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*squeezes lemon juice all over face in an attempt to disappear*
marshmonkey fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Sep 6, 2017 |
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Sep 6, 2017 22:38
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Party Plane Jones posted:Don't touch the twitter poop. Yah I know I made my first mistake there, but I guess I didn't realize it was THAT bad.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:38
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Hellblazer187 posted:Why don't we just call it the Ben Carson Effect? He was a genius at Neurosurgery but doesn't know poo poo about urban development. Was he really a genius at neurosurgery though? Just because you have a doctorate in something doesn't mean you're a genius at it. You'd think it does, but it really doesn't.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:39
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MrSargent posted:I normally lurk but came here to post a rather interesting interaction I have had today. I have been more active on Twitter as of late and made the mistake of arguing that "false accusations of sexual assault are very rare and saying they are just as bad as actual sexual assaults ignores that the chances of a woman being assaulted in her lifetime are astronomically higher than being falsely accused". This was in response to a rapper tweeting about false accusations irresponsibly (in my opinion). all social media is really bad because any random jackass or even bot can get on there to just call everyone slurs and as bad as something awful is at least there is some slight disincentive to not be a total rear end in a top hat on here dunning-kruger is when someone isn't smart enough (lacks metacognition) to realize that they aren't smart
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Sep 6, 2017 22:40
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empty whippet box posted:Was he really a genius at neurosurgery though? Just because you have a doctorate in something doesn't mean you're a genius at it. You'd think it does, but it really doesn't. He cut some good brain.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:40
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empty whippet box posted:Was he really a genius at neurosurgery though? Just because you have a doctorate in something doesn't mean you're a genius at it. You'd think it does, but it really doesn't. He invented some new techniques and successfully completed some surgeries previously thought impossible.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:40
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empty whippet box posted:Was he really a genius at neurosurgery though? Just because you have a doctorate in something doesn't mean you're a genius at it. You'd think it does, but it really doesn't. A real neurosurgeon practices on his own brain first.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:41
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:He invented some new techniques and successfully completed some surgeries previously thought impossible.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:42
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coyo7e posted:The silver came from a jew, it's super common among christians to use it as a blanket slander for traitors who take money from "globalists." judas was jewish, as was every other apostle, and jesus himself people use thirty pieces of silver as the reward of betrayal all the loving time in virtually any cultural context where knowledge of the general strokes of the new testament is presumed there's not a lot of things you can reference around the crucifixion of jesus that hasn't been used as bullshit to justify anti-semitism at some point but i am much more familiar with the "give us babbaras" being used as the justification in the middle ages as the "why jews are now bad"
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Sep 6, 2017 22:42
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empty whippet box posted:Was he really a genius at neurosurgery though? Just because you have a doctorate in something doesn't mean you're a genius at it. You'd think it does, but it really doesn't. He is. As I recall, he was the first person to successfully seperate twins conjoined at the head (with brain tissue conjoined, not just bone+skin).
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Sep 6, 2017 22:42
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coyo7e posted:In terms of that profession though that also means that he was much more willing to take on a much riskier process that more reasonable people might not do... So he could then promote himself. Survivor bias does in fact influence who we call geniuses, correct.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:43
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Mister Adequate posted:I've seen plenty of people acting as though climate change will not only wipe out human life, nor even all life, but indeed render Earth so barren a wasteland that it leaves today's Mars look like a blossoming Eden. It has always felt clear to me that after generations of cold war the US built up one and only one vision of the post apocalyptic future. So when the USSR fell and environmental problems became the new biggest threats people never really updated their tropes and people keep talking about things like it's nuclear war. Like not that climate change isn't bad or real, but that instead of a lot of people talking about things climate change might do, they stick to mashing it as a square peg into a round hole of trying to use it to tell the same stories.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:43
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48 Hour Boner posted:These tweets were deleted, so we can reasonably assume the fatality count was inaccurate, right?
