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only rarity read this george the animal steele is cool and good
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Nystral posted:Rarity watching 80s PPVs has me thinking of the MegaPowers. The Mega Powers became a team on an episode of SNME.
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Honestly, if you want to see Savage at his best, Rarity, you should watch all the SNMEs going forward from WM4 on. You get to see all his singles angles and there's even a couple shows that are 100% The Randy Savage Show, no Hogan at all! e: I also think from this point in his career until his WCW run Hogan started to put a lot more effort into his network TV matches than his PPV ones, Wrestlemania excepted. The Hulkster was looking to the next phase of his career and he knew where the eyes were, brother. Pinstripe Hourglass fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Sep 5, 2017 |
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Sep 5, 2017 03:41
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That also goes for Jake Roberts. Pretty much anything big he did was on SNME or Wrestling Challenge
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Sep 5, 2017 04:49
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Big Bidness posted:The best quality masks still come from Mexico and Japan and all the mask collectors I know from the US and UK order everything online. Are you looking for pro grade or semi pro? You can get decent quality masks from http://www.mtzwear.com/eng/index.php, http://www.highspots.com/c/Wrestling-Masks.html, https://mrmaskman.com, or http://stores.ebay.com/rafael0666/. Semi pro masks cost about $25- $30, and pro grade start at around $100. Basically pro grade masks use better quality materials, are reinforced, and usually have a lining.
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Pinstripe Hourglass posted:Honestly, if you want to see Savage at his best, Rarity, you should watch all the SNMEs going forward from WM4 on. You get to see all his singles angles and there's even a couple shows that are 100% The Randy Savage Show, no Hogan at all! SNME matches tended to be matches they'd exhausted on the house shows so Hogan would have the matches down pat by that point.
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RealFoxy posted:MTZWear took my money for a mask then never delivered it so be weary about them Good to know. Unfortunately for me I'm a full on mask nerd now, so I just get pro grade and ring worn masks from a network of collectors, luchadores, mask makers, and Japanese stores. The best guarantee for getting a good mask is to buy one right off a luchador's head. Big Bidness fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Sep 5, 2017 |
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Nystral posted:Rarity don't look please It wasn't SNME, it was the prime time special The Main Event
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Sep 5, 2017 06:27
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Who are some good examples of wrestlers that wrestled long enough to get an established reputation for being poo poo either in the ring or on the mic, before eventually turning their working and/or promo abilities around? Folks like Braun Strowman
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Sep 5, 2017 17:53
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Jenny Angel posted:Who are some good examples of wrestlers that wrestled long enough to get an established reputation for being poo poo either in the ring or on the mic, before eventually turning their working and/or promo abilities around? Folks like Braun Strowman The Miz had a reputation for being bad overall and not well liked, improved on the mic and then in ring, then fell apart and has now improved again.
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Sep 5, 2017 17:55
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Jenny Angel posted:Who are some good examples of wrestlers that wrestled long enough to get an established reputation for being poo poo either in the ring or on the mic, before eventually turning their working and/or promo abilities around? Folks like Braun Strowman Undertaker for in-ring work.
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Sep 5, 2017 18:10
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Didn't Lex Luger have a rep for being lovely in the ring for the first 5 years or so of his career? And then he had a really great run in '90 and '91.
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Sep 5, 2017 18:16
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Gavok posted:Undertaker for in-ring work. Among his peers he was always well regarded in ring.
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Sep 5, 2017 19:09
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Ah yes, the Randy Orton Defence
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St Evan Echoes posted:Ah yes, the Randy Orton Defence Randy Orton also has a career of great matches and the best match in Jinder Mahal's career to his credit.
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Sep 5, 2017 19:27
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Big Bossman comes to mind. He was fat goo during the 80s, then in the early 90s he lost a ton of weight and suddenly became really good
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Sep 5, 2017 19:28
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Jimmy Rave is one that came to mind for me
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Jenny Angel posted:Who are some good examples of wrestlers that wrestled long enough to get an established reputation for being poo poo either in the ring or on the mic, before eventually turning their working and/or promo abilities around? Folks like Braun Strowman Mark Henry is a decent example during his Hall Of Pain run. His matches were still rough to watch though.
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Sep 5, 2017 19:45
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Nut Bunnies posted:Jimmy Rave is one that came to mind for me Nigel went from one of the worst wrestlers in the world to one of the best. Granted it was so early in his career but those first couple of years were rough, then he was very average and suddenly within 6 months he was one of the best guys on Earth.
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Sep 5, 2017 19:51
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Wasn't Xavier real bad when he was Consequences Creed? Neville was real bad on the mic but is pretty good as Evil King of Cruiserweights.
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I don't remember Xavier being BAD necessarily, but TNA's roster was like 80 deep, and he was like #78 or so.
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Dias posted:Wasn't Xavier real bad when he was Consequences Creed? Neville was real bad on the mic but is pretty good as Evil King of Cruiserweights. He's about the same honestly.
