the_steve posted:

I don't even know where to begin with this one.

the_steve posted:

I don't even know where to begin with this one.

Keeshhound posted:

Wait, that's real? I assumed it had to be some kind of parody.

I mean, just to start out with, the Bill of rights is written in language which specifically denies the government powers, rather than granting exceptions to citizens, so no, the 4th amendment does, in fact, still apply.

the_steve posted:

I don't even know where to begin with this one.

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

It's from the ACLU.

TinTower posted:

Code red.

TinTower posted:

Code red.

TinTower posted:

Code red.

Mo_Steel posted:

But... Jack Nicholson is THE BAD GUY in that movie

aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Ragnar34 posted:

Interesting permutation of the "the Empire are the good guys if you think about it" line of thinking. When you're an authoritarian dickbag, some movies must be very confusing.

BalloonFish posted:

It’s not just an American thing, either. Here in the UK we had the case of a Royal Marine shooting a wounded and incapacitated insurgent after a firefight. The helmet-cam recorded the whole thing, including the Marine in question saying, word for word “Well, I just broke the Geneva Convention”. And people were still posting and quoting the Nicholson rant as some sort of excuse.

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

BalloonFish posted:

I really struggle to believe that there are genuinely people out there who watch A Few Good Men and think that it's the tale of a true American hero just doing his job but being thwarted by the know-nothing desk jockeys in Washington. And yet every now and then the evidence bubbles to the surface.

Presumably these people think that Tom Cruise and Demi Moore's characters are just limp liberal crybabies for trying to stop extrajudicial punishment, sanctioned manslaughter and perjury? As if that question needs to be asked...

It's not just an American thing, either. Here in the UK we had the case of a Royal Marine shooting a wounded and incapacitated insurgent after a firefight. The helmet-cam recorded the whole thing, including the Marine in question saying, word for word "Well, I just broke the Geneva Convention". And people were still posting and quoting the Nicholson rant as some sort of excuse.

Defenestration posted:

Extremely Pissed Off Right Wingers

lol kjv

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I guess one more piece of evidence that right wingers do not comprehend the Bible.

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

It's from the ACLU.

Defenestration posted:

Because someone photoshopped me? Because of snapchat filters?

classic girl posted:

I couldn't screenshot it, and apologies if this has already been posted. Making the rounds on FB. A bunch of my friends are teachers (although not in CA) and calling bullshit:

STILL FEEL DACA IS WONDERFUL?

quote:

How to get $75,000 in benefits every year from the US Government for you and your girlfriend?

Follow these proven and simple steps.

First … get a girlfriend… 1. Don’t marry her. 2. Use your mom’s address to receive your mail. 3. The guy buys a house. 4. Guy rents out house to his girl girlfriend who has 2 of his kids. 5. Section 8 will pay $900 a month for a 3 bedroom home. 6. Girlfriend signs up for Obamacare so guy doesn’t have to pay for family insurance. 7. Being a single mother, Girlfriend gets to go to college for free! 8. Girlfriend gets $600 a month for food stamps 9. Girlfriend gets free cell phone from US Government 10. Girlfriend get free utilities. 11. Guy moves into home but still uses mom’s house to receive mail. 12. Girlfriend claims one kid and guy claims one kid on taxes. Now you both get to claim head of household at $1,800 credit. 13. Girlfriend gets disability for being “crazy” or having a “bad back” at $1,800 a month and never has to work again. This plan is perfectly legal and is being executed now by millions of people.

A married couple with a stay at home mom yields $0 dollars. An unmarried couple with stay at home mom nets $21,600 disability + $10,800 free housing + $6,000 free obamacare + $6,000 free food + $4,800 free utilities + $6,000 Pell Grant money to spend + $12,000 a year in college tuition free from Pell Grant + $8,800 tax benefit for being a single mother = $75,000 a year in benefits.

Any idea why the country is 18 + trillion in debt?

Welcome to the new multicultural diverse, fundamentally changed America, thanks to the ever popular and exciting, everyone is entitled to everything world.

classic girl posted:

I couldn't screenshot it, and apologies if this has already been posted. Making the rounds on FB. A bunch of my friends are teachers (although not in CA) and calling bullshit:

STILL FEEL DACA IS WONDERFUL?