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Sep 6, 2017 22:44
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Carson made his name by performing hemispherectomies (Literally removing halves of people's brains), which, while apparently effective in very specific contexts, is pretty hilarious in retrospect.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:44
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empty whippet box posted:Was he really a genius at neurosurgery though? Just because you have a doctorate in something doesn't mean you're a genius at it. You'd think it does, but it really doesn't. I don't think he has a PhD, just an MD. This isn't to say PhDs are geniuses, the only real requirement is bloody-minded tolerance for tedium.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:45
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:It has always felt clear to me that after generations of cold war the US built up one and only one vision of the post apocalyptic future. So when the USSR fell and environmental problems became the new biggest threats people never really updated their tropes and people keep talking about things like it's nuclear war. True, but I'd argue the long term effects of our current state of climate change policy is worse for humanity as a whole than the long term effects of Cold War era nuclear war.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:45
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it it the reverse-halo effect to doubt ben carson's skills as a neurosurgeon because of his lovely politics?
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Sep 6, 2017 22:45
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Nocturtle posted:I don't think he has a PhD, just an MD. This isn't to say PhDs are geniuses, the only real requirement is bloody-minded tolerance for tedium. I'm writing my dissertation right now and you are 100% correct
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Sep 6, 2017 22:46
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awesmoe posted:how would you rate your ability to correctly identify psychological phenomena? 
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Sep 6, 2017 22:47
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GWBBQ posted:She said it's because it was linked on Reddit and she started getting hundreds of threatening and harassing messages. it's also wildly inaccurate, we'd hear by now if more than half of the population of an island had been wiped out. barbuda is only twenty odd miles from antigua, which had no reported deaths (so far) and while damage on barbuda was likely severe it's not like the place is completely radio silent. if there are hundreds dead there then the local government is engaging in a big coverup here's what the new york times has to say: quote:Barbuda is devastated, but Antigua is spared. so, lots of destruction, but barbuda is a relatively rural place - there's only one town, and it's pretty small, so the 90% destroyed figure doesn't directly map to mass death boner confessor fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Sep 6, 2017 |
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Sep 6, 2017 22:48
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WrenP-Complete posted:FWIW, I've never seen halo effect applied to self perception, only to other-perception. i don't think that's right because in the situation he asks about, the person is above average, superior, what have you - in a specific field. the problem isn't their incorrect assessment of themselves but their incorrect generalization of one element being superior to everything being superior. the halo effect is usually about the observer and the observed, but there's no real reason why the observer and the observed can't be the same and the effect going on is precisely the halo effect. why would there be a difference between a trump voter going "well trump is such a good businessman that of course he will be a great president" and trump himself going "well i am such a good businessman that of course i will be a great president"?
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Sep 6, 2017 22:48
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Mister Adequate posted:How in the gently caress is there even enough room for all these storms Do they all have a dance card, so each lovely debutante gets a chance? Good God Almighty.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:48
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Daily reminder hope is always and forever a lie https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/905492731845332992
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Sep 6, 2017 22:48
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Elotana posted:Daily reminder hope is always and forever a lie This is some random bill proposed by Graham that has almost no support in the GOP. Not gonna happen.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:49
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Trabisnikof posted:True, but I'd argue the long term effects of our current state of climate change policy is worse for humanity as a whole than the long term effects of Cold War era nuclear war. Like, because the cold war had zero nuclear wars? or are you saying you think climate change would be worse than like, judgement day? Because that is a pretty silly claim.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:51
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Pollyanna posted:This is some random bill proposed by Graham that has almost no support in the GOP. Not gonna happen. They don't even have legislative language, and it would need final passage by 9/30. That's WITH debt ceiling, the CR, Harvey relief, probably Irma relief, all still to do. I really don't think they can do it. Maybe they give up tax reform or try to make a monster combined bill for the next fiscal year but I don't think they can get it.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:52
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Hellblazer187 posted:They don't even have legislative language, and it would need final passage by 9/30. That's WITH debt ceiling, the CR, Harvey relief, probably Irma relief, all still to do. I really don't think they can do it. Maybe they give up tax reform or try to make a monster combined bill for the next fiscal year but I don't think they can get it. You are working under some odd assumption that they would prioritize hurricane relief over loving over poor people...
