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These are both fantastic, but I prefer the one on the left. I think the I like it because the drab is not what I was expecting, but the gold also looks good so 
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drat, I wanted to see if he would make fleur de lis shoulder emblems for my planned bigly army.
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Bucnasti posted:drat, I wanted to see if he would make fleur de lis shoulder emblems for my planned bigly army. I edited to state that everything looks like it's back now? He hasn't updated his Twitter feed, but maybe it was a database issue on Shapeways' part?
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Sep 7, 2017 14:19
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I love how "so much for the new GW" was the response to the idea of GW going after someone frotting their IP.
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Sep 7, 2017 15:08
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I was talking to my local manager about the shapeways guys. He's cool with his players using the bits on his table as long as they don't make a big deal about it, cause he could technically get in trouble. He mentioned that GW is sensitive to people "riding their coat tails." It really bothers me that there's such a massive demand for this, even something as simple as shoulder pad icons that sit on the shoulder, and GW won't make them but doesn't want anyone else to either.
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Sep 7, 2017 15:11
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Zuul the Cat posted:It really bothers me that there's such a massive demand for this, even something as simple as shoulder pad icons that sit on the shoulder, and GW won't make them but doesn't want anyone else to either. This is the bit that really bugs me. Just make me some goddamn shoulder pads that aren't forgeworld's ten for the reasonable price of remortgaging my house.
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Sep 7, 2017 15:14
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GW probably do want to make them, but it can't just poo poo them out on a 3D printer at a quality level most of their customers would assume was a miscast. There's a lot more investment and risk for them, making it impractical so far. Which is why they only offer their own equivalents for the flagship chapters. We saw an experiment with less popular chapters receiving very cheap transfer sheets a few years ago, and while they did all sell it took a fair while. There's no point investing sculptor time, mould money, and machine schedule on a broad range of stuff that may never sell in the volume they need it to. And they don't get to pick and choose about pursuing infringement at a corporate level. They are required to vigorously defend their IP by law. Lovely Joe Stalin fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Sep 7, 2017 |
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Sep 7, 2017 15:17
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:And they don't get to pick and choose about pursuing infringement at a corporate level. They are required to vigorously defend their IP by law. I 100% understand this, and don't object at all. I think I'd just like them to come up with kind of alternative option for casting (I realise this is a genuine issue). Hard plastic requires insane upfront costs, and forgeworld resin manages to be actually decent because they invest a lot in it. I don't know what the solution is, but it bugs me. Maybe a "marine chapter symbol sprue" that's like the brass ones that FW produce but in hard plastic shaped to go over shoulder pads. The chapter upgrade packs are great, but sometimes I just want decent symbols for my pauldrons, not a dozen alternative bodies and weapons and stuff.
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Sep 7, 2017 15:22
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Yeast posted:
I prefer right, but I'd suggest that you could use the belt as the squad indicator and have it be a different color for each squad. jng2058 fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Sep 7, 2017 |
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Sep 7, 2017 15:22
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:And they don't get to pick and choose about pursuing infringement at a corporate level. They are required to vigorously defend their IP by law. This is the real bitch of it. Old GW was undoubtedly unreasonable dickheads about some things, but sometimes they're required to be or they risk losing the IP. This looks like the guy was just jumping the gun before having any information and assumed GW was the bad guy, though.
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Sep 7, 2017 15:23
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:GW probably do want to make them, but it can't just poo poo them out on a 3D printer at a quality level most of their customers would assume was a miscast. There's a lot more investment and risk for them, making it impractical so far. Which is why they only offer their own equivalents for the flagship chapters. We saw an experiment with less popular chapters receiving very cheap transfer sheets a few years ago, and while they did all sell it took a fair while. There's no point investing sculptor time, mould money, and machine schedule on a broad range of stuff that may never sell in the volume they need it to. This is literally how ShapeWays does it. If you use an ultra-detail resin and the right printer you can make incredibly detailed parts. And the nice thing about additive manufacturing is that you don't need to worry about the volume of individual components; just the volume of the machine itself. Clearly there is a market for people who want to buy various shoulder pads and other miscellaneous bits, and GW could easily profit (and have complete control of the IP). It also opens up GW to a relatively new form of manufacturing and eliminates a lot of the issues with older models and out of date parts. So long as the expectation is set about part quality and surface finish then it's definitely a viable market. Unfortunately GW has a history of resisting change, particularly when it risks their core competency of making models.
