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Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Krispy Kareem posted:



After a decade of great revenue and increasing market share during one of the worst recessions ever. Their layoffs now are more from consumer fatigue rather than tightening wallets. It’s plastic bricks. There’s only so many different ways you can market that.

No way. There are an infinite amount of ways to market Lego. Any IP that is a hit among children can have a Lego spin off. Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Marvel, Disney.

Hell even Mega Bloks was making GAMER bricks for a while, Warcraft, Call of Duty, Halo, all had their own line.

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Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!

Fried Watermelon posted:

No way. There are an infinite amount of ways to market Lego. Any IP that is a hit among children can have a Lego spin off. Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Marvel, Disney.

Hell even Mega Bloks was making GAMER bricks for a while, Warcraft, Call of Duty, Halo, all had their own line.

See, that's where LEGO started to lose my interest. I wanna see the cool crazy stuff they come up with, not Harry Potter set piece #50 or Star Wars vehicle #83

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Boywhiz88 posted:

See, that's where LEGO started to lose my interest. I wanna see the cool crazy stuff they come up with, not Harry Potter set piece #50 or Star Wars vehicle #83

They never stopped making their own stuff too.

ianmacdo
Oct 30, 2012
Fidget spinners. Those seem to have been one of the quicker fads to come and go that I've seen.
Stores with huge sections and at the Pne fair this year someone paid for a huge double booth selling them too. Never see any customers for either of these now.

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!

Inescapable Duck posted:

They never stopped making their own stuff too.

I've only seen them adversities original stuff here and ther recently. Post-Mission to Mars, it seemed like the only space sets were Star Wars themed. Ah well, doesn't matter anyway. I'm gonna give my niece and nephew my old sets as they get old enough in the next couple years.

TenCentFang
Sep 5, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo

ianmacdo posted:

Fidget spinners. Those seem to have been one of the quicker fads to come and go that I've seen.
Stores with huge sections and at the Pne fair this year someone paid for a huge double booth selling them too. Never see any customers for either of these now.

Fidget spinners and other twitchy toys are great for special needs kids, but the trendiness has been real fuckin annoying to a lot of that crowd and it's a shame if they go up in flames because they could be a great resource.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

I believe lego specifically called out that their lego batman sets heavily underperformed as a reason for worker contractions.

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



Barudak posted:

I believe lego specifically called out that their lego batman sets heavily underperformed as a reason for worker contractions.

They did

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Remember those LEGO Prince of Persia sets?

Yeah, licensing deals can fail fast. You’d think Batman would be a safe bet, but who wants a Ben Affleck minifig?

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



Krispy Kareem posted:

Remember those LEGO Prince of Persia sets?

Yeah, licensing deals can fail fast. You’d think Batman would be a safe bet, but who wants a Ben Affleck minifig?

Lego Batman was a movie spin off from the Lego movie. He was voiced my Will Arnett

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Yeah, but I’d be surprised if they didn’t have a Justice League set which swings the pendulum right back into the other shittier Batman’s territory.

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

Krispy Kareem posted:

Remember those LEGO Prince of Persia sets?

Yeah, licensing deals can fail fast. You’d think Batman would be a safe bet, but who wants a Ben Affleck minifig?

Every gay man

The American Dream
Mar 1, 2007
Don't Forget My Balls
Saw a Lego Wayne manor and bat cave from the 60s series for $200. Had the batmobile and like 5 villains and I thought about buying that for a minute. It looks pretty rad

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
They definitely went way too all in on Lego Batman stuff. And I say this as someone who has a proud collection of Z-list villain minifigs. The Eraser has his own freaking custom head! And then Zodiac Master, March Harriet, and Mime, freaking Mime.

Kinda weird that despite having the other Alice in Wonderland themed villain, The Mad Hatter was conspicuously absent from The Lego Batman Movie and associated merch. Trying not to step on Disney's toes?

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




Krispy Kareem posted:


Yeah, licensing deals can fail fast. You’d think Batman would be a safe bet, but who wants a Ben Affleck minifig?

I do, but I'd only get it if it featured drunk out of his fuckin mind, cheating on his wife with mad strippers.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I legit wouldn't mind a Good Will Hunting set.

