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codenameFANGIO posted:I thought those things were popular and making a ton of money but I guess I don't really know anything about business. Yeah, are Lego Star Wars and Lego Dimensions not making hand-over-fist?
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Avirosb posted:https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/905596338573905920 Also incapable of reading an entire article since this one could have been titled "Is Lego going to disappear?" with the standard answer for headline questions.
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letthereberock posted:A piece on Brietbart is making the claim that hurricane damage is getting worse BECAUSE of people believing in climate change. Reminds me of the children's play of Peter Pan; "If you only clap hard enough, you can save Tinkerbell!"  "If Liberals believe in climate change hard enough, they can drown everyone in Texas!" 
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codenameFANGIO posted:I thought those things were popular and making a ton of money but I guess I don't really know anything about business. they kind of are but suddenly lego went from manufacturing and marketing plastics to a multimedia entertainment company. this can be an unwieldy and difficult combination to manage years ago one of my clients was a software company which was a wholly owned subsidiary of a furniture company. they were both involved in selling product to public schools so it kind of made sense but how many people are there out there who understand the furniture business as well as the software business? Takoluka posted:Yeah, are Lego Star Wars and Lego Dimensions not making hand-over-fist? i'd bet they are profitable but not that profitable. the problem is lego makes some money licensing their brand for use in film and games but those film and games are also competitors to their core toy business boner confessor fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Sep 7, 2017 |
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Ralepozozaxe posted:I never realized how expensive legos were when I was young. If I were a parent and had to choose between buying minecraft once or constantly buying 20 - 300+ dollar boxes of plastic, i'd go with the minecraft. No kiddingI remember when those things were cheap.
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Great, the know nothing conjecturing is coming from inside the thread. Can we keep the idiotic bloviating about things the speaker doesn't understand to the pundits please? K thx
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PJOmega posted:Great, the know nothing conjecturing is coming from inside the thread. Can we keep the idiotic bloviating about things the speaker doesn't understand to the pundits please? Look, the simple fact is that the quality of both the actual plastic bricks and the designs of the overall models have declined significantly since they decided that Space Police should be loving green back in the late 90s. You can draw a trend line over the objective measure of quality that demonstrates the current decline of the Lego company since that point.
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Civil Lies posted:Fox is really hammering the Southern Poverty Law Center tonight. What did they do over the past 24 - 48 hours to deserve this much focus? They haven't done anything in particular, but ever since CNN shared the SPLC's list of hate groups post-Charlottesville, religiously-based hate groups have been really pushing the "T-t-t-they lump us good Christian organizations in with the KKK and Nazis, the SPLC are the REAL haters!" narrative. Yesterday, a bunch of them got together and put out a demand that no news network should ever trust the SPLC, and that they're obviously a far-left extremist anti-Christian organization, and by the way Muslims are the real threat, and yadda yadda yadda. I mean, Fox News routinely hosts Tony Perkins and Pamela Geller, so it's not like they were going to use the SPLC's data anyway. It's just another branch of the "Y'know, the people against the Nazis? They're the REAL bad guys!" propaganda attack going on all over conservative media nowadays.
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codenameFANGIO posted:I thought those things were popular and making a ton of money but I guess I don't really know anything about business. Same. They have their own loving stores, movies, TV shows and theme parks. You'd think the licensing alone would be beyond lucrative. As far as them being overpriced, I just go to the flea market or a garage sale and buy giant bags of misfit legos then my son and I just build whatever we want, which was how it used to be and I find to be way more fun. But I love how some jackass can figure out a way to make a political connection between declining Lego sales and "those liberals and their video games". And, yeah, gently caress rush Limbaugh because Irma is going to hit Miami directly. He'll just say it's not on the offhand chance that it turns east, then calim to be smarter than everyone else, but if it hits, he'll never mention it again and none of his listeners will even remember he said it.
