the current economic system is here and also a worker coop solution that can make the workplace democratic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlhFMa4t28A

truman vetoed taft-hartley???

i've hated the dude for nothing for so long

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Ugh

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

white sauce posted:

I truly don't understand why mods aren't tougher on old Zegermans

All he does is troll. I got a month+ probe for telling ZDR that my opinion was that the ACA wasn't a real solution.

He just trolls all day, multiple threads, and only gets a sixer here and there.

He really sucks and is a really toxic poster, way more than anyone in any CSPAM threads.

I don't get it :shrug:

I thought we were posting rivals :smith:

Vegeta never said "why the gently caress are we bringing back Kakarot, all he does is get us all killed, he literally gave Cell a senzu bean and didn't take his preventative heart meds because he 'didn't feel bad'!"

He just wanted his rival back.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

etalian posted:

Where did they even find these people?



Rural America, a place just one charismatic socialist away from full communism if only we could stop with the identity politics of treating transpeople and immigrants as humans!

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Squizzle posted:

ill throw him one later then!!!!

Squizz me up!

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
I know a pretty good system to rein-in capitalist oligarchs




Jazerus posted:

truman vetoed taft-hartley???

i've hated the dude for nothing for so long

Truman nuked Japan and started the Cold War hth

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Frijolero posted:

Truman nuked Japan and started the Cold War hth
2/3 aint bad

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Know Such Peace posted:

It’s weird when poor (mostly white) people brag about qualifying for government assistance but refusing help because they are against handouts.

it's because they refuse to admit that they're poor

the third way report is full of "middle-class citizens" who have to work 2-3 jobs just to get by or literally have to go into debt just to survive, but still insist that they're not poor and that the government is giving too much help to poor people and not enough to "middle class" people like them

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Those people sound like every lovely white suburbanite.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Jazerus posted:

truman vetoed taft-hartley???

i've hated the dude for nothing for so long

The new Oliver Stone documentary on US history kinda paints Truman as a monster who wasn't even necessary because a much cooler guy was already VP under FDR

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
would be pretty cool if after the nation disintegrates into warring fiefdoms of rival Job Creators the Cubans conquer the Floridian Archipelago and bring about a golden age of socialism and classic cars in that ruined land

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


etalian posted:

Trevor Noah is a house worker not a field worker

this is still mistaken, it presumes that trevor noah suffers from the system

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Also Truman should have fired MacArthur before he was able to gently caress the Korean War up so badly that we went screaming to Truman to nuke hundreds of millions in China for being better at war than him.


TBH the current NK situation is both of their faults.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/mlcalderone/status/905430947398647809

uh why is this bad?

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

https://twitter.com/emmaroller/status/905455404083281924

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

zegermans posted:

I thought we were posting rivals :smith:

Vegeta never said "why the gently caress are we bringing back Kakarot, all he does is get us all killed, he literally gave Cell a senzu bean and didn't take his preventative heart meds because he 'didn't feel bad'!"

He just wanted his rival back.

???

I'm just saying your trolling seems to go unnoticed by the mods who crackdown hard on everyone else, often in shady ways, like giving posters a 32-day sixer

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Also LMAO if you give The New York Times any of your money

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

white sauce posted:

???

I'm just saying your trolling seems to go unnoticed by the mods who crackdown hard on everyone else, often in shady ways, like giving posters a 32-day sixer

I agree you got kinda screwed on that one but that's no reason to go after me, it's reminiscent of people who opposed the $15/hour because they got screwed hard and had to fight for their own $15.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

white sauce posted:

Also LMAO if you give The New York Tomes any of your money

the sad failing NYT

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

I hope the NYT fails

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

BERNIE!!!!

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/905456368416641024

quote:

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Wednesday brushed off Hillary Clinton's criticism of him in her new book about the 2016 presidential election, saying he's not interested in playing the blame game.

"My response is that right now it's appropriate to look forward and not backward," Sanders told The Hill.

"I'm working overtime now to see we overturn Trump's decision on DACA, pass a $15-an-hour minimum wage, and next week I'll be offering a Medicare-for-all single-payer system," he said.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
democrats need to do this :qq:

no democrats need to do thaaat :qq:

wait no democrats definitely need to do this-that :qq:

the only thing democrats need to do is get the gently caress out of the way.

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!

lol, I used to know this dude irl

totally one of those affluent #StillWithHer media gays

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Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

I could not care less



white sauce posted:

???

I'm just saying your trolling seems to go unnoticed by the mods who crackdown hard on everyone else, often in shady ways, like giving posters a 32-day sixer

Mods are namby-pamby liberals hth

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