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DeathChicken posted:Big Bossman comes to mind. He was fat goo during the 80s, then in the early 90s he lost a ton of weight and suddenly became really good Too be fair he was in pretty decent shape during his pre-Bossman days, then got worse and then got in better shape again. Jenny Angel posted:Who are some good examples of wrestlers that wrestled long enough to get an established reputation for being poo poo either in the ring or on the mic, before eventually turning their working and/or promo abilities around? Folks like Braun Strowman Joke answer: Aldo Montoya Real answer: Rob Conway
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Mabel was terrible for years, but he became awesome as Big Daddy V.
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Dias posted:Wasn't Xavier real bad when he was Consequences Creed? Neville was real bad on the mic but is pretty good as Evil King of Cruiserweights. I've come to love the "creepy weirdo with a thousand yard stare" promos from Neville. He's found his wheelhouse. His crowd shot during the last Takeover was great, too. He looked like he hadn't slept for a couple days and was just kinda staring into space.
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Jenny Angel posted:Who are some good examples of wrestlers that wrestled long enough to get an established reputation for being poo poo either in the ring or on the mic, before eventually turning their working and/or promo abilities around? Folks like Braun Strowman Edge and Christian. The first year or two was awful, then once they found their "Nouveaux Hollywood Blondes" niche they started killing it. Unfortunately the gimmick really needed two people playing off each other to work, so once Edge went solo it took him a few years to find a new niche as the "Rated-R Superstar" Matt Hardy spent the first 20 or so years of his career being one of the worst promos ever. Then Broken Matt Hardy happened. Changing the subject a bit: A few questions about Lanny Poffo: 1) We all know that Lanny spent the last years of his career on the bench getting paid by WCW. I know he said that he was happy to cash the checks, but did he ever specify if he was frustrated at not being able to wrestle or was he content having his career effectively end in 1994(?) 2) Did Lanny do any indie appearances after his WCW contract expired? ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 09:28 on Sep 6, 2017 |
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ChrisBTY posted:2) Did Lanny do any indie appearances after his WCW contract expired? Pretty sure he did, and has been relatively recently. I remember seeing a video on youtube where he goes up to some younger guy in the back and slaps him across the face, yelling about how the guy needs to learn to work. Lanny got taken down and put in a kimura or something and the whole thing had to be broken up by the loving Honkey Tonk Man. E: Yeah, here although it could be a work brother titties fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Sep 6, 2017 |
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MassRafTer posted:Nigel .... was one of the best guys on Earth. THE best. He was THE best wrestler on the planet at his peak. He had a list and everything that proved it! Edit: In all seriousness, Nigel at his peak was my absolute favorite wrestler. Everything he did was gold, whether in promos, in the ring, on the mic, commentary etc.
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titties posted:Pretty sure he did, and has been relatively recently. I remember seeing a video on youtube where he goes up to some younger guy in the back and slaps him across the face, yelling about how the guy needs to learn to work. Lanny got taken down and put in a kimura or something and the whole thing had to be broken up by the loving Honkey Tonk Man. it's fake. multiple cameras in the changing room, nobody reacting at all until honkey tonk does something (at which point everyone starts moving around and making noise)
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And what terrible work it is. It's like that book signing work to sell Hulk's thing in oz.
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ChrisBTY posted:2) Did Lanny do any indie appearances after his WCW contract expired? One indie once booked a match between Lanny Poffo and "Black Machismo" Lay Lethal and I commend that act of brilliance.
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ChrisBTY posted:2) Did Lanny do any indie appearances after his WCW contract expired?
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Gavok posted:One indie once booked a match between Lanny Poffo and "Black Machismo" Lay Lethal and I commend that act of brilliance. drat I'd like to see this
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Earlier talk about Megapowers lead me to Youtube rabbit hole of watching Randys best coked up promos (I HATE YOUR GUTS!) and that got me wondering 1. What are considered Savages best promos? And how is he viewed as a promo guy? 2. What are the considered the best promos were the intensity is very High (due coke or rage). And i mean face red spitting some real poo poo! And to top it of here is picture of coke Randy at his peak 
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TheCool69 posted:Earlier talk about Megapowers lead me to Youtube rabbit hole of watching Randys best coked up promos (I HATE YOUR GUTS!) and that got me wondering This is a good one, but maybe for the opposite reasons of what you said about coke madness https://youtu.be/f858fgw4au0
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This one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C4lK41SX-Q
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Was Raymond Rougeau significantly older then Jacques? IIRC once the team ended he disappeared from WWF tv while Jacques continued in various roles.
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Nystral posted:Was Raymond Rougeau significantly older then Jacques? IIRC once the team ended he disappeared from WWF tv while Jacques continued in various roles. I don't know much about them but Raymond is 5 years older yeah
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Jenny Angel posted:Who are some good examples of wrestlers that wrestled long enough to get an established reputation for being poo poo either in the ring or on the mic, before eventually turning their working and/or promo abilities around? Folks like Braun Strowman Gary Jay ended up being decent after starting his career as Gary the Barn Owl and having a legendarily bad match at King of Trios 2009
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Nystral posted:Was Raymond Rougeau significantly older then Jacques? IIRC once the team ended he disappeared from WWF tv while Jacques continued in various roles. Didn't Ray do something on camera, like interviews and the update desk after the team ended?
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