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BiggerBoat posted:As far as them being overpriced, I just go to the flea market or a garage sale and buy giant bags of misfit legos then my son and I just build whatever we want, which was how it used to be and I find to be way more fun. But I love how some jackass can figure out a way to make a political connection between declining Lego sales and "those liberals and their video games". they're not totally wrong. video games are toys too, so it's virtual toys vs. physical toys
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McGlockenshire posted:Look, the simple fact is that the quality of both the actual plastic bricks and the designs of the overall models have declined significantly since they decided that Space Police should be loving green back in the late 90s. You can draw a trend line over the objective measure of quality that demonstrates the current decline of the Lego company since that point. y'know, i was all set to make a semi-seriouspost about their shift away from somewhat generic theme sets to licensing existing brands undercutting the concept of limitless creative exploration the toy was originally built around, but you nailed it in one
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The Muppets On PCP posted:y'know, i was all set to make a semi-seriouspost about their shift away from somewhat generic theme sets to licensing existing brands undercutting the concept of limitless creative exploration the toy was originally built around, but you nailed it in one Eh but that's dumb because you can still kitbash all of it anyway. You should see some of the stuff my younger cousins make of combining Star Wars and Pirates of the Caribbean sets with the non-licensed sets.
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fishmech posted:Eh but that's dumb because you can still kitbash all of it anyway. You should see some of the stuff my younger cousins make of combining Star Wars and Pirates of the Caribbean sets with the non-licensed sets. You need to have a discussion with your cousins about canon and why it matters.
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boner confessor posted:they're not totally wrong. video games are toys too, so it's virtual toys vs. physical toys Except there's a ton of Lego vide games too? And my point was leave it to a RWM pundit to try to tie it into some terrible example of liberal ideology run amok.
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BiggerBoat posted:Except there's a ton of Lego vide games too? And my point was leave it to a RWM pundit to try to tie it into some terrible example of liberal ideology run amok. These are the same kind of people that thought Nintendo was being too politically correct for no longer referring to Mario as a Plumber, despite the fact that what Nintendo did was point out "he's had many jobs over many games," instead of just calling him a plumber, a thing he hasn't really done since the arcade Mario Bros.
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BiggerBoat posted:Except there's a ton of Lego vide games too? sure, but lego makes money off those while it undercuts their toy business think about a manufacturer of sports equipment for kids also publishing sports video games. a kid into sports playing a sports video game isn't playing outside as much with the actual toys. it's creating competition for yourself in a way. you make some money regardless but you're kind of straddling two different businesses aiming for the same demographic
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boner confessor posted:sure, but lego makes money off those while it undercuts their toy business I think that says more about the shifting demographics and the delivery of entertainment than any kind of "lazy kids these days" sort of argument aimed at liberals though, so the author was being disingenuous. It's like saying "kids these days don't watch Sesame Street anymore because 'Youtube' and 'Netflix'". Maybe a bad analogy but I dunno. My son plays with his Legos while he watches TV. He doesn't play with Marbles, hula hoops, spinning tops, jacks, wear a Davy Crockett hat or put baseball cards in the spokes of his bike either and I think it's a stretch (to say the very least) to attribute that to anything he's learning in "liberal schools", things he's gleaned from his "lazy liberal parents" or any sort of indoctrination he's supposedly experiencing. It's almost as if the guy that wrote that was full of poo poo.
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boner confessor posted:sure, but lego makes money off those while it undercuts their toy business Please, stop talking. This thread doesn't need to generate any more misunderstanding about the world, theres plenty of that out there already.
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maybe that's the spin the rwm idiot put on it but there's just more things kids can entertain themselves with now and so physical toys have to compete with virtual toys and all kinds of screened devices
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UmOk posted:So what is RWM saying about Trump being a Democrat puppet now? Rush is blaming Ryan and Mcconnell for being spineless and bad at governance. He is also claiming the republicans might as well be Dems, and they secretly like and are behind what Trump did. Oh and the Dems are both evil masterminds that control everything but are also being played by Trump. Trump who is bitter that he didn't get The Wall, Repeal/Replace and Tax Reform and acted out against the Rs to show he means business and will get these things with the Dems. Trump is also not an ideologue but is still for sure your man dear listeners and will use this to get what we want. Its about this point in his rambling that I blacked out. When I came back he was letting us know the government is forcing him out of the area tomorrow and he can't do a show.... because of the government and not that Hurricane thing... Dr.Tree fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Sep 7, 2017 |
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Dr.Tree posted:Rush is blaming Ryan and Mcconnell for being spineless and bad at governance. He is also claiming the republicans might as well be Dems, and they secretly like and are behind what Trump did. Oh and the Dems are both evil masterminds that control everything but are also being played by Trump. Trump who is bitter that he didn't get The Wall, Repeal/Replace and Tax Reform and acted out against the Rs to show he means business and will get these things with the Dems. Trump is also not an ideologue but is still for sure your man dear listeners and will use this to get what we want. Its about this point in his rambling that I blacked out. Honestly, you could have a random Rush show from the last six months and it wouldn't be immediately noticeable. It's soap opera for conservatives.