I guess I can make my own. LEGO has apple pieces and I could use a LEGO Harry Potty Hagrid as Robin Williams. There's probably a bland yellow faced miniface that would work for Matt Damon.

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!
Give me my Lego Reindeer Games play-set or give me death.

Carrion Luggage
Nov 24, 2006

enigmahfc posted:

Give me my Lego Reindeer Games play-set or give me death.

modeled after The Crying Game?

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
Mr Robot Lego set

No wait

Fight Club Lego set for maximum irony appeal

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!

MikeCrotch posted:

Mr Robot Lego set

No wait

Fight Club Lego set for maximum irony appeal

And here we have our Red Revolution sets w Trotsky and Stalin figures. Marx and Lenin too!

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

enigmahfc posted:

Give me my Lego Reindeer Games play-set or give me death.

1000%

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
Lego Hunt For Red October and Lego Das Boot to go with Lego Yellow Submarine.

Clitch
Feb 26, 2002

I lived through
Donald Trump's presidency
and all I got was
this lousy virus
I imagine a Toys R Us as just a bunch of "grown" men fighting over action figures and Amiibos.

red19fire
May 26, 2010

I think the problem was that none of the Lego batman sets had anything to do with movies or comics, and I think they've been relying too much on rare minifigs to sell sets. But I'm also not a Legohead. I would go for a Batman technics set. They made the Chris Nolan Tumbler years ago that's hard to find, and I'd totally shell out for a Tim Burton bat mobile.

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fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Clitch posted:

I imagine a Toys R Us as just a bunch of "grown" men fighting over action figures and Amiibos.

I used to work for that lovely company and you aren't that far off. Half the stores are totally dead 11 months out of the year, including the ones with Babies R Us, save for collectors of random crap. The other stores make like 90% of their money off foreign tourists where it's cheaper for them to buy tons of merchandise and take it back as luggage rather than buy it in their home countries or ship there from websites, particularly to South America.

Seriously, Toys R Us is loving horrific and doesn't deserve a penny from anyone.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
The mainstream Lego craze seems to be more a recent thing. While they were popular enough toys in the 80s/90s, I think with the Lego Batman and Star Wars games and toys about 12 years ago their popularity started to skyrocket with the then-growing geek-chic culture craze that was starting to take root. But they've started to become more reliant on licensed IPs for their sets, too, which can't be good when they have to spend a lot of time trying to come up with sets for movies/etc. without knowing how popular they're going to end up being, either. A film can make a $1B, but that doesn't mean that the toys are going to sell all that well.

Dimensions came out during a time when the market was sort of getting saturated with everything from the continuing hype of amiibo, the long-running Skylanders and Star Wars Disney Infinity to a revival of plastic instrument games vying for shelf space and attention, so I don't think it caught on the way it would have a year or so earlier It also probably can't be good for Lego with the first two major expansion/story sets for the Lego Dimensions game were for films that I don't think really excited the game and movie audiences, either: Ghostbusters 2016 and Fantastic Beasts.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
What happened was Lego's patent expired which is why you saw the rise of similar block toys using the same studs and notches design. This cut into their market share (most alternatives were cheaper, since Lego's quality control is so ridiculous) and they were kinda in trouble until they got the Star Wars license. Licenses and the accompanying video games, cartoons, and so on have helped them and so became a big part of their business model but there are risks.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Sadly there were no licensed Lego toys when I was a kid, because i would have gone nuts for those at the time

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
I'm sort of surprised with all the retro-inspired sets they put out, they never did a Stargate SG-1 set for Dimensions. Granted, it's not got the pop culture nostalgia of Goonies, GB or Gremlins, but the series ran for years and is still on in syndication.

(There is a very cheap looking non-Lego Stargate building block set, though.)

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


FlamingLiberal posted:

Sadly there were no licensed Lego toys when I was a kid, because i would have gone nuts for those at the time

There almost certainly were.

I remember McDonald's licensed Legos when I was a wean back in the early 80s. Like it was a build your own McDonald's Lego kit or something, not from a happy meal, which was still a relatively new invention at the time and didn't come with anything as cool as Legos.

e: digging around, I see they used to do a lot of stuff with actual companies. Exxon gas stations, Shell Oil trucks, Viking and Maersk ships, various real airlines, etc. Though I can't find the McDonald's I remember so clearly.

