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esperterra posted:Of course not, but to a teenage lesbian it was a bit deal. Well that's the reasonable and mature position to have and obviously you're not the kind of fan that I'd worry about. The worst I ever saw it was in The 100 when the actress who played Lexa got a role on Fear the Walking Dead and had to leave the show. So they wrote her out by killing her off, and because she was in a same-sex relationship with the protagonist, some people LOST THEIR loving MINDS about it. Accusations of homophobia, gay baiting, "burying your gays", laying into the show runner and the writers room, people who hard core shipped, excuse me, Clexa went berserk. Now this is a show with extreme diversity of cast in terms of race, gender and sexuality, but it was being excoriated like it was Last Man Standing or something. The showrunner had to apologize, it was massively dramatic. I've never seen a fanbase feel so entitled to decide the narrative outcome of a show and lose all perspective about how irl stuff affects on-set/on-screen stuff. So a couple of years later, another same sex couple on the show had a falling out, their arc had ended and they wanted to write one of the guys in the relationship out of the show. But they couldn't, not after how the fanbase reacted last time, so he just kind of disappeared. They have this fight, and then the other guy leaves the scene and is neither seen nor heard from again. It's a huge story telling hole that they just have to live with because a small section of the fan base will go mad with rage and try to get everyone fired for narrative choices.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:31
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Nobody cares if a gay guy dies apparently
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Sep 6, 2017 22:37
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No, they didn't kill him, is the thing. He just disappeared and suddenly Miller is developing chemistry with another dude and I'm like, uh what happened to your long term boyfriend Bryan from the very beginning of the show.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:45
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I've watched every episode of The 100 and I don't think I remember any of the character names and I had no idea they swapped the boyfriends.
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Sep 6, 2017 22:51
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zoux posted:Well that's the reasonable and mature position to have and obviously you're not the kind of fan that I'd worry about. The best part is that the person she was ina relationship with is called "the commander of death" and none ofbher same sex lovers haver survived the relationship either. So the fact that a lesbian lover didn't get plot armor is the real source of outrage. Edit: also, there isn't a single relationship in the show that has ended without one party dying. It's just how they roll in the post-apocalyptic warzone. Snak fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Sep 6, 2017 |
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Sep 6, 2017 23:02
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zoux posted:Well that's the reasonable and mature position to have and obviously you're not the kind of fan that I'd worry about. Yeah, the The 100 thing was ... special. I thought Lexa's death was good and far more interesting than her dying in battle or leaving town for no reason, but I'm at work and my thoughts on peoples reactions to that are vast. Besides, I wrote a lot about it in the thread that year. Short version being: how are gay characters supposed to be written just like everyone else if people freak out when one of them dies? I would personally would rather have no lesbians in my shows than ones with ridiculous plot armour the writers need to tiptoe around. e: the gay fridging accusation poo poo was so dumb in a show where the lead character is openly bisexual and v clearly leans more toward bangin other ladies. like the lexa actress got a better job and killing her was the only way to write her off and have it make sense. she would never leave her people or clarke otherwise! esperterra fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Sep 6, 2017 |
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Sep 6, 2017 23:29
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Anyone who isn't watching Toast of London now it's on Netflix worldwide needs to bloody get on with it!
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Sep 7, 2017 00:30
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Iron Crowned posted:No, I like my physical media, and I wish I had more. Same. At least for Movies/TV since almost every one of those comes with digital codes as well now. I hate physical media for music or books but I love it for Movies and TV because bluray just looks better than any streaming service. And if I'm away from home the digital codes mean I have it it on my iPad too.
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Sep 7, 2017 00:57
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I lovee having shelves full of an obscene amount of DVDs, Blu Rays, games and books. Makes moving a bitch, but they're the only things I collect and make for a cozy atmosphere.
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Sep 7, 2017 01:25
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Ryan Murphy's Ratched coming to Netflix Sarah Paulson stars in the origin series, playing the younger version of Nurse Ratched from One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest 2 seasons, 18 episodes ordered Production begins mid next year Ryan Murphy directing pilot Michael Douglas executive produces
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Sep 7, 2017 02:15
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Ryan Murphy seems like he's spreading himself pretty thin.
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Sep 7, 2017 02:23
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my prediction is that Ghosted gets cancelled after like 3 episodes despite being really good
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Sep 7, 2017 02:35
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muscles like this! posted:Ryan Murphy seems like he's spreading himself pretty thin. Yeah, dude needs to calm the gently caress down. Also this is a bizarre idea for a series but I'm pretty into it
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Sep 7, 2017 02:35
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Murphy's shows do best when he spreads himself thin, IMO. Like the first season of a Murphy show is the only season that benefits from him being super hands on, but anything after that and his ideas get too scatterbrained. Asylum was the best season of AHS post-Murder House and he was the least involved in that of all the seasons, iirc. Quality of a Murphy show also depends on if he's writing it, or just producing/directing. At any rate I won't complain about more Murphy/Paulson combos on my TV, they work well together.
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Sep 7, 2017 02:49
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HBO has announced that Veep is ending after season 7. Seems like it was a decision on the creative side, not the network.
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Sep 7, 2017 02:54
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Should have ended after 5 so that's fine.
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Sep 7, 2017 02:56
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I've been assuming that VEEP was gonna end after next season this whole time, it seems like the logical final season.
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Sep 7, 2017 03:01
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Nah it's remained strong, but glad they've got a set end date so they can think of a good ending.