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UmOk posted:So what is RWM saying about Trump being a Democrat puppet now? When he fucks something up or does something they dislike, that's why. When he does something they like, he's MAGA and awesome. Must be nice to have separate categories of "facts" you can go to explain away anything that contradicts your rigid, established ideology and wedge it into your predetermined worldview; from FAKE NEWS and media bias to selective Bible quotations down to simply outright ignoring when Obama was president and re-writing history. They're good at this and I think that's where their comfort level comes from and why they stay entirely in their bubble. Confirmation bias, etc. etc. It's a trait I find that most conservatives I know largely share. Yesterday on my FB feed, I got an unironic "Kenyan, Muslim, Socialist" post and I liked to poo poo. People honestly BELIEVE this crap and, worse, believe whatever is convenient.
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:ever since CNN shared the SPLC's list of hate groups post-Charlottesville, religiously-based hate groups have been really pushing the "T-t-t-they lump us good Christian organizations in with the KKK and Nazis, the SPLC are the REAL haters!" narrative. That's actually what caught my attention. I think it was Tucker Carlson (but it may have been one of The Five, the narrative was being pushed on both shows) that was reading a list of groups the SPLC has listen as hate groups while making smarmy remarks like "this one actually has Family in it's name. How could something with this name possibly endorse hate?!?" Oh, and there was something about them hiding billions of dollars in offshore accounts for ~reasons~
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Civil Lies posted:That's actually what caught my attention. I think it was Tucker Carlson (but it may have been one of The Five, the narrative was being pushed on both shows) that was reading a list of groups the SPLC has listen as hate groups while making smarmy remarks like "this one actually has Family in it's name. How could something with this name possibly endorse hate?!?" l o l *ignores every family org that made noise about The Gays* My god this Tuckerson guy sounds like the biggest cocksucker ever, how has he flown under my radra for the last 8 years? Did he just go all in for defending Donnie?
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He's been around for a long time. He used to be one of the hosts of Crossfire on CNN which pretty much started the conservative vs liberal argument media we live in today.
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The most accurate description of Tucker Carlson's show I've ever heard was when John Oliver referred to it as "That Guy You Hated In Every College Class with Tucker Carlson" He's this aggravating mix of clueless and argumentative.
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I've been riding out the Trump administration so far without having waded into any RWM since they're all likely Neo-Nazi lite sites by this point. On Monday though we were driving back from where we spent Labor Day weekend, and someone was finding a station to listen to music and they mistakenly lingered on a talk radio station. The Rush Limbaugh Show was on. I demanded the driver of the vehicle to change the loving station immediately. I was existing in bliss up until that voice rang in my ears. Fast forward a few days, I have been sick and pretty much have nothing to do except follow the news and I always loved to follow hurricane seasons and this one has been pretty... well crazy so far. Then in my news feed was an article from the Washington Post deriding Rush Limbaugh from calling the hurricane forcasts fake and a way to terrorize the population to push a political agenda. Knowing Limbaugh how I do I couldn't resist perusing his transcript defending himself since he loving loves whining about how the MSM tarnishes his good name. quote:RUSH: Now, I want to say here at the start that I know the vast majority of you in this audience have at best a passing interest in the approaching hurricane, Hurricane Irma. If you live anywhere west of Florida or Georgia or South Carolina, North Carolina, you probably don’t care that much. I remember when I grew up in Missouri, the weatherman would tell us when hurricanes hit, but it was nothing that was ever gonna affect us, and so there was not a direct emotional connection to it. quote:... We're not done yet though, this transcript ends with someone calling in to stroke good ol' Rushbo's massive ego quote:RUSH: Susan in Cline, Texas. You’re next. Great to have you. How are you doing? Limbaugh just dangles that red meat in front of that caller!  He won't say what he really thinks because he'll take a position after it has already happened to coincide with what reality is. Then he can refer back to segments such as this vaguely to assert that his position was correct even though he isn't saying anything at all of substance. Then he can also play victim because the mean old mainstream media was chastising him for lying but he turned out to be right all along!Limbaugh is on record as distrusting climate models, so I wonder if that extends to hurricane models as well? He's in Palm Beach so I bet he's actually sweating bullets hoping this thing misses him 
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I skimmed/learned in the Donnie thread that Rush's mcMansion is in FL, why the gently caress is he making noise instead of ranting about other poo poo then take a coincidental vacation for the next few days/weeks? I hope he stays and dies.