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What's the manufacturing process for etched brass anyway? Is it expensive up front like plastic? I'd be perfectly happy with brass Shoulder emblems if I could find what I want for sale and not continually out of stock.
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Sep 7, 2017 15:53
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I think you print a resist over the areas you want not etched and then laser cut or something the areas you want gone completely after etching. I doubt forgeworld does those in house since whatever cutting is involved likely requires a pricey machine.
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Sep 7, 2017 16:06
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berzerkmonkey posted:Pop Goes the Monkey just got all products yanked from Shapeways. They were promoting them heavily at Nova less than a week ago, I'd assume it's just a glitch. Bucnasti posted:What's the manufacturing process for etched brass anyway? Is it expensive up front like plastic? I'd be perfectly happy with brass Shoulder emblems if I could find what I want for sale and not continually out of stock. You put a liner on a piece of brass, then dunk in acid to eat the unprotected brass.
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Sep 7, 2017 16:21
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boulder creek railroad - photo etching brass I just came across this yesterday. However with kids in the house, i dont really wanna buy hydrochloric acid jugs.
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Sep 7, 2017 16:31
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Death Guard chapter tactics and psychic powers are up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/07/codex-focus-death-guard-part-2-special-rules-and-psychic-powers-sep-7gw-homepage-post-2/ They really seem to be focusing on relentless, footslogging infantry.
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Sep 7, 2017 16:31
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I should have practiced in the mirror, I'm only at like 70% Catachan in this:
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When does DG release? Saturday?
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Zuul the Cat posted:When does DG release? Saturday? Preorder this Saturday, release next I think.
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MasterSlowPoke posted:I should have practiced in the mirror, I'm only at like 70% Catachan in this: Scrunt detected. Zuul the Cat posted:When does DG release? Saturday? Book, Morty and the collector set of 3 Plague Marines next Saturday, looking like a four week long release schedule.
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Pendent posted:Death Guard chapter tactics and psychic powers are up: That's cool. Relentless makes sense given their movement penalty. I was hoping they'd get DG-specific possessed but it's not that big a deal. Here's hoping that standard DG get a havoc option/multiple heavy weapon option so we don't get Havoc-less DG
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Yeast posted:
Dude on the left owns, dude on the right extra owns. Can't wait to see how these dudes come together. MasterSlowPoke posted:I should have practiced in the mirror, I'm only at like 70% Catachan in this: new Tinder profile pic found
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So we know there'll be 9 new Datasheets on top of Index reveals so far. For a fact we know that includes Morty, the crawler tank, and the two new termies. Assuming he wasn't just a gag we get the Tallyman too. Who do we expect the remaining 4 to be? They said Daemon Engines plural, too, so I think we can expect some more of those. The Bee fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Sep 7, 2017 |
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Sep 7, 2017 17:34
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Any ChicaGoons going to Dragonfall in October? I can't reg till the 15th but I'm looking to do the narrative event (and Bolt Action on Sunday). DiHK fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Sep 7, 2017 |
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Sep 7, 2017 17:36
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I'm assuming that the cost per model for Death Guard are going to be significant because these special rules and powers are bonkers.
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DiHK posted:Any ChicaGoons going to Dragonfall in October? We are talking about going. There might be a Warhog presence since it's *only* a 12h drive for us. We would do the GT, obvs
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DiHK posted:Any ChicaGoons going to Dragonfall in October? There is a smaller convention in Bloomington that runs a smaller event that I might end up doing instead, although Dragonfall is right up my alley. The wife is likely to prefer I do a single day tournament instead of devoting an entire weekend to one.