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Sep 7, 2017 03:01
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She hasn't even been the Veep for two seasons now.
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Sep 7, 2017 03:03
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Dunno how legit this is but some pirate watchdog says that GoT was pirated a billion times, not including China. 140m a week. Does that sound even remotely plausible? It says 97% came from streaming sites, no idea how they gather that data.
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Sep 7, 2017 03:14
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esperterra posted:Of course not, but to a teenage lesbian it was a bit deal. And banging the skrull chick
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Sep 7, 2017 03:58
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I wonder how much they're going to stick to the material. I imagine the first season will be pretty close to the original arc, but I hope they take liberties after they run out of the stuff Brian K. Vaughan actually wrote. poo poo went downhill when Joss took over, and I didn't bother picking it back up after him. e: I also wonder how much of the Marvel universe they're allowed to mess with. I can't imagine we'll have any X-Men chilling with Molly.
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Sep 7, 2017 04:13
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precision posted:my prediction is that Ghosted gets cancelled after like 3 episodes despite being really good I think they get to the midseason break with a few episodes aired sporadically afterwards.
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Sep 7, 2017 04:21
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SunshineDanceParty posted:I think they get to the midseason break with a few episodes aired sporadically afterwards. RIP Making History.
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Sep 7, 2017 04:27
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esperterra posted:e: I also wonder how much of the Marvel universe they're allowed to mess with. I can't imagine we'll have any X-Men chilling with Molly. I'm going to guess they won't be able to use any of the Marvel Universe outside of the main characters. Might be one or two oblique references to events from the films since the TV shows tend to do that but I'm guessing it'll be a self contained story. Not gonna lie, though, I wouldn't mind an episode where Jessica Jones gets hired to track down the kids and actually, wait, gently caress. Jessica as a mentor/resident adult to the Runaways would be awesome and now I'm pissed that it's a Hulu show. [Edit: the best "crossover" was Wolverine getting thrown out of a window by Molly and there's no way in hell we're getting that  ][Edit again: actually her Wikia page has an image of her gut punching The Punisher, I guess that happened after I stopped reading the series. We're not gonna get that either, though] asecondduck fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Sep 7, 2017 |
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Sep 7, 2017 04:42
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Yeah, her little fight with Wolverine is what I was thinking of when I typed my first post. Good stuff! Wasn't there also an arc where Cloak and Dagger were pretty heavily involved?
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Sep 7, 2017 04:58
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Chris James 2 posted:Ryan Murphy's Ratched coming to Netflix I fuckin love Sarah Paulson so I can't even complain about this a little.
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Sep 7, 2017 05:04
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esperterra posted:Yeah, her little fight with Wolverine is what I was thinking of when I typed my first post. Good stuff! Wasn't there also an arc where Cloak and Dagger were pretty heavily involved? Yes, and even though there will also be a C&D show running at the same time it doesn't make sense to do that story. In that story C&D were kind of like the "Been there, done that" teen heroes that had already grown up and they are not even going to be close to that point in their own show yet.
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Sep 7, 2017 05:22
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This is the last season of Halt & Catch Fire, right?
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Sep 7, 2017 05:50
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GobiasIndustries posted:This is the last season of Halt & Catch Fire, right? Yep. Series finale on October 21st.
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Sep 7, 2017 05:57
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I'm glad they've kept it a short run. Keeps them from running out of poo poo to do, and with how the show has improved every season I would hate for it to stick around long enough for the quality to start going down instead. Plus it will free up Lee Pace ...
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Sep 7, 2017 06:19
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If there was a fifth season I don't know what technological breakthrough they would cover. iPhones?
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Sep 7, 2017 06:28
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Gonz posted:Yep. Series finale on October 21st. That's good. I love the show but it feels like a good time to end things. Though, I will miss having The Strongest Man in the World around 
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Sep 7, 2017 06:35
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Mu Zeta posted:If there was a fifth season I don't know what technological breakthrough they would cover. iPhones? I would say that the transition from the Old Internet to the social media era would be a pretty interesting one to cover, but possibly too recent to do any good research on.
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Sep 7, 2017 06:55
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esperterra posted:Yeah, the The 100 thing was ... special. I thought Lexa's death was good and far more interesting than her dying in battle or leaving town for no reason, but I'm at work and my thoughts on peoples reactions to that are vast. Besides, I wrote a lot about it in the thread that year. While I agree with you in general, the way they handled it was extra stupid. They knew full well a large and very vocal section of their fanbase were waiting with baited breath for those two characters to get together, and then they kill her two minutes after they have sex for the first time...
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Sep 7, 2017 07:46
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Should show runners and writers be beholden to the more vocal, extreme parts of their fanbase, though? If shows start to tiptoe around the stans and do things to avoid making them angry, we're going to have some really lovely television. Like, I get what you're saying, too, but I just personally find it hard to feel too sorry for the crazy internet lesbians who get that attached to a character. Maybe because I remember being one when I was a pre teen/teen and it gives me douche chills.
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Sep 7, 2017 08:16
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esperterra posted:Of course not, but to a teenage lesbian it was a bit deal. Let's face it, to a teenage girl, Everything is a big deal Source: 18 year old sister.
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Sep 7, 2017 08:30
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Rocksicles posted:Let's face it, to a girl, Everything is a big deal ftfy
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Sep 7, 2017 08:34
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Who was looking for a Strike Back fix? This season of Shooter has been awesome. Shantel VanSanten is totes hot as well.
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Sep 7, 2017 11:14
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