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True Pundit really deserves some credit for being a top source of such a steady stream of bullshit...
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Why is being "right" about a hurricane the mountain Rush Limbaugh wants to die on?
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Because "if he's wrong about the hurricane, he could be wrong about other stuff" But that would require critical thought and if his listeners had that they wouldn't be his listeners.
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Kekekela posted:True Pundit really deserves some credit for being a top source of such a steady stream of bullshit... I actually came in here to post the story about Franco Harris saying Kaepernick would of been dealt with back in the day. Mostly because I keep seeing people post it who clutch at the nearest pearls whenever Antifa is brought up and screech about how "Violence is not the answer!"
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And here's the Rush Limbaugh Money Shot https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/906144438916931584
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try the new taco place posted:And here's the Rush Limbaugh Money Shot Maybe he's going to meet up with an eccentric Danish inventor with his own private submarine to inspect the hurricane first hand?
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Vargatron posted:Why is being "right" about a hurricane the mountain Rush Limbaugh wants to die on?
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ZobarStyl posted:Being receptive to right wing thought means you're all but incapable of viewing anything outside of a binary lens - if Rush is right, he must be right about all things, or he would be wrong, and wrong is bad. He'll retcon this entire episode next week as even greater proof of how right he is, and his shitlead listeners won't even bat an eye. Because if he's right, it's a vehicle and a means towards self validation and if he's wrong (which he IS), his listeners will totally forget about it and he'll certainly never mention it again. Anyone who brings up the bullshit he said will be "FAKE NEWS" and his listeners will never hear it anyway since they live in a bubble. He's trying to discredit science (climate science in particular) and essentially has nothing to lose with this lame attempt of pointing out that weather forecasting is an inexact science and they sometimes err, which in his mind is enough to prove how he's always right. I'm rather envious of the win/win window he's framed his statements in, and the manner by which RWM in general has followed suit. They've regressed to the point of openly denying things we have them on record as actually saying or writing, where straight up lying is barely even called out anymore, and are above accountability at this point. It's full on propaganda and people eat it up. If he was right, we'd never hear the end of it. Now that he's wrong, he's blaming the media for mis-reporting the words we can all read and heard him say.
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Huh, I didn't know about this movie but now I'll have to make sure to check it out, thanks for the tip Joe!
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I'm no meteorologist but from what I understand weather forecasting and modeling is extremely computer intensive and there's just a massive amount of variables to consider in nature. Either the hurricanes misses and they're like "see, science was wrong!" or it kills a bunch of people and it's "somebody should have told us about this!".
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Vargatron posted:I'm no meteorologist but from what I understand weather forecasting and modeling is extremely computer intensive and there's just a massive amount of variables to consider in nature. Either the hurricanes misses and they're like "see, science was wrong!" or it kills a bunch of people and it's "somebody should have told us about this!". This is all true in the basic way, however, there's a difference between acknowledging the inexact-ness of meteorology and just outright saying that climate change is fake and this hurricane isn't a problem at all despite overwhelming statistical evidence to the contrary. We're dealing with a group of people (right wing pundits) that are now reaching the point where they're claiming this uptick in powerful hurricanes is because we as a species had the audacity to analyze this stuff and report on climate change. None of their critiques are actually based in reality, and it is going to get people killed.
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