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Speaking of Kairi, interesting fact. Apparently she designs all of her gear herself. https://twitter.com/KairiSaneWWE/status/905830768865370112 Which I guess ties into this (warning spoilers beyond that link). Bonus: Have another Mandy Leon gif.  I don't know whats funnier in that gif. Mandy botching that spot, or Io very obviously not giving a gently caress. DarkstarIV fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Sep 8, 2017 |
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DarkstarIV posted:I wouldn't. Kairi would probably be over even without the pirate gimmick (she's a super likable babyface, and she knows how to pander/appeal to people), and I don't see her coming up for a long while. Earliest I can see her being called up is the Smackdown or RAW following Wrestlemania next year. SamuraiFoochs posted:Plus she seems super affable so I can hardly imagine fans not connecting with her and management not liking her (at least in the hosed up way WWE Management likes people). So was Bayley, and she speaks fluent english.
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C. Everett Koop posted:So was Bayley, and she speaks fluent english. I think the difference b/w Kairi and Bayley is that Kairi has significantly more in ring charisma than Bayley.
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Candice also designs and makes all her gear. That woman can do it all.
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Finished Round 2 and man it's a leap up from the 1st- it seems like either they had some people in the first who were still green or they were still feeling things out for some reason, but the matches are generally a lot more engaging.
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DM Punk posted:Candice also designs and makes all her gear. That woman can do it all. did you know she's a baker? Not sure if they mentioned that during the MYC or not
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Baron Corbyn posted:did you know she's a baker? Not sure if they mentioned that during the MYC or not Kairi is a Yacht Enthusiast!
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DarkstarIV posted:I think the difference b/w Kairi and Bayley is that Kairi has significantly more in ring charisma than Bayley. I don't think this is as much of a knock on Bayley as you might think it is. Anyway, if Kairi got the booking Bayley got, she would die a painful death. gently caress, if ASUKA got the same booking she'd be hosed. Double gently caress, if OKADA got it he would become Always Bad.
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Yeah but those are good wrestlers so they wouldn't book them that way.
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Aphrodite posted:Yeah but those are good wrestlers so they wouldn't book them that way. You're lucky rovert platonically broke up with Becky Lynch, or you'd have a long-rear end confrontation with him and his post-ironic followers.
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Dias posted:You're lucky rovert platonically broke up with Becky Lynch, or you'd have a long-rear end confrontation with him and his post-ironic followers. What's this now?
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rovert posted:What's this now? It's a joke, rovert, about Becky being a good wrestler and you posting a lot about her back in the day. It's fine.
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Dias posted:It's a joke, rovert, about Becky being a good wrestler and you posting a lot about her back in the day. It's fine. There's not much to post about anymore. She was in this all time bad segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IFRWGOONrg
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rovert posted:There's not much to post about anymore. Yeah, she's getting gently caress all, which is kinda my point there too. WWE is a sinkhole if you wanna play a straight babyface. gently caress, from what I see in PSP maybe they're right and wrestling fans hate white meat babyfaces.
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I wish Becky was the Champion, she's really good. Asuka using the Disarmer and smirking over at her during the last Takeover is hopefully the sign of something to come.
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Smackdown doesn't have time to do anything outside the title with their women's division with the 17 whole minutes of wrestling they have each week.
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Big picture wise Becky will be a bigger factor going forward than Bayley between now and Wrestlemania. More a reflection on Vince's current thoughts on Bayley than Becky. Wish I could talk more about what I know about the Horsewoman stuff without being annoying and sounding wrong when plans inevitably change. But I don't think Vince views Bayley as "worthy" of being in the angle. The stuff at the MYC was all done in the moment without any real long term direction being discussed. Edit: Meltzer keeps speculating there's a Survivor Series match playing off the angle but re-asking tonight it is a match for Wrestlemania not Survivor Series. rovert fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Sep 8, 2017 |
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You got a link or something?
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astrollinthepork posted:You got a link or something? My Twitter? I broke the news that Rousey would be at the MYC, she was training to wrestle and have posted endless amount of stories here. You are free to not believe me. rovert fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Sep 8, 2017 |
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With the Mandy Rose/Io gif, was Mandy supposed to jump higher? I'm trying to figure out what they were trying to do there.
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rovert posted:Big picture wise Becky will be a bigger factor going forward than Bayley between now and Wrestlemania. More a reflection on Vince's current thoughts on Bayley than Becky. Wish I could talk more about what I know about the Horsewoman stuff without being annoying and sounding wrong when plans inevitably change. But I don't think Vince views Bayley as "worthy" of being in the angle. I mean, doing a 4 v 4 for Survivor Series would make the most sense in terms of wrestling and also keep anyone of the mma girls from being too exposed in the ring. But from a financial standpoint doing the whole Rousey thing at Mania makes more sense.