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Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



ReidRansom posted:

There almost certainly were.

I remember McDonald's licensed Legos when I was a wean back in the early 80s. Like it was a build your own McDonald's Lego kit or something, not from a happy meal, which was still a relatively new invention at the time and didn't come with anything as cool as Legos.

e: digging around, I see they used to do a lot of stuff with actual companies. Exxon gas stations, Shell Oil trucks, Viking and Maersk ships, various real airlines, etc. Though I can't find the McDonald's I remember so clearly.

McDonald's Legos are different than Star Wars Legos. As a kid, my cousin and I would have killed for Star Wars and Superhero Legos.

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


Davros1 posted:

McDonald's Legos are different than Star Wars Legos. As a kid, my cousin and I would have killed for Star Wars and Superhero Legos.

It was a different time. You played with your authentically branded gas station and you liked it, dammit!

Space Robot
Sep 3, 2011

JediTalentAgent posted:

(There is a very cheap looking non-Lego Stargate building block set, though.)

I remember seeing that at Target. I like Stargate, but I can't imagine there are many kids who even know what that show is.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I think Lego's explosion of licensed stuff might have been encouraged by tons of fans on in the internet building replicas of anything and everything out of Lego. Clearly the demand was there.

Though maybe not as much as people think. I think a lot of the Simpsons minifigure blind bags were shelfwarmers.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret
I may have my dates off here, but I want to say Lego first getting the Star Wars license in the late 1990s (It was prior to Episode I coming out, so like 97 or 98) coincided with them coming out of that slump from a few flop lines, like that whole rock-based line I can't remember the name off. Someone did a good write up on it in another thread some time ago...

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer
The lego documentary that as far as I can tell has been removed from Netflix had a pretty good summary of why lego were doing so poorly. IIRC a huge part was because they massively expanded into every market possible, but only the lego sets themselves were making money and everything else turned into a pit you tossed money into. Then they cut everything but the legos and aggressively started selling licensed sets, and causing many a tantrum when a parent wont buy their child a lego Death Star. Maybe that last part was only applicable to me, I'm sure my mom still curses when Lego got the star wars license in the late 90s.


Also Rock Raiders were great and the video game was the poo poo when I was 7 and this is the hill I choose to die on :colbert:

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

fartknocker posted:

I may have my dates off here, but I want to say Lego first getting the Star Wars license in the late 1990s (It was prior to Episode I coming out, so like 97 or 98) coincided with them coming out of that slump from a few flop lines, like that whole rock-based line I can't remember the name off. Someone did a good write up on it in another thread some time ago...

I remember Star Wars legos in the mid 90s, although I guess it's possible 5 year old me thought all spacehips were Star Wars.

Sic Semper Goon
Mar 1, 2015

Eu tu?

:zaurg:

Switchblade Switcharoo

The Moon Monster posted:

I remember Star Wars legos in the mid 90s, although I guess it's possible 5 year old me thought all spacehips were Star Wars.

Nope, they re-released the original trilogy in the mid-nineties.

I remember my brother had a X-wing toy, and seeing the films at the cinema as a child, and I'm 26.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


According to Brickipedia, Lego got its star wars license in 1999.


e: there is a lot of self-loathing lurking inside this post

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Don Gato posted:

The lego documentary that as far as I can tell has been removed from Netflix had a pretty good summary of why lego were doing so poorly. IIRC a huge part was because they massively expanded into every market possible, but only the lego sets themselves were making money and everything else turned into a pit you tossed money into. Then they cut everything but the legos and aggressively started selling licensed sets, and causing many a tantrum when a parent wont buy their child a lego Death Star. Maybe that last part was only applicable to me, I'm sure my mom still curses when Lego got the star wars license in the late 90s.


Also Rock Raiders were great and the video game was the poo poo when I was 7 and this is the hill I choose to die on :colbert:

I loved that game except the drat thing would always crash on this one mission and I could never get any further.

I recall the Time Twisters line which was painfully obvious even to the Inescapable Duckling that it was an attempt to clear out unsold parts.

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