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The Bee posted:So we know there'll be 9 new Datasheets on top of Index reveals so far. For a fact we know that includes Morty, the crawler tank, and the two new termies. Assuming he wasn't just a gag we get the Tallyman too. Who do we expect the remaining 4 to be? So far for actual model releases we know we're getting: Morty Typhus Plague Marines Plague Terminators Bigger Plague Terminators (Deathshroud?) Plague Crawler Blight Drones So that's 4ish new sheets. I'm guessing we'll get: Tallymen/Plague Apothecaries (based on that scene from the trailer) Alt build for the Crawler Alt build for the bigger Termies (Elite bodyguards/Lords of Contagion). CC/Heavy Weapon specialist Plague Marine squads. Kinda enticing that there may be more stuff we haven't seen yet, by this time we knew all the Primaris releases.
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MasterSlowPoke posted:I should have practiced in the mirror, I'm only at like 70% Catachan in this: you're my big beautiful boy
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The Bee posted:So we know there'll be 9 new Datasheets on top of Index reveals so far. For a fact we know that includes Morty, the crawler tank, and the two new termies. Assuming he wasn't just a gag we get the Tallyman too. Who do we expect the remaining 4 to be? I could also assume an alternate build option for the Blight Drones that contains its own datasheet, even if that's just some different weapons or whatever.
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SRM posted:new Tinder profile pic found Mirror it so they're naturally inclined to swipe right.
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The Bee posted:So we know there'll be 9 new Datasheets on top of Index reveals so far. For a fact we know that includes Morty, the crawler tank, and the two new termies. Assuming he wasn't just a gag we get the Tallyman too. Who do we expect the remaining 4 to be? SRM posted:I could also assume an alternate build option for the Blight Drones that contains its own datasheet, even if that's just some different weapons or whatever. I'd imagine its referring to whatever this is at least: 
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jng2058 posted:My brother goes with Wracks in a Raider for a fly-by with a pile of Liquifier Guns followed by a second Raider full of Grotesques led by a Haemonculus to tie up the big guns in melee. Plus lots of Dark Lances on a Ravager to vehicle hunt and a triple Disintegrator Ravager for Terminator or general marine hunting. That sounds like a good idea - thanks for the tips. Also, thanks to Typhus as well! --Goes back to losing horribly--
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SteelMentor posted:So far for actual model releases we know we're getting: I don't think there'd be a third termie unit, since they said "both new terminators" when describing the upcoming Death Guard releases. I imagine for those two, we'll get regular Plague Terminators, and Deathshroud as elite bodyguard units. I could see Havoc Plague Marines being around considering that Death Guard don't get proper Havocs. They'll be downright absurd with their Legion Tactic, but that'll be great to see. I think a melee unit will be interesting too, and stand out nicely from the jump pack assault units most factions have. Would an alt Crawler or Blight Drone build necessitate an entire data sheet? I would see those more as wargear options than anything else, but if built significantly differently I could see it being the case. We might get smaller Blight Drones to supplement the big one, too.
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The Bee posted:I don't think there'd be a third termie unit, since they said "both new terminators" when describing the upcoming Death Guard releases. I imagine for those two, we'll get regular Plague Terminators, and Deathshroud as elite bodyguard units. Yeah I think they'll get a separate heavies squad ala Long Fangs, because Relentless havocs may be too much. Maybe ones with different weapon options or fewer of them.
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JoshTheStampede posted:Yeah I think they'll get a separate heavies squad ala Long Fangs, because Relentless havocs may be too much. Maybe ones with different weapon options or fewer of them. 4 blight launchers would still be loving brutal.
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I love the new plague marines, but they are so detailed that it kind of looks odd to have multiple squads of them. They almost look like characters because of all the fiddly poo poo on them
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I'm still of the opinion the new DG have way too much going on. Only the most ascended ought to have gut mouths an such. Too many arm tentacles.
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PierreTheMime posted:I'm assuming that the cost per model for Death Guard are going to be significant because these special rules and powers are bonkers. $49 for a box or seven...
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Honestly, I hugely prefer Chaos marines being mutated in their gods' image over being palette swaps with horns pasted on them. It gives them a more solid identity to me.
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