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DarkstarIV posted:Like legit, the worst thing I've heard about Kairi is that she...is dating someone??? And the only people who are mad about that are absolute shut-ins who hate that she isn't pure. My only concern is that Shane Thorne is a West Coast Eagles supporter, therefore enthusiasm for crystal meth.
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TV Zombie posted:With the Mandy Rose/Io gif, was Mandy supposed to jump higher? I'm trying to figure out what they were trying to do there.
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If that like two minute segment of six women challenging each other to a fight was "all-time bad" then good god what did you think of Diva's Revolution and I WISH YOU DIED IN THE WOMB
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No idea if Scoops McRovert's sources would know, but how does Vince reconcile how over Bayley was in NXT and at her Raw debut with what's happened? I assume he won't make the connection between the booking and her current situation, but like, what else is there? Just generic "oh, she can't cut it on the big stage" excuses?
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MrBling posted:Someone needs to sit Piper Niven down with some tapes of of Aja Kong, Bull Nakano and Vader so she can learn how to properly carry herself as a monster wrestler. Yeah. Like her match with Toni was super fun, but seeing the big wrestler do the same thing as the smaller wrestlers....but slightly gracefully makes the whole thing less special. There was a great bit by Bryan Alvarez talking about him having a match vs. a giant guy, near 7 feet tall. He looked back on it, where he suplexed the guy multiple times, threw him around in various others ways, and was just embarrassed they'd been that stupid. Chinston Wurchill posted:Lacey inarguably has a terrible gimmick, but I thought Toni was trying way too hard as well. Aphrodite posted:It's another one that's more of a look than a gimmick. Her character is still just "I'm a mom and ex marine and I'm tough" except she dresses like Peggy Carter. Maxwell Lord posted:I think the fact that they push the whole "AMERICA TROOPS MOM USA" thing so hard makes it kinda backfire. She was a marine! That's why she dresses like a retro pinup and wrestlers with no character or military mannerisms! She brings no character, gimmick of personality to the ring. She seems like an incredibly bland wrestler who they have a weird liking for, like any time they say "THE ATHLETICISM" about somebody who's a pretty generically boring wrestler. Plus they talk about her real history too much, especially when I think she's supposed to be a heel? See that also, she's too bland to have an allegiance. dsriggs posted:Actually, JR is goo- I both completely agree that it's a marketing concern, but learning how to delicately say it should be part of your job as talent relations. Why was he never taught code for it? Oh right, WWE. TheHock posted:- A little sad that the Jazzy/Abbey match didn't come off as well on tape either. The crowd was super low energy, but when Abbey fired up the crowd really woke up, and as sloppy as that match was at times, it was a lot of fun. Jazzy got an even bigger reaction during a tag match on the second day, leading to huge "Please sign Jazzy" chants during and after the match. Triple H came out for a promo during this and shamed the crowd for making him spend so much money signing cruiserweights. I really wish that Jazzy/Abbey they just went off the crowd reaction, and had the capacity to say 'gently caress it' and just do a 5 minute sprint of fighting spirit. I get why WWE doesn't want their workers to do that, but I also think it's an example of why people love the Indy style and don't like WWE's feeling. I mean it's probably the only company in the world that can have so many bland Kevin Owens-AJ Styles matches in a row. I really don't like Shayna. She looks like an MMA fighter who has completely not transitioned into being a wrestler, and her movements all look stiff and awkward. She looks like a super green rookie, which is worrying as she's now being wrestling on the indies since April 2016. MrBling posted:Her striking just looked slow and soft. My stereotype that I've gotten from years of watching is that that's women's wrestling in general. They rarely look like they're trying to commit violence upon each other. Aphrodite posted:Abbey Laith, Bianca Belair, Dakota Kai, Kairi Sane, Lacey Evans, Reina Gonzales, Rhea Ripley, Sage Beckett, Sarah Logan, Taynara Conti, Vanessa Borne, Xia Li, and Zeda are all already signed. WWE is stupid and needs to actually pay better if Toni Storm isn't signed. During her match against Sane they told some lies about the comparisons, so let me outline some: Toni is 7 years younger, but has 3 years more experience, is more globally experienced, and I can see her doing better in WWE due to her mix youth, skill, global appeal; and I would easily believe Toni is less injured. I really wanted her to win the whole tournament. Madness if they haven't thrown enough money at her. Or she thinks she can negotiate better in 3 years when she's an even bigger star, and she's being professionally fulfilled outside of WWE. I hope it's not just that I'm an Australian, but drat did I love the 2 Australian women in this tournament. rovert posted:I'd date Shane. Word Gaz-L posted:No idea if Scoops McRovert's sources would know, but how does Vince reconcile how over Bayley was in NXT and at her Raw debut with what's happened? I assume he won't make the connection between the booking and her current situation, but like, what else is there? Just generic "oh, she can't cut it on the big stage" excuses? Always remember to combine that with the classic "you marks don't understand the business". It's astounding to listen that sometimes, like people in WWE who say crappy boring vets are good workers. Wazzu fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Sep 8, 2017 |
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TV Zombie posted:With the Mandy Rose/Io gif, was Mandy supposed to jump higher? I'm trying to figure out what they were trying to do there. Looks like a back body drop that almost got Sabu'd
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If I recall, Toni Storm has said in numerous interviews that while she wants to sign with the WWE, its not her goal right now as she feels like there is more to be learned in Japan and other independent circuits before she even thinks about signing with them. She is also STARDOM's biggest foreign talent right now, booking wise.