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Sep 6, 2017 22:53
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Hellblazer187 posted:Why don't we just call it the Ben Carson Effect? He was a genius at Neurosurgery but doesn't know poo poo about urban development. A whole lot of geniuses are really quite dumb about stuff outside their field. See: most computer whizzes and really sciencey people in general.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:53
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evilweasel posted:i don't think that's right because in the situation he asks about, the person is above average, superior, what have you - in a specific field. the problem isn't their incorrect assessment of themselves but their incorrect generalization of one element being superior to everything being superior. the halo effect is usually about the observer and the observed, but there's no real reason why the observer and the observed can't be the same and the effect going on is precisely the halo effect. why would there be a difference between a trump voter going "well trump is such a good businessman that of course he will be a great president" and trump himself going "well i am such a good businessman that of course i will be a great president"? I think that's just called "being full of poo poo" but I am not a bricklayer so your mileage may be larger than it actually appears.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:54
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Elotana posted:Daily reminder hope is always and forever a lie I have a feeling this is going to be reposted a thousand times. Spoiler: This is not the bill that almost passed, this is some lovely bill with no support that has no chance of passing. Summary: relax.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:56
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Moatman posted:A whole lot of geniuses are really quite dumb about stuff outside their field. See: most computer whizzes and really sciencey people in general. 
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Sep 6, 2017 22:56
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I usually see it called "engineer's disease"
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Sep 6, 2017 22:56
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evilweasel posted:i don't think that's right because in the situation he asks about, the person is above average, superior, what have you - in a specific field. the problem isn't their incorrect assessment of themselves but their incorrect generalization of one element being superior to everything being superior. the halo effect is usually about the observer and the observed, but there's no real reason why the observer and the observed can't be the same and the effect going on is precisely the halo effect. why would there be a difference between a trump voter going "well trump is such a good businessman that of course he will be a great president" and trump himself going "well i am such a good businessman that of course i will be a great president"? Yeah you are right that the second one doesn't totally fit either. The best answer might just be narcissism or egotism or something. There might be no reason why the definition of halo effect couldn't be expanded that way, but I have never seen it applied that way in psychology, so I think using it that way might require more explanation from the writer. I just did a quick lit review and I can find a couple dissertations expanding the definition and exploring it that way. Edit: At work, I might call it "over-estimating self efficacy based on success in a non-germane context" or something. WrenP-Complete fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Sep 6, 2017 |
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Sep 6, 2017 22:59
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Dejawesp posted:George Carlin did it first. He actually mentioned Carlin's bit it the previous paragraph, but he's still an idiot. Captain Monkey posted:Nah, this is an incredibly uncommon connection to draw. Its shorthand for payment for treachery. Feel free to post more than one piece of evidence if you want to prove your point though! Yeah, the treachery of.... Jewdas.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:59
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Like, because the cold war had zero nuclear wars? or are you saying you think climate change would be worse than like, judgement day? Because that is a pretty silly claim. USSR-USA nuclear war wasn't as likely to end humanity as climate change is already and the impacts of that nuclear war would be shorter and less globally impactful. Climate change is really bad my friends.
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Sep 6, 2017 23:03
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Zoro posted:I have a feeling this is going to be reposted a thousand times. Save this tweet for future use. https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/905550209513652224
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Sep 6, 2017 23:03
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empty whippet box posted:Was he really a genius at neurosurgery though? Just because you have a doctorate in something doesn't mean you're a genius at it. You'd think it does, but it really doesn't. It's been said by others, but yes - so much so that he might be the greatest neurosurgeon alive. He was absurdly brilliant in that field.
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Sep 6, 2017 23:07
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Who here is old enough to remember #Fuck2016?
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Sep 6, 2017 23:10
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Mister Adequate posted:It's been said by others, but yes - so much so that he might be the greatest neurosurgeon alive. He was absurdly brilliant in that field. And then squandered it turning children into vegetables and corpses.
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Sep 6, 2017 23:11
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Mister Adequate posted:It's been said by others, but yes - so much so that he might be the greatest neurosurgeon alive. He was absurdly brilliant in that field. Can second this. I know several people that work as surgeons at Johns Hopkins -- his name carries an absurd amount of weight there.
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