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her current costume looks way better than that tube top/crop top idea sounds, tbh.
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ive probably posted it before in the manga thread but i really want momo to come up with a supermove of creating an entire set of like eod-level armor around her in one go at some point
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Sep 10, 2017 23:40
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Tollymain posted:ive probably posted it before in the manga thread but i really want momo to come up with a supermove of creating an entire set of like eod-level armor around her in one go at some point
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Sep 10, 2017 23:47
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Fabricated posted:I don't really care. Like at all honestly. it's not necessarily going to put most people off the series entirely but it's just a thing that is lame and we can all collectively hope that someday we can move beyond weak-effort "fan service" shots hth
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Sep 11, 2017 00:05
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ill gladly watch mt lady fling her big rear end around all day but it's incredibly lame when horikoshi does it to his like six or so teenage characters and making mineta his creator's pet to get horny over fifteen year olds is like the only very bad thing about this series imo and fitting to discuss in this, the thread for the my hero academia animation.
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Sep 11, 2017 00:13
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oh no is the fan service part that's coming up next season bad
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Sep 11, 2017 00:26
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grieving for Gandalf posted:oh no is the fan service part that's coming up next season bad you say it as if there's only 1 part
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Sep 11, 2017 00:29
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let's just say Kirishima won't be the only one who's Hardening
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Kild posted:you say it as if there's only 1 part grieving for Gandalf posted:oh no is the fan service part that's coming up next season bad Kaubocks posted:it's not necessarily going to put most people off the series entirely but it's just a thing that is lame and we can all collectively hope that someday we can move beyond weak-effort "fan service" shots Moltrey posted:ill gladly watch mt lady fling her big rear end around all day but it's incredibly lame when horikoshi does it to his like six or so teenage characters and making mineta his creator's pet to get horny over fifteen year olds is like the only very bad thing about this series imo and fitting to discuss in this, the thread for the my hero academia animation.
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Sep 11, 2017 00:34
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Re: boobs, I know it doesn't make it better at all but the target audience for this show is the same age or younger than Yaoyorozu and they really like boobs. Citation: [Myself at 13.] The real culprit for this sort of thing is of course Horikoshi's unquenchable thirst for boobs, but I'm sure sales play a part in the direction more than just creeping on children. But at least the anime promoters knows who their true fans are. My girlfriend picked up an otome anime mag yesterday and I was pleased to see that it came with a double page poster of the Aizawa fight. Featuring close-ups of Aizawa and Todoroki with Momo all tiny in the background.
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Sep 11, 2017 00:37
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Fabricated posted:I get you but man, comparing MHA to say Yuuna/Souma/Black Clover/etc I feel kinda blessed it has all been as tame as it has. Like, Horikoshi isn't going back to add nipples to full-frontal shots in his volumes is all I'm saying- like the mangaka that does Yuuna. why would you compare MHA and Black Clover to literal ecchi series tho, of course they're tame in comparison.
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dogsicle posted:why would you compare MHA and Black Clover to literal ecchi series tho, of course they're tame in comparison.
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Sep 11, 2017 00:41
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Fabricated posted:I don't really care. Like at all honestly. Yep, that's how it works, when you like something and point out there are bad parts it means you're going to drop it. You nailed it dude. Since you couldn't see it I went through the episode again. These three shots had no reason to have the focus that they did. This being animation, I hope you understand that this isn't something like an unfortunate camera angle. It's something that was deliberately set up and presented this way. It could have been presented differently, but it wasn't, and that's because someone made a choice.
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Sep 11, 2017 00:53
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MHA is better than many of its contemporaries about fanservice but it's also worse than some of its contemporaries about it too. So I don't know if comparing it to other jump series is the best argument. The series is in WSJ where fanservice is common so it's not much of a surprise it has some but that doesn't stop it from being pretty lame. Especially since Momo isn't even the first character with a quirk that makes them wear a sexy costume for the readers to look at.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Especially since Momo isn't even the first character with a quirk that makes them wear a sexy costume for the readers to look at. At least her quirk lets her wear a costume at all!
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Sep 11, 2017 01:01
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I honestly don't even mind it when it's a lewd joke or something like most of Mineta's scenes. They aren't great but they are at least self-aware enough about how bad and creepy they are that they get a pass. But the last episode had these shots randomly throughout scenes with high emotional/narrative stakes. That's when the show asks that you take the fanservice shots seriously, and that is a significantly different thing from anything else.
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Sep 11, 2017 01:01
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yeah its kinda dumb that they did that
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Sep 11, 2017 01:04
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Dramatic emotional development... with boobs
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Sep 11, 2017 01:07
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YF-23 posted:Yep, that's how it works, when you like something and point out there are bad parts it means you're going to drop it. You nailed it dude.
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Sep 11, 2017 02:18
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the boob one while momo jogs is definitely weird, but if i had to care about shots like the other two (read: any pan-up involving a character with breasts) i would go insane.
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Sep 11, 2017 02:35
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Man you guys are making a way bigger deal about this then you need to.