From a California school teacher.....
As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of: I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title-1 school, meaning that its students average in the lower socio-economic and income levels.
Most of the schools you are hearing about are South Gate High, Bell Gardens, Huntington Park, etc., where their students are protesting – these are also Title-1 schools.
Title-1 schools are on the free-breakfast and free-lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking about a glass of milk and a roll ... But a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make the Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. (Our tax dollars at work!)
I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight. About 75% or more have cell phones. The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids. (More of our tax dollars at work!)
I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department, or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything. My budget was already substantial, but I ended up buying new computers for the Computer Learning Center, half of which, one month later, were carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America. (More and more of our tax dollars at work!)
I have had to intervene several times for young substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less than 3 months, who raised so much hell with the female teachers, calling them putas (whores ) and throwing things, that the teachers were in tears.
Free medical care, free education, free food, free day care, etc., etc., etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled not only to be in this country, but also to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?
To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society, because they happen to like their gardener and/or housekeeper, and they like to pay less for tomatoes, I say: Spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the true costs.
Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases, etc., etc., etc. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.
America, we need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it. Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?
It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by age 15, and that refuses to assimilate, plus an American culture that has become so weak and worried about "political correctness," that we don't have the will to do anything about it.
If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to everyone you know including your Congressman and Senators.
Cheap labor? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?
Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage. Consumers don't want expensive produce.
Government will tell you 'Americans don't want the jobs.' But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth, a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheap labor."
Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for $5.00 or $6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an income tax return, he gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200, free.
Also....
1. He qualifies for Section-8 housing and subsidized rent;
2. He qualifies for food stamps;
3. He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care;
4. His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school;
5. He requires bilingual teachers and books;
6. He qualifies for relief from high energy bills;
7. If they are, or become aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI;
8. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare (All of this at taxpayer's {our} expense);
9. He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance;
10. Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material;
11. He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits;
12. Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his;
13. The American taxpayers also pays for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.
CHEAP LABOR??? Yeah right! Wake up people!

toanoradian posted:

I want a thorough debunking for these, or at least the numbered parts. Some just sound ridiculous: illegal aliens don't have to worry about insurance? They don't have to worry about rent? They get free health care??

Also the concern about taxpayer money being used for Spanish signs is ludicrous, as if those will only ever be useful for illegal aliens and not, like, Spanish-speaking Americans.

toanoradian posted:

I want a thorough debunking for these, or at least the numbered parts. Some just sound ridiculous: illegal aliens don't have to worry about insurance? They don't have to worry about rent? They get free health care??

Also the concern about taxpayer money being used for Spanish signs is ludicrous, as if those will only ever be useful for illegal aliens and not, like, Spanish-speaking Americans.

quote:

Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for $5.00 or $6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an income tax return, he gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200, free.

quote:

Also....
1. He qualifies for Section-8 housing and subsidized rent;
2. He qualifies for food stamps;
3. He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care;
4. His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school;
5. He requires bilingual teachers and books;
6. He qualifies for relief from high energy bills;
7. If they are, or become aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI;
8. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare (All of this at taxpayer's {our} expense);
9. He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance;
10. Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material;
11. He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits;
12. Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his;
13. The American taxpayers also pays for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.
CHEAP LABOR??? Yeah right! Wake up people!

John Henry Miller posted:

Day laborers can make between $45,000 and $56,000 per year, easily and tax free. This is while illegal immigrants receive 4.2 Billion (yes Billion!) dollars in free tax credits.

People need to pay their fair share and stop exploiting the American worker.

the_steve posted:

I don't even know where to begin with this one.

Dejawesp posted:

The constitution doesn't give the government rights. It doesn't even give people rights. It puts restrictions on the government to prevent it from infringing on rights that the founding fathers considered inherent to all humans.

Dirk the Average posted:

Most people either never take or never internalize calculus, so the concept of marginal tax rates isn't something they really understand.

Let's take a hypothetical tax system:

Tax on income up to $50,000 is 0%
Tax on $50,001-$70,000 is 20%
Tax on $70,001-$100,000 is 30%

Let's say you make $70,000.

Your tax bill is then $50,000 * 0.0 + $20,000 * 0.2

Now let's say you make $70,001

Your tax bill is now $50,000 * 0 + $20,000 * 0.2 + $1 * 0.3

The additional dollar made in the higher tax bracket is taxed at the rate of the higher tax bracket, but all previous income is taxed at its respective lower tax brackets.

The only time you can lose overall money from getting a raise (barring tax fuckery if you're ultra-rich), is if you somehow lose more benefits than the money that you gain, but I am not experienced enough with low income benefits to understand if that's an actual concern or not.