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Speaking of talent though, WWE is already flying at least one of the MYC finalists out to Las Vegas. https://www.instagram.com/p/BYyUis3lFFq/ Which makes sense, because after Irma hits, things are likely going to be a massive shitshow at the Orlando airport.
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Super No Vacancy posted:nxt doesn't pay poo poo but it is certainly tougher for women to make themselves a star elsewhere so that the fed actually has to pay a premium and give a corresponding big money push Hold on a second... I though it has been said to be the complete opposite. The women have far more opportunities since they can do modeling or whatever, so they need to be given more money to sign a development contract, where the men are given less because they don't have many opportunities outside of wrestling. That said, who knows what that means in terms of money. like the difference between a 50K development deal and a 85K deal?
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Gaz-L posted:No idea if Scoops McRovert's sources would know, but how does Vince reconcile how over Bayley was in NXT and at her Raw debut with what's happened? I assume he won't make the connection between the booking and her current situation, but like, what else is there? Just generic "oh, she can't cut it on the big stage" excuses? He thinks she's ugly. Pretty much that. Also tries too hard to be a good wrestler whatever that means.
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Astro7x posted:Hold on a second... I though it has been said to be the complete opposite. The women have far more opportunities since they can do modeling or whatever, so they need to be given more money to sign a development contract, where the men are given less because they don't have many opportunities outside of wrestling. Nope. Outside of a few exceptions (Japan mostly), women tend to make significantly less than the men do on the independent scene. The exception to that rule is because Japan is really weird and a lot of the joshi there will do modeling/pose for various magazines and gravure, along with getting a decent cut of their merchandise sales. Dave reported Kairi took a huge paycut when she signed her WWE contract (which is apparently $60,000/yr). To put it in perspective, Kairi was making enough money to buy designer brand clothing while in Japan (according to her old blog), and bought a new car when she moved to Florida.
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DarkstarIV posted:If I recall, Toni Storm has said in numerous interviews that while she wants to sign with the WWE, its not her goal right now as she feels like there is more to be learned in Japan and other independent circuits before she even thinks about signing with them. She is also STARDOM's biggest foreign talent right now, booking wise. Toni most likely gets a WWE UK deal. A stipend that gives WWE first refusal on her bookings.
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i've been told similar things about Vince and bayley. He is very annoyed that it's not spelled "bailey" and has kept on saying "that's not a good temperature of a name in the first place", which has been confusing most scoops people into not even bothering to report it
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Need a good temperature name like Fang McFrost
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Wazzu posted:I both completely agree that it's a marketing concern, but learning how to delicately say it should be part of your job as talent relations. Why was he never taught code for it? Oh right, WWE. When JR was talent relations that it is how they did things.
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:Looks like a back body drop that almost got Sabu'd Looks like a flapjack to me
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DarkstarIV posted:
How do you botch taking a flapjack  Literally the only thing you have to do is jump and fall on your stomach
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Astro7x posted:Hold on a second... I though it has been said to be the complete opposite. The women have far more opportunities since they can do modeling or whatever, so they need to be given more money to sign a development contract, where the men are given less because they don't have many opportunities outside of wrestling. I think you are talking about the difference between a Vanessa Borne contract and a Jerome Turner contract; I am talking about the difference between a Ruby Riot contract and a Drew Galloway contract.
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