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Sep 11, 2017 03:12
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We can only talk about how good the episodes are for so long. When the series is this good, the flaws like that stand out that much more.
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Sep 11, 2017 03:26
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PMush Perfect posted:We can only talk about how good the episodes are for so long. This is not even a flaw it's just some fanservice.
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Sep 11, 2017 03:37
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MonsterEnvy posted:This is not even a flaw it's just some fanservice.
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Sep 11, 2017 03:50
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Fabricated posted:I can only think of one scene really if the next season covers the two big arcs. Spoilers: The Mineta Scene and the Mei scene and possibly the Toga scene
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Sep 11, 2017 04:49
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I typically just ignore fanservice, but that shot of Tsuyu post-stomach trick bothered me. Could have drawn it any other way, and they went with what we got. Just creepy.
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Sep 11, 2017 05:16
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MHA anime: in which we focus on boobs longer than the episode did edit: Maybe momo can better direct and control extruded things from her torso rather than her arms (could limit use of both hands) or legs (has to bend or crouch to access created item)? Zetsubou-san fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Sep 11, 2017 |
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Sep 11, 2017 05:18
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MonsterEnvy posted:Man you guys are making a way bigger deal about this then you need to. it's almost like this has been a lame issue for a long time and when it shows up in an otherwise extremely good thing it kinda blows, not necessarily because it retroactively makes the whole thing bad but because it makes it slightly harder to recommend to others and it's a thing we should all be better about as a whole to begin with it's ok to wish a show you like treated its female characters with slightly more respect EDIT: like, there are good moments to be had where momo deals with a kind of blow to her self-worth when her internship was largely given because of her looks. there's some characterization to be had there as it comes to a front in the most recent episode where you can see she struggles with it. then the camera's just like "woah look at these tits" while she runs which is a real tonal shift from the scene when they could have drawn like literally anything else. Kaubocks fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Sep 11, 2017 |
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Sep 11, 2017 06:01
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tbh outside of boobshots i think mha treats its female cast better than a lot of things i can think of
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Sep 11, 2017 06:08
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The Colonel posted:tbh outside of boobshots i think mha treats its female cast better than a lot of things i can think of yea for sure, honestly just dump mineta and stop being a weirdo with the camera once every handful of episodes and that's genuinely my biggest complaint gone at that point all i've really got against it is "the pacing in season 1 is bad"
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Sep 11, 2017 06:11
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As much as this is Horikoshi's fault for designing her outfit this way, he probably didn't have a say in how the scenes were directed, so I'm willing to chalk it up to someone at Bones loving it up. It was unnecessary and gratuitous fanservice and kind of undermined the actual story going on, but that's all that can be said on the matter. I get it is important to call these things out when they happen, but I dunno what we're exactly supposed to do otherwise on here besides all nod in agreement that it was bad with a few devil's advocates that go "no, underage boobs are actually good" and then someone brings up Mineta and the discussion just gets more toxic, because he's a bad character. He also gets poo poo on all of the time for his lovely behavior, but yeah, I get it.
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PMush Perfect posted:"Focusing the camera on a teenager's boobs isn't a flaw." - MonsterEnvy It's not a flaw, lets not forget this show is intended for Teens to begin with. And it seems the main complaint is that Momo is young when she is supposed to be around the same age as the intended audience. It's just the show happens to be very good and hit above it's age group. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Sep 11, 2017 |
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Sep 11, 2017 06:52
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MonsterEnvy posted:It's not a flaw, lets not forget this show is intended for Teens to begin with. And it seems the main complaint is that Momo is young when she is supposed to be around the same age as the intended audience. It's just the show happens to be very good and hit above it's age group. It's a flaw
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Sep 11, 2017 07:08
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Yeah, it's Bones, boobshots of teenagers is kind of par for the course for them. Doesn't mean I have to like it, though.
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Sep 11, 2017 07:27
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bones staffs a variety of directors with different styles blood blockade battlefront was directed by a lady and she went as far as changing stuff to make it appeal to women more so i don't think bones as a studio demands boob shots
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Sep 11, 2017 07:57
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looking back on their lineup in general I'm not sure what you're talking about unless mob psycho was way hornier than I'd been led to believe
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Sep 11, 2017 08:09
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Or maybe I could be a half-asleep idiot and mentally mix up Bones and Trigger.
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Sep 11, 2017 08:15
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MonsterEnvy posted:It's not a flaw, lets not forget this show is intended for Teens to begin with. And it seems the main complaint is that Momo is young when she is supposed to be around the same age as the intended audience. It's just the show happens to be very good and hit above it's age group. That's my take as well. It doesn't sit well with me that a show aimed at teenagers should make changes specifically because there are creepy adults out there. That said, I agree that, thematically, inserting fanservice shots of Momo in a part of the story about regaining her self-worth after her internship couldn't be more awfully timed.
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Sep 11, 2017 08:23
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PMush Perfect posted:Or maybe I could be a half-asleep idiot and mentally mix up Bones and Trigger.
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